detroit locker problem
07-29-2007, 06:14 PM
#51
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Re: Re: detroit locker problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:53:31 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I have a full Detroit in my AMC20, and an EZ Locker in the D30 on my front
>>axle. I've been driving my CJ with the front hubs locked constantly for
>>years, and I never have any problem from the front.
>
>
> The AMC20 is a much stronger axle than a D35 as it has a 1.3 inch
> bigger ring gear and a much larger carrier plus it has 8 7/16 inch
> bolt hold ring gear on vs 8ea 3/8 inch ones on the D35 which are also
> on a smaller radius relative to axle center line too on D35 the the
> difference is very apparent. If the AMC 20 has had a one piece axle
> upgrade I would easily place it above a stock D44 in strength.
Everybody else places it equal at best.
The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
You should stick to stuff you know about.
07-29-2007, 06:14 PM
#52
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Re: Re: detroit locker problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:53:31 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I have a full Detroit in my AMC20, and an EZ Locker in the D30 on my front
>>axle. I've been driving my CJ with the front hubs locked constantly for
>>years, and I never have any problem from the front.
>
>
> The AMC20 is a much stronger axle than a D35 as it has a 1.3 inch
> bigger ring gear and a much larger carrier plus it has 8 7/16 inch
> bolt hold ring gear on vs 8ea 3/8 inch ones on the D35 which are also
> on a smaller radius relative to axle center line too on D35 the the
> difference is very apparent. If the AMC 20 has had a one piece axle
> upgrade I would easily place it above a stock D44 in strength.
Everybody else places it equal at best.
The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
You should stick to stuff you know about.
07-29-2007, 06:14 PM
#53
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Re: Re: detroit locker problem
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:53:31 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I have a full Detroit in my AMC20, and an EZ Locker in the D30 on my front
>>axle. I've been driving my CJ with the front hubs locked constantly for
>>years, and I never have any problem from the front.
>
>
> The AMC20 is a much stronger axle than a D35 as it has a 1.3 inch
> bigger ring gear and a much larger carrier plus it has 8 7/16 inch
> bolt hold ring gear on vs 8ea 3/8 inch ones on the D35 which are also
> on a smaller radius relative to axle center line too on D35 the the
> difference is very apparent. If the AMC 20 has had a one piece axle
> upgrade I would easily place it above a stock D44 in strength.
Everybody else places it equal at best.
The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
You should stick to stuff you know about.
07-30-2007, 08:09 AM
#54
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
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TheSnoMan.com
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
07-30-2007, 08:09 AM
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
07-30-2007, 08:09 AM
#56
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
07-30-2007, 08:09 AM
#57
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>Everybody else places it equal at best.
>
>The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a moot
>point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
>
>You should stick to stuff you know about.
I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
07-30-2007, 08:41 AM
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
Exactly where has Jeff claimed that he is a "johny come lately flash in the
pan know it all" ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a
moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.
>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
pan know it all" ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a
moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.
>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
07-30-2007, 08:41 AM
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
Exactly where has Jeff claimed that he is a "johny come lately flash in the
pan know it all" ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a
moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.
>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
pan know it all" ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a
moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.
>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
07-30-2007, 08:41 AM
#60
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Re: Re: Re: detroit locker problem
Exactly where has Jeff claimed that he is a "johny come lately flash in the
pan know it all" ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a
moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.
>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
pan know it all" ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jokra31qr1849cbgurg9hbhprb20s452e4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:14:46 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >Everybody else places it equal at best.
> >
> >The Ring & Pinion gears on the OP's D35 are not broken, making this a
moot
> >point. Actually, it makes all of your posts on the subject moot.
> >
> >You should stick to stuff you know about.
>
>
> I think you should. I have been around jeeps and driving them before
> AMC even bought them and know the AMC 20 well. I am not a" johny come
> lately flash in the pan know it all" like you claim to be. You are the
> moot one because you do not think the ring and pinion size has any
> bearing on carrier design or strength or overall axle strength
> including axle housing itself which many like you never even remotaly
> consider. I have seen D35's break ring and pinion with upgraded axle
> but usually the axles go first. I have seen bent housing too that are
> not longer true. With stock tires they are about bullet proof in a old
> light weight Jeep but when you raise them and install bigger tires the
> rules change which you fail to understand. People like you think that
> you upgrade axle shafts and you have upgraded the whole rear end.
> There is a reason they make and use bigger axles and carriers but this
> logic escapes your limited grasp on this subject.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com