Death wobble
05-11-2006, 09:02 AM
#1
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Death wobble
OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
Any ideas where I should start looking?
knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
Any ideas where I should start looking?
05-11-2006, 10:02 AM
#2
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Re: Death wobble
DW needs something to trigger it (RR tracks or out of balance tires)
something to let it continue (steering stabilizer shot or loose ball
joints) and something underlying (bad alignment)
First off, make sure your tires are round and balanced, not damaged and
freshly rotated. Take it to a good alignment shop and have them check
for loose balljoints, tie rod ends, suspension arm bushings, wheel
bearings, etc. Have then check that the toe and caster are correct. For
33" tires the toe needs to be on the lower (smaller number) side of
spec. The caster also needs to be on the lower end of spec. If all that
checks out, put a new steering stabilizer on it.
Don't dwadle, DW is nothing to mess with.
my02tj@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
something to let it continue (steering stabilizer shot or loose ball
joints) and something underlying (bad alignment)
First off, make sure your tires are round and balanced, not damaged and
freshly rotated. Take it to a good alignment shop and have them check
for loose balljoints, tie rod ends, suspension arm bushings, wheel
bearings, etc. Have then check that the toe and caster are correct. For
33" tires the toe needs to be on the lower (smaller number) side of
spec. The caster also needs to be on the lower end of spec. If all that
checks out, put a new steering stabilizer on it.
Don't dwadle, DW is nothing to mess with.
my02tj@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
05-11-2006, 10:02 AM
#3
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Re: Death wobble
DW needs something to trigger it (RR tracks or out of balance tires)
something to let it continue (steering stabilizer shot or loose ball
joints) and something underlying (bad alignment)
First off, make sure your tires are round and balanced, not damaged and
freshly rotated. Take it to a good alignment shop and have them check
for loose balljoints, tie rod ends, suspension arm bushings, wheel
bearings, etc. Have then check that the toe and caster are correct. For
33" tires the toe needs to be on the lower (smaller number) side of
spec. The caster also needs to be on the lower end of spec. If all that
checks out, put a new steering stabilizer on it.
Don't dwadle, DW is nothing to mess with.
my02tj@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
something to let it continue (steering stabilizer shot or loose ball
joints) and something underlying (bad alignment)
First off, make sure your tires are round and balanced, not damaged and
freshly rotated. Take it to a good alignment shop and have them check
for loose balljoints, tie rod ends, suspension arm bushings, wheel
bearings, etc. Have then check that the toe and caster are correct. For
33" tires the toe needs to be on the lower (smaller number) side of
spec. The caster also needs to be on the lower end of spec. If all that
checks out, put a new steering stabilizer on it.
Don't dwadle, DW is nothing to mess with.
my02tj@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
05-11-2006, 10:02 AM
#4
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Re: Death wobble
DW needs something to trigger it (RR tracks or out of balance tires)
something to let it continue (steering stabilizer shot or loose ball
joints) and something underlying (bad alignment)
First off, make sure your tires are round and balanced, not damaged and
freshly rotated. Take it to a good alignment shop and have them check
for loose balljoints, tie rod ends, suspension arm bushings, wheel
bearings, etc. Have then check that the toe and caster are correct. For
33" tires the toe needs to be on the lower (smaller number) side of
spec. The caster also needs to be on the lower end of spec. If all that
checks out, put a new steering stabilizer on it.
Don't dwadle, DW is nothing to mess with.
my02tj@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
something to let it continue (steering stabilizer shot or loose ball
joints) and something underlying (bad alignment)
First off, make sure your tires are round and balanced, not damaged and
freshly rotated. Take it to a good alignment shop and have them check
for loose balljoints, tie rod ends, suspension arm bushings, wheel
bearings, etc. Have then check that the toe and caster are correct. For
33" tires the toe needs to be on the lower (smaller number) side of
spec. The caster also needs to be on the lower end of spec. If all that
checks out, put a new steering stabilizer on it.
Don't dwadle, DW is nothing to mess with.
my02tj@gmail.com wrote:
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
05-11-2006, 10:07 AM
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Re: Death wobble
I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will have
them soon.
Earle
<my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will have
them soon.
Earle
<my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
05-11-2006, 10:07 AM
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Re: Death wobble
I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will have
them soon.
Earle
<my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will have
them soon.
Earle
<my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
05-11-2006, 10:07 AM
#7
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Re: Death wobble
I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will have
them soon.
Earle
<my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will have
them soon.
Earle
<my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>
> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>
> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>
05-11-2006, 12:26 PM
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Re: Death wobble
And be aware that while individual parts may still be 'within specs' when
you have lots of worn front end parts it all adds up.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
> every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will
> have
> them soon.
>
> Earle
>
> <my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>>
>
>
you have lots of worn front end parts it all adds up.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4463449d$0$23711$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
> every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will
> have
> them soon.
>
> Earle
>
> <my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>>
>
>
05-11-2006, 12:26 PM
#9
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Re: Death wobble
And be aware that while individual parts may still be 'within specs' when
you have lots of worn front end parts it all adds up.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4463449d$0$23711$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
> every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will
> have
> them soon.
>
> Earle
>
> <my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>>
>
>
you have lots of worn front end parts it all adds up.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4463449d$0$23711$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
> every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will
> have
> them soon.
>
> Earle
>
> <my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>>
>
>
05-11-2006, 12:26 PM
#10
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Posts: n/a
Re: Death wobble
And be aware that while individual parts may still be 'within specs' when
you have lots of worn front end parts it all adds up.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4463449d$0$23711$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
> every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will
> have
> them soon.
>
> Earle
>
> <my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>>
>
>
you have lots of worn front end parts it all adds up.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:4463449d$0$23711$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I vote for replacing the stabilizer right away. Besides being dangerous
> every time it happens, if you don't have loose ball joints now you will
> have
> them soon.
>
> Earle
>
> <my02tj@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147352531.086549.220560@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com...
>> OK, so i will start out by stating I have limited to no mechanical
>> knowledge, and i'm looking for a place to start looking...
>>
>> I've got an 04 LJ with a BDS 3" lift running 33's (stock steering
>> stabilizer), and recently it seems every time I go over a bump or rr
>> tracks (driving 25-50mph) my LJ gets to shaking/rocking/vibrating back
>> and forth. At first (like 1.5 months ago) it was only happening at
>> higher speeds, and braking/slowing would stop it. It has progressively
>> been getting worse to the point where I can run over rr tracks at 25
>> mph and braking does't help and I have to just ride it out. Kind of
>> scary especially with my 18 mo old daughter in the Jeep with me.
>>
>> Any ideas where I should start looking?
>>
>
>