Diesel Conversion for Wrangler
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Re: Diesel Conversion for Wrangler
Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
the old Buick design.
Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
a 90
> > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
the
> > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
crank
> > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
the
> > imagination.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
the
> > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
made
> > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
lost
> > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > crankshaft."
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
are
> > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
degree
> > even
> > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > reference.
> > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > --
> > > > jeff (the other one)
and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
the old Buick design.
Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
a 90
> > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
the
> > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
crank
> > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
the
> > imagination.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
the
> > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
made
> > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
lost
> > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > crankshaft."
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
are
> > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
degree
> > even
> > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > reference.
> > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > --
> > > > jeff (the other one)
#132
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Re: Diesel Conversion for Wrangler
Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
the old Buick design.
Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
a 90
> > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
the
> > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
crank
> > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
the
> > imagination.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
the
> > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
made
> > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
lost
> > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > crankshaft."
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
are
> > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
degree
> > even
> > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > reference.
> > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > --
> > > > jeff (the other one)
and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
the old Buick design.
Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
a 90
> > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
the
> > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
crank
> > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
the
> > imagination.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
the
> > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
made
> > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
lost
> > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > crankshaft."
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
are
> > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
degree
> > even
> > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > reference.
> > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > --
> > > > jeff (the other one)
#133
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Re: Diesel Conversion for Wrangler
Bill: You have been insisting that there are not odd-fire Chevy V6 engines
and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
the old Buick design.
Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
a 90
> > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
the
> > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
crank
> > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
the
> > imagination.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
the
> > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
made
> > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
lost
> > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > crankshaft."
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
are
> > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
degree
> > even
> > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > reference.
> > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > --
> > > > jeff (the other one)
and as proof you point out the 60 degree design, or alternately point out
the old Buick design.
Again, for the record: Chevrolet has designed and manufactured (at least)
two different V6 designs, neither of which own anything to the old Buick
design. One of these is a 60 degree even-fire design and was used in
Cherokees. The second design is a 90 degree design based on the small block
and was produced in odd-fire and even fire variations. Both variations used
an offset crank with different degrees of offset. FWIW, aftermarket parts
are available (crank, cam, distributor)to make this a full non-offset 90/150
degree odd fire engine that is fairly stout, if somewhat rough running.
So tell me again how there are no odd-fire Chevy V6s.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:415D950B.FD52764A@***.net...
> Jeff again, I pointed you to the other Chevy V6 that was of an
> originally design for the mini trucks, and of course, was never an
> odd-fire: http://www.high-performance-engines.com/engineswap.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jeff Lowe wrote:
> >
> > Stop explaining and try listening for a change. Chevy ALSO manufactured
a 90
> > degree odd-fire V6 which was based on the template and internal parts of
the
> > small block Chevy. In it's original configuration, it used an offset
crank
> > which gave a firing angle of 132/108. Certainly better than the old
> > Buick/Dauntless's 90/150, but not an even fire design by any stretch of
the
> > imagination.
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:415D8D98.B71EFD9C@***.net...
> > > Jesus f**kin' Christ, how many times do I have to explain, it's
the
> > > old Buick engine that was odd fire, that was because rather than
> > > redesigning the engine, Buick, simply lobbed off two cylinders and
made
> > > a V6, when the Chevrolet division bought it back from Kaiser, they
> > > turned the crank and made it even, made it idle much better, but it
lost
> > > the strength of the V8 crank. a quote from the site you pointed me to:
> > > "he odd-fire V6 operation was improved substantially by modifying the
> > > crankshaft."
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Jeff Lowe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Bill: plain and simple: There ARE Chevy odd fire V-6 engines. These
are
> > > > *not* Buick engines as you keep saying. They are also not the 60
degree
> > even
> > > > fire V6s that Jeep put in the early Cherokee as shown in your second
> > > > reference.
> > > > Read: http://engine.firebirdv6.com/V690.html
> > > > --
> > > > jeff (the other one)
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