Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
rear.
I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
cost-effective.
And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
Just my $0.02.
/Bob
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My plan
> is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the rear
> D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> front?
>
> Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is sure
> to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
rear.
I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
cost-effective.
And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
Just my $0.02.
/Bob
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My plan
> is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the rear
> D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> front?
>
> Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is sure
> to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
rear.
I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
cost-effective.
And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
Just my $0.02.
/Bob
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My plan
> is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the rear
> D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> front?
>
> Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is sure
> to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
rear.
I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
cost-effective.
And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
Just my $0.02.
/Bob
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My plan
> is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the rear
> D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> front?
>
> Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is sure
> to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
rear.
I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
cost-effective.
And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
Just my $0.02.
/Bob
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My plan
> is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the rear
> D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> front?
>
> Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is sure
> to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
rear.
I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
cost-effective.
And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
Just my $0.02.
/Bob
"Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My plan
> is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the rear
> D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> front?
>
> Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is sure
> to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
it unloads.
Tony
"Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> rear.
>
> I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> cost-effective.
>
> And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
>
> Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> /Bob
>
> "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
plan
> > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
rear
> > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > front?
> >
> > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
sure
> > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tony
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
Real Jeeps run 5.38s with 32" tires.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tony M wrote:
>
> I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
> think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
> 31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
>
> I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
> daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
> street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
> it unloads.
>
> Tony
>
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> > I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> > my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> > rear.
> >
> > I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> > about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> > different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> > front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> > rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> > the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> > anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> > all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> > need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> > from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> > Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> > proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> > cost-effective.
> >
> > And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> > front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> > stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> > in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> > move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
> >
> > Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> > someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> > know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> > labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
> news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
> plan
> > > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
> rear
> > > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > > front?
> > >
> > > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
> sure
> > > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tony M wrote:
>
> I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
> think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
> 31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
>
> I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
> daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
> street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
> it unloads.
>
> Tony
>
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> > I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> > my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> > rear.
> >
> > I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> > about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> > different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> > front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> > rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> > the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> > anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> > all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> > need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> > from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> > Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> > proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> > cost-effective.
> >
> > And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> > front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> > stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> > in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> > move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
> >
> > Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> > someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> > know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> > labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
> news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
> plan
> > > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
> rear
> > > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > > front?
> > >
> > > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
> sure
> > > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
Real Jeeps run 5.38s with 32" tires.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tony M wrote:
>
> I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
> think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
> 31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
>
> I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
> daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
> street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
> it unloads.
>
> Tony
>
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> > I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> > my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> > rear.
> >
> > I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> > about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> > different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> > front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> > rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> > the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> > anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> > all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> > need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> > from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> > Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> > proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> > cost-effective.
> >
> > And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> > front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> > stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> > in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> > move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
> >
> > Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> > someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> > know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> > labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
> news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
> plan
> > > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
> rear
> > > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > > front?
> > >
> > > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
> sure
> > > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tony M wrote:
>
> I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
> think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
> 31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
>
> I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
> daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
> street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
> it unloads.
>
> Tony
>
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> > I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> > my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> > rear.
> >
> > I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> > about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> > different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> > front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> > rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> > the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> > anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> > all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> > need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> > from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> > Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> > proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> > cost-effective.
> >
> > And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> > front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> > stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> > in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> > move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
> >
> > Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> > someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> > know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> > labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
> news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
> plan
> > > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
> rear
> > > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > > front?
> > >
> > > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
> sure
> > > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diff upgrade for '00 TJ
Real Jeeps run 5.38s with 32" tires.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tony M wrote:
>
> I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
> think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
> 31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
>
> I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
> daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
> street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
> it unloads.
>
> Tony
>
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> > I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> > my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> > rear.
> >
> > I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> > about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> > different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> > front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> > rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> > the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> > anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> > all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> > need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> > from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> > Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> > proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> > cost-effective.
> >
> > And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> > front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> > stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> > in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> > move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
> >
> > Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> > someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> > know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> > labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
> news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
> plan
> > > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
> rear
> > > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > > front?
> > >
> > > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
> sure
> > > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Tony M wrote:
>
> I haven't had anything done with the gears. I have 3.73 from the factory (I
> think). Do the gears have to be changed with a locker? I have new BFG AT
> 31" now, and they work really well with this ratio.
>
> I'm really looking for a cost-effective way to get lockers, and still have a
> daily driver. I've heard a locker in front wouldn't affect driving on the
> street, but a locker in the back would be noticeable around corners and when
> it unloads.
>
> Tony
>
> "Bob" <magicclaw@mac.com> wrote in message
> news:47b769ae.0405210606.7059adc4@posting.google.c om...
> > I once thought that would be cool, too. But that was because I wanted
> > my rear D44 up front and to put something like a Ford 9-inch in the
> > rear.
> >
> > I think the amount of work (if it is even possible) you're talking
> > about is more than its worth. Also, I'm pretty sure the axle tubes are
> > different sized, as well (in diameter). So you couldn't reuse the
> > front tubes with the 44 pumpkin. And you can use the tubes from the
> > rear, since the rear pumpkin is centered and the front is offset on
> > the driver-side. So you'd have to source some front D44 axle tubes,
> > anyway. And unless you got some out of a TJ, you'd also have to get
> > all the suspension mounts, etc. welded onto those tubes. You'd also
> > need to buy new D44 front axleshafts, as well (or again, find some
> > from a TJ with a front D44, which resricts you to either a junked
> > Rubicon or a custom built front D44 from another TJ.) What you're
> > proposing is just a huge can of worms, and I can't see how it would be
> > cost-effective.
> >
> > And, in your case, I especially would not do this. If you want a D44
> > front AND rear, and you already have one in the rear, you'd probably
> > stand a chance of getting away CHEAPER with getting a locker installed
> > in the rear, and buying a 44 for the front. Don't mess with trying to
> > move a perfectly fine rear 44 around.
> >
> > Do you already have the gears done? If not, you're gonna have to pay
> > someone to crack open that 44 and change out the gears (unless you
> > know how to do it yourself), anyway, and it costs nothing more in
> > labor to get a locker dropped in at the same time.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > "Tony M" <reddog01@metacrawler.com> wrote in message
> news:<7Bgrc.7429$dq4.339@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>...
> > > I have the factory D44 lsd in back and would like to get a locker. My
> plan
> > > is, if possible, to get a new D44 in back with a locker, and put the
> rear
> > > D44 I have now up front. Can a rear differential be made to work in the
> > > front?
> > >
> > > Ideal situation: 2 D44 electracs or air-actuated lockers, but that is
> sure
> > > to get a little pricy. Any diff upgrade suggestions are appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tony