Detroit Vs Japan
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Stephen Cowell <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone.
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh
> afts%22&qt_s=Search
>
> Eight hits...
>
> > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard
> > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including
> > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them.
>
> Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you
> eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome...
> you remember your assertion, right? It went like:
>
> > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American
> > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example.
>
> I'm helping you learn!
You are an optimist.
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone.
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh
> afts%22&qt_s=Search
>
> Eight hits...
>
> > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard
> > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including
> > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them.
>
> Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you
> eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome...
> you remember your assertion, right? It went like:
>
> > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American
> > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example.
>
> I'm helping you learn!
You are an optimist.
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Ruel Smith <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> RJ wrote:
>
> > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the
> > worst rust bucket I ever saw.
> >
> > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer
>
> Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns,
> rusted pretty easily and pretty badly.
All cars then were rusted hulks compared to today's production. But the
Vega and Blazer were some of the worst.
> RJ wrote:
>
> > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the
> > worst rust bucket I ever saw.
> >
> > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer
>
> Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns,
> rusted pretty easily and pretty badly.
All cars then were rusted hulks compared to today's production. But the
Vega and Blazer were some of the worst.
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Stephen Cowell <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:429936DF.70DFE2D@***.net...
> > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone.
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh
> afts%22&qt_s=Search
>
> Eight hits...
>
> > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard
> > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including
> > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them.
>
> Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you
> eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome...
> you remember your assertion, right? It went like:
>
> > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American
> > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example.
>
> I'm helping you learn!
You are an optimist.
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:429936DF.70DFE2D@***.net...
> > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone.
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh
> afts%22&qt_s=Search
>
> Eight hits...
>
> > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard
> > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including
> > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them.
>
> Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you
> eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome...
> you remember your assertion, right? It went like:
>
> > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American
> > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example.
>
> I'm helping you learn!
You are an optimist.
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"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET...
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET...
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
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> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET...
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET...
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET...
> Nathan W. Collier wrote:
>
>> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year
>> ill
>> just consider the source and smile. :-)
>
> You are a complete idiot.
coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill
just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is
driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-)
--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
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RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.
Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.
Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.
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RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.
Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.
Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.
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RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.
Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>
>> And what was wrong with these "Vega,
>
>
> A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega.
>
> The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded.
Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with
excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff
falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off
washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine
wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the
928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the
damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until
the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced
junk on wheels.


