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Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:a59ec$42993ee1$422aaa8f$6586@FUSE.NET... > Buddy, I know mechanics that work in a dealership that > make _very_ good money. If they didn't, they wouldn't be able to afford > those $15,000 toolboxes and the $25,000 they invest in tools for their > trade. Yeah, they're not poor... i never said anything about them being "poor". i stated that they were lower middle class incomes. get it right. > You're obviously too stupid to understand that point... coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill just consider the source and smile. :-) -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets:
http://www.tootees.com/me.htm http://www.prostreetss.com/vegadrag1.htm http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/BADassVega/ http://www.v8monza.com/album/vega-wagon.htm http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/...ze/irrgang.jpg http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-V...slip-5244.html http://www.draglist.com/Pictures/POD...POD-041703.htm http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/GPC/.../HA-KM7101.jpg http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co...ckside)_30.jpg http://www.computermagiconline.com/7...os/25Pulde.jpg http://www.dragracecanada.com/canadi...photos/005.jpg http://www.mhdra.com/gallery/detail.asp?item=39 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ RJ wrote: > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets:
http://www.tootees.com/me.htm http://www.prostreetss.com/vegadrag1.htm http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/BADassVega/ http://www.v8monza.com/album/vega-wagon.htm http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/...ze/irrgang.jpg http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-V...slip-5244.html http://www.draglist.com/Pictures/POD...POD-041703.htm http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/GPC/.../HA-KM7101.jpg http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co...ckside)_30.jpg http://www.computermagiconline.com/7...os/25Pulde.jpg http://www.dragracecanada.com/canadi...photos/005.jpg http://www.mhdra.com/gallery/detail.asp?item=39 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ RJ wrote: > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets:
http://www.tootees.com/me.htm http://www.prostreetss.com/vegadrag1.htm http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/BADassVega/ http://www.v8monza.com/album/vega-wagon.htm http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/...ze/irrgang.jpg http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-V...slip-5244.html http://www.draglist.com/Pictures/POD...POD-041703.htm http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/GPC/.../HA-KM7101.jpg http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co...ckside)_30.jpg http://www.computermagiconline.com/7...os/25Pulde.jpg http://www.dragracecanada.com/canadi...photos/005.jpg http://www.mhdra.com/gallery/detail.asp?item=39 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ RJ wrote: > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets:
http://www.tootees.com/me.htm http://www.prostreetss.com/vegadrag1.htm http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/BADassVega/ http://www.v8monza.com/album/vega-wagon.htm http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/...ze/irrgang.jpg http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-V...slip-5244.html http://www.draglist.com/Pictures/POD...POD-041703.htm http://www.charlesgilchrist.com/GPC/.../HA-KM7101.jpg http://www.theaccelerationarchive.co...ckside)_30.jpg http://www.computermagiconline.com/7...os/25Pulde.jpg http://www.dragracecanada.com/canadi...photos/005.jpg http://www.mhdra.com/gallery/detail.asp?item=39 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ RJ wrote: > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets: They are in rust buckets. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets: They are in rust buckets. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets: They are in rust buckets. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote:
> You might tell these racers they're in rust buckets: They are in rust buckets. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429933F2.F084A789@cox.net... > Stephen Cowell wrote: > > > > Salem was before the Bible? > > > > Actually, most of your ancestors were probably > > single-celled organisms... > > > > You're not religious... you're evil! > > __ > > Steve > > . > You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches > in any Bible: Perhaps not in version 31 (look at your link)... what about KJV? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:18;&version=9 Exodus 22:18? 18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. I assert that KJV would be included in 'any Bible'... so your assertion is proven false.... plenty more about witchcraft, etc. in there. Your brand of Bible says: 18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live. Which I agree *completely* changes the meaning... I mean, 'sorceress'? Much more badass! > http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31 > And I am a Christian. What brand? Local franchise, or one of the Biggies? We'll assume you're not Coptic or Gnostic... __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429933F2.F084A789@cox.net... > Stephen Cowell wrote: > > > > Salem was before the Bible? > > > > Actually, most of your ancestors were probably > > single-celled organisms... > > > > You're not religious... you're evil! > > __ > > Steve > > . > You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches > in any Bible: Perhaps not in version 31 (look at your link)... what about KJV? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:18;&version=9 Exodus 22:18? 18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. I assert that KJV would be included in 'any Bible'... so your assertion is proven false.... plenty more about witchcraft, etc. in there. Your brand of Bible says: 18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live. Which I agree *completely* changes the meaning... I mean, 'sorceress'? Much more badass! > http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31 > And I am a Christian. What brand? Local franchise, or one of the Biggies? We'll assume you're not Coptic or Gnostic... __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429933F2.F084A789@cox.net... > Stephen Cowell wrote: > > > > Salem was before the Bible? > > > > Actually, most of your ancestors were probably > > single-celled organisms... > > > > You're not religious... you're evil! > > __ > > Steve > > . > You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches > in any Bible: Perhaps not in version 31 (look at your link)... what about KJV? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:18;&version=9 Exodus 22:18? 18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. I assert that KJV would be included in 'any Bible'... so your assertion is proven false.... plenty more about witchcraft, etc. in there. Your brand of Bible says: 18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live. Which I agree *completely* changes the meaning... I mean, 'sorceress'? Much more badass! > http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31 > And I am a Christian. What brand? Local franchise, or one of the Biggies? We'll assume you're not Coptic or Gnostic... __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429933F2.F084A789@cox.net... > Stephen Cowell wrote: > > > > Salem was before the Bible? > > > > Actually, most of your ancestors were probably > > single-celled organisms... > > > > You're not religious... you're evil! > > __ > > Steve > > . > You are so ignorant it's pitiful! There's no reference to witches > in any Bible: Perhaps not in version 31 (look at your link)... what about KJV? http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...:18;&version=9 Exodus 22:18? 18Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. I assert that KJV would be included in 'any Bible'... so your assertion is proven false.... plenty more about witchcraft, etc. in there. Your brand of Bible says: 18 "Do not allow a sorceress to live. Which I agree *completely* changes the meaning... I mean, 'sorceress'? Much more badass! > http://www.biblegateway.com/quicksea...&qs_version=31 > And I am a Christian. What brand? Local franchise, or one of the Biggies? We'll assume you're not Coptic or Gnostic... __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...22&qt_s=Search Eight hits... > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. I'm helping you learn! __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...22&qt_s=Search Eight hits... > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. I'm helping you learn! __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...22&qt_s=Search Eight hits... > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. I'm helping you learn! __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...22&qt_s=Search Eight hits... > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. I'm helping you learn! __ Steve .. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year > ill > just consider the source and smile. :-) You are a complete idiot. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year > ill > just consider the source and smile. :-) You are a complete idiot. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year > ill > just consider the source and smile. :-) You are a complete idiot. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year > ill > just consider the source and smile. :-) You are a complete idiot. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ wrote:
> In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ wrote:
> In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ wrote:
> In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ wrote:
> In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. -- Registered Linux user #378193 |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Ruel Smith <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> RJ wrote: > > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer > > Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, > rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. All cars then were rusted hulks compared to today's production. But the Vega and Blazer were some of the worst. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Ruel Smith <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> RJ wrote: > > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer > > Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, > rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. All cars then were rusted hulks compared to today's production. But the Vega and Blazer were some of the worst. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Ruel Smith <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> RJ wrote: > > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer > > Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, > rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. All cars then were rusted hulks compared to today's production. But the Vega and Blazer were some of the worst. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Stephen Cowell <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. > > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh > afts%22&qt_s=Search > > Eight hits... > > > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. > > Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you > eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... > you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > > > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. > > I'm helping you learn! You are an optimist. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Stephen Cowell <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. > > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh > afts%22&qt_s=Search > > Eight hits... > > > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. > > Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you > eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... > you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > > > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. > > I'm helping you learn! You are an optimist. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Stephen Cowell <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. > > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh > afts%22&qt_s=Search > > Eight hits... > > > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. > > Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you > eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... > you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > > > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. > > I'm helping you learn! You are an optimist. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Ruel Smith <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote:
> RJ wrote: > > > In addition to the badly engineered aluminum engine, the Vega was the > > worst rust bucket I ever saw. > > > > Second worst, by the way, was the full size Chevy Blazer > > Man... Those Japanese cars from that same era, especially the Datsuns, > rusted pretty easily and pretty badly. All cars then were rusted hulks compared to today's production. But the Vega and Blazer were some of the worst. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
Stephen Cowell <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:429936DF.70DFE2D@cox.net... > > I don't know of any "soft" camshafts made by anyone. > > http://groups-beta.google.com/groups...+%22soft+camsh > afts%22&qt_s=Search > > Eight hits... > > > GM, shouldn't have made the nineteen to one, from the standard > > passenger car's 350" small block. They failed because people including > > the tanker truck drivers kept put gasoline into them. > > Oh, now you're admitting a mistake by GM! I've helped you > eliminate another 'never' from your vocabulary! You're welcome... > you remember your assertion, right? It went like: > > > What reliability problems were there? People bashing American > > products say that, but are never capable of giving us an example. > > I'm helping you learn! You are an optimist. |
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"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET... > Nathan W. Collier wrote: > >> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year >> ill >> just consider the source and smile. :-) > > You are a complete idiot. coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-) -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
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"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET... > Nathan W. Collier wrote: > >> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year >> ill >> just consider the source and smile. :-) > > You are a complete idiot. coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-) -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET... > Nathan W. Collier wrote: > >> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year >> ill >> just consider the source and smile. :-) > > You are a complete idiot. coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-) -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:b4956$4299c611$4275e3a6$17954@FUSE.NET... > Nathan W. Collier wrote: > >> coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year >> ill >> just consider the source and smile. :-) > > You are a complete idiot. coming from someone who claims dealership mechanics earn $83,000 a year ill just consider the source and smile. another career you may consider is driving a cab. i hear they earn even more. :-) -- Nathan W. Collier http://7SlotGrille.com http://UtilityOffRoad.com |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > >> And what was wrong with these "Vega, > > > A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega. > > The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded. Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the 928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced junk on wheels. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > >> And what was wrong with these "Vega, > > > A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega. > > The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded. Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the 928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced junk on wheels. |
Re: Detroit Vs Japan
RJ proclaimed:
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@cox.net> wrote: > > >> And what was wrong with these "Vega, > > > A much shorter essay would be the list of what was right with the Vega. > > The car was a disaster from every dimension a car can be graded. Actually much of what was wrong with the Vega had more to do with excessive cost cutting, not the concept. The problems with stuff falling off [e.g. carbs] were caused by intentionally leaving off washers to save a few bucks. The concept of the aluminum engine wasn't what was wrong, as Porsche used it very successfully on the 928, it was the crappily cheap cooling system that did much of the damage. The Cosworth Vega was a good idea and a great car until the damn GM bean counters turned it into a piece of overpriced junk on wheels. |
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