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billy ray 10-08-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
afternoon....

The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
18s.....


"swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:C14EFDBB.50FF6%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> Tire balance and the steering damper are the causes. I wouldn't think
> twice
> about changing the damper, then go to a reputable tire shop. Have them
> check the tires for out-of-round, and spin balance and rotate.
>
> Frequent tire rotation is an absolute must for Jeep owners. I do it every
> three months, and have them spin balanced too. It's been worth the money.
>
> The stock damper is pretty lame. You'll be changing it sooner or later
> anyway and they don't cost that much.
>
> If your dealer didn't know what was wrong, find somewhere else to take it.
> This is a very common problem.
>
> Paul Nelson
> http://www.kerygma.org/nelson
>
>
> in article Z2fWg.10818$e66.8146@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, Lloyd Hanning
> at
> lloydhanning@yahoo.com wrote on 10/8/06 5:35 PM:
>
>> I've got an 04 Rubicon and it goes nuts too when I cross RR tracks or a
>> weird bump. Seems it only happens when I'm doing 50 - 60. I have to slow
>> down to 30 go keep it under control. The wobble stops, then I can
>> continue.
>> I've only got 15K on it, and I took it back to the dealer and he said he
>> couldn't find anything wrong. I'm thinking about replacing the steering
>> damper with a bigger one. Do you think that would help? If so, any
>> recommendations on what damper to get?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Lloyd
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:461cb$4526f346$422afc51$22255@FUSE.NET...
>>> How common is death wobble on a bone stock 2WD XJ?.
>>>
>>> I have a friend who was trying to describe the XJs recent reaction to
>>> crossing the railroad tracks and all I could make of it was death
>>> wobble......
>>>
>>> Am I missing something or what should I be looking at tomorrow?
>>>
>>> What I know:
>>> '96 XJ Classic 2WD, ~90k miles, 4 liter 3 speed automatic,. Kelly
>>> Celebrity tires mounted and balanced 2 years ago, not aligned at that
>>> time (old tires had no odd wear), condition of shocks unknown, condition
>>> of suspension unknown. Brakes and rotors new - DW existed before the
>>> brake job)
>>>
>>> Jeeps seems to be otherwise in good shape the 'dw like' sensation only
>>> mentioned as an afterthought within a different conversation last night.
>>> I don't know if this is the first instance or a recurring problem. (I
>>> suspect it is not a common occurrence on this Jeep as it has never been
>>> mentioned before)
>>>
>>> I will be looking at this over the weekend. Anything in particular,
>>> other
>>> than the above, that I should look for?
>>>

>>
>>

>




DougW 10-08-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
billy ray wrote:
> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt
> out. What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on
> Sunday afternoon....


pitman arm puller and a sledge.

http://revbeergoggles.com/balljoint1

--
DougW



DougW 10-08-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
billy ray wrote:
> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt
> out. What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on
> Sunday afternoon....


pitman arm puller and a sledge.

http://revbeergoggles.com/balljoint1

--
DougW



DougW 10-08-2006 10:52 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
billy ray wrote:
> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt
> out. What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on
> Sunday afternoon....


pitman arm puller and a sledge.

http://revbeergoggles.com/balljoint1

--
DougW



L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-08-2006 11:50 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/stab/stab-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
> What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
> afternoon....
>
> The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
> 18s.....


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-08-2006 11:50 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/stab/stab-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
> What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
> afternoon....
>
> The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
> 18s.....


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 10-08-2006 11:50 PM

Re: Death Wobble
 
http://www.stu-offroad.com/steering/stab/stab-1.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
> What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
> afternoon....
>
> The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
> 18s.....


Will Honea 10-09-2006 12:56 AM

Re: Death Wobble
 
Typical selection - 16, 17, 19mm. Go to Sears and buy both an 18mm
wrench and socket. If that's not the size you need now, you'll need
it eventually. Same thing for 15mm - a lot of cheaper sets leave that
one out as well.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 02:22:44 UTC "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net>
wrote:

> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
> What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
> afternoon....
>
> The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
> 18s.....
>
>
> "swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:C14EFDBB.50FF6%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> > Tire balance and the steering damper are the causes. I wouldn't think
> > twice
> > about changing the damper, then go to a reputable tire shop. Have them
> > check the tires for out-of-round, and spin balance and rotate.
> >
> > Frequent tire rotation is an absolute must for Jeep owners. I do it every
> > three months, and have them spin balanced too. It's been worth the money.
> >
> > The stock damper is pretty lame. You'll be changing it sooner or later
> > anyway and they don't cost that much.
> >
> > If your dealer didn't know what was wrong, find somewhere else to take it.
> > This is a very common problem.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > http://www.kerygma.org/nelson
> >
> >
> > in article Z2fWg.10818$e66.8146@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, Lloyd Hanning
> > at
> > lloydhanning@yahoo.com wrote on 10/8/06 5:35 PM:
> >
> >> I've got an 04 Rubicon and it goes nuts too when I cross RR tracks or a
> >> weird bump. Seems it only happens when I'm doing 50 - 60. I have to slow
> >> down to 30 go keep it under control. The wobble stops, then I can
> >> continue.
> >> I've only got 15K on it, and I took it back to the dealer and he said he
> >> couldn't find anything wrong. I'm thinking about replacing the steering
> >> damper with a bigger one. Do you think that would help? If so, any
> >> recommendations on what damper to get?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:461cb$4526f346$422afc51$22255@FUSE.NET...
> >>> How common is death wobble on a bone stock 2WD XJ?.
> >>>
> >>> I have a friend who was trying to describe the XJs recent reaction to
> >>> crossing the railroad tracks and all I could make of it was death
> >>> wobble......
> >>>
> >>> Am I missing something or what should I be looking at tomorrow?
> >>>
> >>> What I know:
> >>> '96 XJ Classic 2WD, ~90k miles, 4 liter 3 speed automatic,. Kelly
> >>> Celebrity tires mounted and balanced 2 years ago, not aligned at that
> >>> time (old tires had no odd wear), condition of shocks unknown, condition
> >>> of suspension unknown. Brakes and rotors new - DW existed before the
> >>> brake job)
> >>>
> >>> Jeeps seems to be otherwise in good shape the 'dw like' sensation only
> >>> mentioned as an afterthought within a different conversation last night.
> >>> I don't know if this is the first instance or a recurring problem. (I
> >>> suspect it is not a common occurrence on this Jeep as it has never been
> >>> mentioned before)
> >>>
> >>> I will be looking at this over the weekend. Anything in particular,
> >>> other
> >>> than the above, that I should look for?
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 10-09-2006 12:56 AM

Re: Death Wobble
 
Typical selection - 16, 17, 19mm. Go to Sears and buy both an 18mm
wrench and socket. If that's not the size you need now, you'll need
it eventually. Same thing for 15mm - a lot of cheaper sets leave that
one out as well.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 02:22:44 UTC "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net>
wrote:

> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
> What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
> afternoon....
>
> The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
> 18s.....
>
>
> "swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:C14EFDBB.50FF6%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> > Tire balance and the steering damper are the causes. I wouldn't think
> > twice
> > about changing the damper, then go to a reputable tire shop. Have them
> > check the tires for out-of-round, and spin balance and rotate.
> >
> > Frequent tire rotation is an absolute must for Jeep owners. I do it every
> > three months, and have them spin balanced too. It's been worth the money.
> >
> > The stock damper is pretty lame. You'll be changing it sooner or later
> > anyway and they don't cost that much.
> >
> > If your dealer didn't know what was wrong, find somewhere else to take it.
> > This is a very common problem.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > http://www.kerygma.org/nelson
> >
> >
> > in article Z2fWg.10818$e66.8146@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, Lloyd Hanning
> > at
> > lloydhanning@yahoo.com wrote on 10/8/06 5:35 PM:
> >
> >> I've got an 04 Rubicon and it goes nuts too when I cross RR tracks or a
> >> weird bump. Seems it only happens when I'm doing 50 - 60. I have to slow
> >> down to 30 go keep it under control. The wobble stops, then I can
> >> continue.
> >> I've only got 15K on it, and I took it back to the dealer and he said he
> >> couldn't find anything wrong. I'm thinking about replacing the steering
> >> damper with a bigger one. Do you think that would help? If so, any
> >> recommendations on what damper to get?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:461cb$4526f346$422afc51$22255@FUSE.NET...
> >>> How common is death wobble on a bone stock 2WD XJ?.
> >>>
> >>> I have a friend who was trying to describe the XJs recent reaction to
> >>> crossing the railroad tracks and all I could make of it was death
> >>> wobble......
> >>>
> >>> Am I missing something or what should I be looking at tomorrow?
> >>>
> >>> What I know:
> >>> '96 XJ Classic 2WD, ~90k miles, 4 liter 3 speed automatic,. Kelly
> >>> Celebrity tires mounted and balanced 2 years ago, not aligned at that
> >>> time (old tires had no odd wear), condition of shocks unknown, condition
> >>> of suspension unknown. Brakes and rotors new - DW existed before the
> >>> brake job)
> >>>
> >>> Jeeps seems to be otherwise in good shape the 'dw like' sensation only
> >>> mentioned as an afterthought within a different conversation last night.
> >>> I don't know if this is the first instance or a recurring problem. (I
> >>> suspect it is not a common occurrence on this Jeep as it has never been
> >>> mentioned before)
> >>>
> >>> I will be looking at this over the weekend. Anything in particular,
> >>> other
> >>> than the above, that I should look for?
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>



--
Will Honea

Will Honea 10-09-2006 12:56 AM

Re: Death Wobble
 
Typical selection - 16, 17, 19mm. Go to Sears and buy both an 18mm
wrench and socket. If that's not the size you need now, you'll need
it eventually. Same thing for 15mm - a lot of cheaper sets leave that
one out as well.

On Mon, 9 Oct 2006 02:22:44 UTC "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net>
wrote:

> We banged on the damper for a while but couldn't get the tapered bolt out.
> What kind of puller should we have used if we could find one on Sunday
> afternoon....
>
> The other end requires two 18 mm wrenches We had two 17s and two 19s but no
> 18s.....
>
>
> "swbell" <kerygma2@swbell.net> wrote in message
> news:C14EFDBB.50FF6%kerygma2@swbell.net...
> > Tire balance and the steering damper are the causes. I wouldn't think
> > twice
> > about changing the damper, then go to a reputable tire shop. Have them
> > check the tires for out-of-round, and spin balance and rotate.
> >
> > Frequent tire rotation is an absolute must for Jeep owners. I do it every
> > three months, and have them spin balanced too. It's been worth the money.
> >
> > The stock damper is pretty lame. You'll be changing it sooner or later
> > anyway and they don't cost that much.
> >
> > If your dealer didn't know what was wrong, find somewhere else to take it.
> > This is a very common problem.
> >
> > Paul Nelson
> > http://www.kerygma.org/nelson
> >
> >
> > in article Z2fWg.10818$e66.8146@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com, Lloyd Hanning
> > at
> > lloydhanning@yahoo.com wrote on 10/8/06 5:35 PM:
> >
> >> I've got an 04 Rubicon and it goes nuts too when I cross RR tracks or a
> >> weird bump. Seems it only happens when I'm doing 50 - 60. I have to slow
> >> down to 30 go keep it under control. The wobble stops, then I can
> >> continue.
> >> I've only got 15K on it, and I took it back to the dealer and he said he
> >> couldn't find anything wrong. I'm thinking about replacing the steering
> >> damper with a bigger one. Do you think that would help? If so, any
> >> recommendations on what damper to get?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >>
> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> >> news:461cb$4526f346$422afc51$22255@FUSE.NET...
> >>> How common is death wobble on a bone stock 2WD XJ?.
> >>>
> >>> I have a friend who was trying to describe the XJs recent reaction to
> >>> crossing the railroad tracks and all I could make of it was death
> >>> wobble......
> >>>
> >>> Am I missing something or what should I be looking at tomorrow?
> >>>
> >>> What I know:
> >>> '96 XJ Classic 2WD, ~90k miles, 4 liter 3 speed automatic,. Kelly
> >>> Celebrity tires mounted and balanced 2 years ago, not aligned at that
> >>> time (old tires had no odd wear), condition of shocks unknown, condition
> >>> of suspension unknown. Brakes and rotors new - DW existed before the
> >>> brake job)
> >>>
> >>> Jeeps seems to be otherwise in good shape the 'dw like' sensation only
> >>> mentioned as an afterthought within a different conversation last night.
> >>> I don't know if this is the first instance or a recurring problem. (I
> >>> suspect it is not a common occurrence on this Jeep as it has never been
> >>> mentioned before)
> >>>
> >>> I will be looking at this over the weekend. Anything in particular,
> >>> other
> >>> than the above, that I should look for?
> >>>
> >>
> >>

> >

>
>



--
Will Honea


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