Death Wobble (again)
07-27-2005, 08:40 PM
#111
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Re: Death Wobble (again)
Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
is not limited to Jeeps.
Jerry
Mike Romain wrote:
> You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> a built in Death Wobble!
>
> On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>
> A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> out the window at it.
>
> Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> 'perfect' new Jeep!
>
> That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>
> OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> Jeep????
>
> If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> the 'Death traps'.
>
> Hmmmm????
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> noblow50 wrote:
>
>>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>>
>>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>>
>>really
>>
>>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
>>
>>that
>>
>>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>>
>>(both
>>
>>>of them).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>><snip>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
is not limited to Jeeps.
Jerry
Mike Romain wrote:
> You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> a built in Death Wobble!
>
> On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>
> A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> out the window at it.
>
> Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> 'perfect' new Jeep!
>
> That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>
> OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> Jeep????
>
> If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> the 'Death traps'.
>
> Hmmmm????
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> noblow50 wrote:
>
>>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>>
>>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>>
>>really
>>
>>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
>>
>>that
>>
>>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>>
>>(both
>>
>>>of them).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>><snip>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-27-2005, 08:40 PM
#112
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Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
is not limited to Jeeps.
Jerry
Mike Romain wrote:
> You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> a built in Death Wobble!
>
> On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>
> A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> out the window at it.
>
> Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> 'perfect' new Jeep!
>
> That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>
> OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> Jeep????
>
> If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> the 'Death traps'.
>
> Hmmmm????
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> noblow50 wrote:
>
>>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>>
>>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>>
>>really
>>
>>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
>>
>>that
>>
>>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>>
>>(both
>>
>>>of them).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>><snip>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
is not limited to Jeeps.
Jerry
Mike Romain wrote:
> You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> a built in Death Wobble!
>
> On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>
> A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> out the window at it.
>
> Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> 'perfect' new Jeep!
>
> That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>
> OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> Jeep????
>
> If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> the 'Death traps'.
>
> Hmmmm????
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> noblow50 wrote:
>
>>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>>
>>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>>
>>really
>>
>>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
>>
>>that
>>
>>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>>
>>(both
>>
>>>of them).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>><snip>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-27-2005, 08:40 PM
#113
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Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
is not limited to Jeeps.
Jerry
Mike Romain wrote:
> You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> a built in Death Wobble!
>
> On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>
> A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> out the window at it.
>
> Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> 'perfect' new Jeep!
>
> That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>
> OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> Jeep????
>
> If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> the 'Death traps'.
>
> Hmmmm????
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> noblow50 wrote:
>
>>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>>
>>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>>
>>really
>>
>>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
>>
>>that
>>
>>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>>
>>(both
>>
>>>of them).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>><snip>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
is not limited to Jeeps.
Jerry
Mike Romain wrote:
> You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> a built in Death Wobble!
>
> On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>
> A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> out the window at it.
>
> Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> 'perfect' new Jeep!
>
> That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>
> OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> Jeep????
>
> If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> the 'Death traps'.
>
> Hmmmm????
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
> noblow50 wrote:
>
>>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>>
>>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>>
>>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>>
>>really
>>
>>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
>>
>>that
>>
>>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>>
>>(both
>>
>>>of them).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>><snip>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-27-2005, 08:53 PM
#114
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Re: Death Wobble (again)
I have no complaints....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
07-27-2005, 08:53 PM
#115
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Re: Death Wobble (again)
I have no complaints....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
07-27-2005, 08:53 PM
#116
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
I have no complaints....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
07-27-2005, 08:53 PM
#117
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
I have no complaints....
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
Mike
Steve wrote:
>
> Any man should be happy with nine inches.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > You I believe are happy with just nine inches
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> >>You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> >>a built in Death Wobble!
07-27-2005, 08:57 PM
#118
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Re: Death Wobble (again)
That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-27-2005, 08:57 PM
#119
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-27-2005, 08:57 PM
#120
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Re: Death Wobble (again)
That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/