Differential Lubricant
02-04-2004, 01:16 PM
#41
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Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
Ok. That's kinda what I thought might be the case. But I would
definitely have been leary to just ignore using the friction modifier
without people posting here who have more expertise in that area. ;-)
Bill, you said something about that the additive makes it so the diff
will SLIP...does that mean that without the modifier a clutch-pack LSD
would bind up and no longer slip in differential action anymore? I've
always wondered what exactly the modifier did and what the
consequences of forgetting to use it might be...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40200849.488432B6@***.net>...
> Hi Bob,
> Except, the only reason for the friction modifier is to make the
> disks slip, and as you have said there are none:
> http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg I'm waiting with baited breath for
> JD's response from his owner's manual. My Factory Service Manual for '03
> only asks for it in the Trac-Loc:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf I says nothing about the
> Tru-Lok explained further in the book with no reference to fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. The rubicon also has a limited slip in the rear. Barring
> > any special need due to the lockers (I can't speak yes or no to that),
> > it is likely the limited slip may require a special additive, much
> > like my rear D44 w/limited slip does. It may not, since it uses a
> > different kind of limited slip (no clutch packs?) than mine, but I
> > would want some definitive answers on that before just throwing
> > regular gear oil in there and calling it done.
definitely have been leary to just ignore using the friction modifier
without people posting here who have more expertise in that area. ;-)
Bill, you said something about that the additive makes it so the diff
will SLIP...does that mean that without the modifier a clutch-pack LSD
would bind up and no longer slip in differential action anymore? I've
always wondered what exactly the modifier did and what the
consequences of forgetting to use it might be...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40200849.488432B6@***.net>...
> Hi Bob,
> Except, the only reason for the friction modifier is to make the
> disks slip, and as you have said there are none:
> http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg I'm waiting with baited breath for
> JD's response from his owner's manual. My Factory Service Manual for '03
> only asks for it in the Trac-Loc:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf I says nothing about the
> Tru-Lok explained further in the book with no reference to fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. The rubicon also has a limited slip in the rear. Barring
> > any special need due to the lockers (I can't speak yes or no to that),
> > it is likely the limited slip may require a special additive, much
> > like my rear D44 w/limited slip does. It may not, since it uses a
> > different kind of limited slip (no clutch packs?) than mine, but I
> > would want some definitive answers on that before just throwing
> > regular gear oil in there and calling it done.
02-04-2004, 01:16 PM
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
Ok. That's kinda what I thought might be the case. But I would
definitely have been leary to just ignore using the friction modifier
without people posting here who have more expertise in that area. ;-)
Bill, you said something about that the additive makes it so the diff
will SLIP...does that mean that without the modifier a clutch-pack LSD
would bind up and no longer slip in differential action anymore? I've
always wondered what exactly the modifier did and what the
consequences of forgetting to use it might be...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40200849.488432B6@***.net>...
> Hi Bob,
> Except, the only reason for the friction modifier is to make the
> disks slip, and as you have said there are none:
> http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg I'm waiting with baited breath for
> JD's response from his owner's manual. My Factory Service Manual for '03
> only asks for it in the Trac-Loc:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf I says nothing about the
> Tru-Lok explained further in the book with no reference to fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. The rubicon also has a limited slip in the rear. Barring
> > any special need due to the lockers (I can't speak yes or no to that),
> > it is likely the limited slip may require a special additive, much
> > like my rear D44 w/limited slip does. It may not, since it uses a
> > different kind of limited slip (no clutch packs?) than mine, but I
> > would want some definitive answers on that before just throwing
> > regular gear oil in there and calling it done.
definitely have been leary to just ignore using the friction modifier
without people posting here who have more expertise in that area. ;-)
Bill, you said something about that the additive makes it so the diff
will SLIP...does that mean that without the modifier a clutch-pack LSD
would bind up and no longer slip in differential action anymore? I've
always wondered what exactly the modifier did and what the
consequences of forgetting to use it might be...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40200849.488432B6@***.net>...
> Hi Bob,
> Except, the only reason for the friction modifier is to make the
> disks slip, and as you have said there are none:
> http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg I'm waiting with baited breath for
> JD's response from his owner's manual. My Factory Service Manual for '03
> only asks for it in the Trac-Loc:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf I says nothing about the
> Tru-Lok explained further in the book with no reference to fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. The rubicon also has a limited slip in the rear. Barring
> > any special need due to the lockers (I can't speak yes or no to that),
> > it is likely the limited slip may require a special additive, much
> > like my rear D44 w/limited slip does. It may not, since it uses a
> > different kind of limited slip (no clutch packs?) than mine, but I
> > would want some definitive answers on that before just throwing
> > regular gear oil in there and calling it done.
02-04-2004, 01:16 PM
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
Ok. That's kinda what I thought might be the case. But I would
definitely have been leary to just ignore using the friction modifier
without people posting here who have more expertise in that area. ;-)
Bill, you said something about that the additive makes it so the diff
will SLIP...does that mean that without the modifier a clutch-pack LSD
would bind up and no longer slip in differential action anymore? I've
always wondered what exactly the modifier did and what the
consequences of forgetting to use it might be...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40200849.488432B6@***.net>...
> Hi Bob,
> Except, the only reason for the friction modifier is to make the
> disks slip, and as you have said there are none:
> http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg I'm waiting with baited breath for
> JD's response from his owner's manual. My Factory Service Manual for '03
> only asks for it in the Trac-Loc:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf I says nothing about the
> Tru-Lok explained further in the book with no reference to fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. The rubicon also has a limited slip in the rear. Barring
> > any special need due to the lockers (I can't speak yes or no to that),
> > it is likely the limited slip may require a special additive, much
> > like my rear D44 w/limited slip does. It may not, since it uses a
> > different kind of limited slip (no clutch packs?) than mine, but I
> > would want some definitive answers on that before just throwing
> > regular gear oil in there and calling it done.
definitely have been leary to just ignore using the friction modifier
without people posting here who have more expertise in that area. ;-)
Bill, you said something about that the additive makes it so the diff
will SLIP...does that mean that without the modifier a clutch-pack LSD
would bind up and no longer slip in differential action anymore? I've
always wondered what exactly the modifier did and what the
consequences of forgetting to use it might be...
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<40200849.488432B6@***.net>...
> Hi Bob,
> Except, the only reason for the friction modifier is to make the
> disks slip, and as you have said there are none:
> http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg I'm waiting with baited breath for
> JD's response from his owner's manual. My Factory Service Manual for '03
> only asks for it in the Trac-Loc:
> http://www.----------.com/lubeschedule.pdf I says nothing about the
> Tru-Lok explained further in the book with no reference to fluid.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Bob wrote:
> >
> > I disagree. The rubicon also has a limited slip in the rear. Barring
> > any special need due to the lockers (I can't speak yes or no to that),
> > it is likely the limited slip may require a special additive, much
> > like my rear D44 w/limited slip does. It may not, since it uses a
> > different kind of limited slip (no clutch packs?) than mine, but I
> > would want some definitive answers on that before just throwing
> > regular gear oil in there and calling it done.
02-04-2004, 04:38 PM
#44
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Re: Differential Lubricant
Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip lubricant
is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster was
concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap. There
is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
have
> a
> > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
>
> The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And so
> far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive or
> special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the clutch-based
> Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
the
> need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I can't
> > > remember
> > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special lubricant
> > > because of the Lockers.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip lubricant
is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster was
concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap. There
is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
have
> a
> > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
>
> The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And so
> far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive or
> special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the clutch-based
> Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
the
> need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I can't
> > > remember
> > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special lubricant
> > > because of the Lockers.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
02-04-2004, 04:38 PM
#45
Guest
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Re: Differential Lubricant
Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip lubricant
is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster was
concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap. There
is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
have
> a
> > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
>
> The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And so
> far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive or
> special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the clutch-based
> Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
the
> need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I can't
> > > remember
> > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special lubricant
> > > because of the Lockers.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip lubricant
is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster was
concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap. There
is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
have
> a
> > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
>
> The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And so
> far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive or
> special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the clutch-based
> Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
the
> need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I can't
> > > remember
> > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special lubricant
> > > because of the Lockers.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
02-04-2004, 04:38 PM
#46
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip lubricant
is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster was
concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap. There
is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
have
> a
> > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
>
> The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And so
> far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive or
> special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the clutch-based
> Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
the
> need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I can't
> > > remember
> > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special lubricant
> > > because of the Lockers.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip lubricant
is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster was
concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap. There
is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
have
> a
> > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
>
> The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And so
> far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive or
> special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the clutch-based
> Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
the
> need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I can't
> > > remember
> > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > >
> > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special lubricant
> > > because of the Lockers.
> > >
> > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
02-04-2004, 06:35 PM
#47
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Re: Differential Lubricant
Jerry, I think I just ranted at you the same way I rant at Bill after he
nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
>
> But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
> lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
> even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
> lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
lubricant
> is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
> is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
> which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
was
> concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
> slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
> limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
> do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
There
> is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> have
> > a
> > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> >
> > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
so
> > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive
or
> > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
clutch-based
> > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
> the
> > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
can't
> > > > remember
> > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
lubricant
> > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
>
> But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
> lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
> even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
> lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
lubricant
> is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
> is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
> which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
was
> concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
> slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
> limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
> do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
There
> is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> have
> > a
> > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> >
> > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
so
> > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive
or
> > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
clutch-based
> > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
> the
> > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
can't
> > > > remember
> > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
lubricant
> > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
02-04-2004, 06:35 PM
#48
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
Jerry, I think I just ranted at you the same way I rant at Bill after he
nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
>
> But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
> lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
> even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
> lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
lubricant
> is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
> is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
> which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
was
> concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
> slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
> limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
> do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
There
> is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> have
> > a
> > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> >
> > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
so
> > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive
or
> > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
clutch-based
> > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
> the
> > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
can't
> > > > remember
> > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
lubricant
> > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
>
> But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
> lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
> even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
> lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
lubricant
> is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
> is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
> which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
was
> concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
> slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
> limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
> do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
There
> is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> have
> > a
> > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> >
> > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
so
> > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive
or
> > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
clutch-based
> > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
> the
> > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
can't
> > > > remember
> > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
lubricant
> > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
02-04-2004, 06:35 PM
#49
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
Jerry, I think I just ranted at you the same way I rant at Bill after he
nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
>
> But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
> lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
> even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
> lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
lubricant
> is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
> is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
> which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
was
> concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
> slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
> limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
> do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
There
> is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> have
> > a
> > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> >
> > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
so
> > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive
or
> > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
clutch-based
> > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
> the
> > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
can't
> > > > remember
> > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
lubricant
> > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
>
> But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any special
> lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip. So,
> even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a special
> lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
lubricant
> is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that there
> is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the locker,
> which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
was
> concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the limited
> slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the clutch-based
> limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants to
> do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
There
> is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> have
> > a
> > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> >
> > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
so
> > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of additive
or
> > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know about
> > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
clutch-based
> > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may indicate
> the
> > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
can't
> > > > remember
> > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > >
> > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
lubricant
> > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > >
> > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
02-04-2004, 08:34 PM
#50
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Differential Lubricant
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10230flcenbpc4d@corp.supernews.com...
> Jerry, I think I just ranted at you the same way I rant at Bill after he
> nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
Heh, I know you too well Jeff to have considered it a real rant anyway. :)
Hey, are you going to TDS? I think I might be going with a group from the
JeepForum.com group and it'd be great to wheel with you. I'm thinking of
doing Pumpkin Eater this year for grins.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> > Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
> >
> > But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any
special
> > lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> > slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip.
So,
> > even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a
special
> > lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
> lubricant
> > is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that
there
> > is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the
locker,
> > which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
> was
> > concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the
limited
> > slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the
clutch-based
> > limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> > gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants
to
> > do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
> There
> > is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> > have
> > > a
> > > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> > >
> > > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
> so
> > > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of
additive
> or
> > > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know
about
> > > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
> clutch-based
> > > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may
indicate
> > the
> > > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
> can't
> > > > > remember
> > > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
> lubricant
> > > > > because of the Lockers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
news:10230flcenbpc4d@corp.supernews.com...
> Jerry, I think I just ranted at you the same way I rant at Bill after he
> nit-picks an irrelevant bit of minutia.
Heh, I know you too well Jeff to have considered it a real rant anyway. :)
Hey, are you going to TDS? I think I might be going with a group from the
JeepForum.com group and it'd be great to wheel with you. I'm thinking of
doing Pumpkin Eater this year for grins.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
N6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
> "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1022pkaols79m16@corp.supernews.com...
> > Yeah, I remembered that right after I hit the Send button.
> >
> > But, the point is still the same, the locker does not require any
special
> > lubrication, and the lubricant that we normally would put into a limited
> > slip with clutches will work just fine in the gear based limited slip.
So,
> > even though I was technically incorrect when I said it requires a
special
> > lubricant for the limited slip, the fact is that the limited slip
> lubricant
> > is readily available in any auto parts store. And, it turns out that
there
> > is no demand for special lubricant for the limited slip or for the
locker,
> > which is pretty much what I already said. Remember, the original poster
> was
> > concerned that he needed special lubricant for the LOCKER, not the
limited
> > slip. It might cost a little more for the lubricant that the
clutch-based
> > limited slip needs, but this lubricant ought not be a problem for the
> > gear-based limited slip that the Rubicon has. The original poster wants
to
> > do the job himself, but the dealer is filling him with a load of crap.
> There
> > is no reason the original poster can not do this job himself.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
> > news:WZXTb.9564$1O.6101@fed1read05...
> > > "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1020blv6726h6dc@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > It does not require anything special because of the lockers, it does
> > have
> > > a
> > > > requirement for special lubricant for the limited slip though.
> > >
> > > The Rubicon's limited slip is gear-based Jeff, like the Truetrac. And
> so
> > > far as I know, like the Truetrac, it does not need any kind of
additive
> or
> > > special lubricant. Some know-nothing tech-writer (ahem, you know
about
> > > those guys ;) ) within Jeep may think it does because of the
> clutch-based
> > > Tracloc used in other Jeep models, so some Jeep publication may
indicate
> > the
> > > need but all indications say it takes straight GL-5 or GL-6. :)
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Ice" <jicegood@rogers.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:JRCTb.137766$fgk.79223@news01.bloor.is.net.ca ble.rogers.com...
> > > > > Sorry to repeat a question. I think this came up recently, but I
> can't
> > > > > remember
> > > > > the answer and was unable to find the post.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a 2003 Jeep Rubicon and it's time to change the axle fluid.
> > > > > I want to do it myself. The dealer says it requires special
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> > > > > Can someone tell me what I can by aftermarket that is equivalent?
> > > > > Thanks
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