tim bur

wrong
don't believe it take it off on your jeep and go for a ride on a bumpy road

Jerry Bransford wrote:

> DW is NEVER caused by a bad steering stabilizer, all a steering
> stabilizer does is to mask the symptoms caused by something else. As
> soon as that stabilizer wears out from fighting the true root cause of
> your DW, the DW will return. My other suggestions on checking the tire
> balance, looking for a loose/bad ball joint, or a loose/bad trackbar
> bushing or bolt.
>
> Once again... and this is a problem I know well... replacing the
> steering stabilizer to "cure" DW is like placing a band-aid on a
> melanoma skin cancer. You can't see the cancer but it's still there.
>
> Jerry
>
> TF wrote:
> > Agree with post,
> > Also (credit to Bill) after all checked out, it was the steering
> > stabilizer...yes it was recently replaced, but there was a dead spot where
> > there was no shock absorbtion, about 1 inch where the wheels would be
> > straight.
> > Buy from advanced auto, not NAPA, they sold me the wrong one...
> > At least it worked on my XJ...
> >
> > Tom
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:gN%Qe.6918$ct5.3336@fed1read04...
> >
> >>DW is sometimes difficult to cure but at least do the two initial
> >>suggestions which commonly cure that situation. Get the tires balanced
> >>PERFECTLY and then see if anything is loose on your YJ's front-end. I
> >>don't recall if a YJ has a front trackbar but if it does, make sure its
> >>mounting bolts are tight. An out-of-balance tire or bent wheel is a
> >>common trigger for DW.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >>
> >>help-slip-franklin wrote:
> >>
> >>>Over the weekend I bought some home improvement materials from the local
> >>>DIY
> >>>place and while bringing them home in a trailer on my 1994YJ 6cyl I
> >>>started
> >>>to feel the DW at about 50 mph. Slowed down and it went away. I was too
> >>>chicken to try again to see if it was the road (ie. rough, pot holes,
> >>>ect..)
> >>>or if it was inherent in the design. I'd like to know since I haul
> >>>firewood
> >>>with the same rig but usually don't make it over 40 mph when I'm doing
> >>>that.
> >>>What is the general consensus on the DW?
> >>>Thanks
> >>>H-S-F
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Jerry Bransford
> >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

Dave Milne

I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:43162A57.214CE1EE@cac.net...
> wrong
> don't believe it take it off on your jeep and go for a ride on a bumpy
road
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > DW is NEVER caused by a bad steering stabilizer, all a steering
> > stabilizer does is to mask the symptoms caused by something else. As
> > soon as that stabilizer wears out from fighting the true root cause of
> > your DW, the DW will return. My other suggestions on checking the tire
> > balance, looking for a loose/bad ball joint, or a loose/bad trackbar
> > bushing or bolt.
> >
> > Once again... and this is a problem I know well... replacing the
> > steering stabilizer to "cure" DW is like placing a band-aid on a
> > melanoma skin cancer. You can't see the cancer but it's still there.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > TF wrote:
> > > Agree with post,
> > > Also (credit to Bill) after all checked out, it was the steering
> > > stabilizer...yes it was recently replaced, but there was a dead spot
where
> > > there was no shock absorbtion, about 1 inch where the wheels would be
> > > straight.
> > > Buy from advanced auto, not NAPA, they sold me the wrong one...
> > > At least it worked on my XJ...
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:gN%Qe.6918$ct5.3336@fed1read04...
> > >
> > >>DW is sometimes difficult to cure but at least do the two initial
> > >>suggestions which commonly cure that situation. Get the tires
balanced
> > >>PERFECTLY and then see if anything is loose on your YJ's front-end. I
> > >>don't recall if a YJ has a front trackbar but if it does, make sure
its
> > >>mounting bolts are tight. An out-of-balance tire or bent wheel is a
> > >>common trigger for DW.
> > >>
> > >>Jerry
> > >>
> > >>help-slip-franklin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Over the weekend I bought some home improvement materials from the
local
> > >>>DIY
> > >>>place and while bringing them home in a trailer on my 1994YJ 6cyl I
> > >>>started
> > >>>to feel the DW at about 50 mph. Slowed down and it went away. I was
too
> > >>>chicken to try again to see if it was the road (ie. rough, pot holes,
> > >>>ect..)
> > >>>or if it was inherent in the design. I'd like to know since I haul
> > >>>firewood
> > >>>with the same rig but usually don't make it over 40 mph when I'm
doing
> > >>>that.
> > >>>What is the general consensus on the DW?
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>H-S-F
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Jerry Bransford
> > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>

Dave Milne

I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:43162A57.214CE1EE@cac.net...
> wrong
> don't believe it take it off on your jeep and go for a ride on a bumpy
road
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > DW is NEVER caused by a bad steering stabilizer, all a steering
> > stabilizer does is to mask the symptoms caused by something else. As
> > soon as that stabilizer wears out from fighting the true root cause of
> > your DW, the DW will return. My other suggestions on checking the tire
> > balance, looking for a loose/bad ball joint, or a loose/bad trackbar
> > bushing or bolt.
> >
> > Once again... and this is a problem I know well... replacing the
> > steering stabilizer to "cure" DW is like placing a band-aid on a
> > melanoma skin cancer. You can't see the cancer but it's still there.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > TF wrote:
> > > Agree with post,
> > > Also (credit to Bill) after all checked out, it was the steering
> > > stabilizer...yes it was recently replaced, but there was a dead spot
where
> > > there was no shock absorbtion, about 1 inch where the wheels would be
> > > straight.
> > > Buy from advanced auto, not NAPA, they sold me the wrong one...
> > > At least it worked on my XJ...
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:gN%Qe.6918$ct5.3336@fed1read04...
> > >
> > >>DW is sometimes difficult to cure but at least do the two initial
> > >>suggestions which commonly cure that situation. Get the tires
balanced
> > >>PERFECTLY and then see if anything is loose on your YJ's front-end. I
> > >>don't recall if a YJ has a front trackbar but if it does, make sure
its
> > >>mounting bolts are tight. An out-of-balance tire or bent wheel is a
> > >>common trigger for DW.
> > >>
> > >>Jerry
> > >>
> > >>help-slip-franklin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Over the weekend I bought some home improvement materials from the
local
> > >>>DIY
> > >>>place and while bringing them home in a trailer on my 1994YJ 6cyl I
> > >>>started
> > >>>to feel the DW at about 50 mph. Slowed down and it went away. I was
too
> > >>>chicken to try again to see if it was the road (ie. rough, pot holes,
> > >>>ect..)
> > >>>or if it was inherent in the design. I'd like to know since I haul
> > >>>firewood
> > >>>with the same rig but usually don't make it over 40 mph when I'm
doing
> > >>>that.
> > >>>What is the general consensus on the DW?
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>H-S-F
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Jerry Bransford
> > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>

Dave Milne

I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:43162A57.214CE1EE@cac.net...
> wrong
> don't believe it take it off on your jeep and go for a ride on a bumpy
road
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > DW is NEVER caused by a bad steering stabilizer, all a steering
> > stabilizer does is to mask the symptoms caused by something else. As
> > soon as that stabilizer wears out from fighting the true root cause of
> > your DW, the DW will return. My other suggestions on checking the tire
> > balance, looking for a loose/bad ball joint, or a loose/bad trackbar
> > bushing or bolt.
> >
> > Once again... and this is a problem I know well... replacing the
> > steering stabilizer to "cure" DW is like placing a band-aid on a
> > melanoma skin cancer. You can't see the cancer but it's still there.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > TF wrote:
> > > Agree with post,
> > > Also (credit to Bill) after all checked out, it was the steering
> > > stabilizer...yes it was recently replaced, but there was a dead spot
where
> > > there was no shock absorbtion, about 1 inch where the wheels would be
> > > straight.
> > > Buy from advanced auto, not NAPA, they sold me the wrong one...
> > > At least it worked on my XJ...
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:gN%Qe.6918$ct5.3336@fed1read04...
> > >
> > >>DW is sometimes difficult to cure but at least do the two initial
> > >>suggestions which commonly cure that situation. Get the tires
balanced
> > >>PERFECTLY and then see if anything is loose on your YJ's front-end. I
> > >>don't recall if a YJ has a front trackbar but if it does, make sure
its
> > >>mounting bolts are tight. An out-of-balance tire or bent wheel is a
> > >>common trigger for DW.
> > >>
> > >>Jerry
> > >>
> > >>help-slip-franklin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Over the weekend I bought some home improvement materials from the
local
> > >>>DIY
> > >>>place and while bringing them home in a trailer on my 1994YJ 6cyl I
> > >>>started
> > >>>to feel the DW at about 50 mph. Slowed down and it went away. I was
too
> > >>>chicken to try again to see if it was the road (ie. rough, pot holes,
> > >>>ect..)
> > >>>or if it was inherent in the design. I'd like to know since I haul
> > >>>firewood
> > >>>with the same rig but usually don't make it over 40 mph when I'm
doing
> > >>>that.
> > >>>What is the general consensus on the DW?
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>H-S-F
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Jerry Bransford
> > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>

Dave Milne

I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ


"tim bur" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:43162A57.214CE1EE@cac.net...
> wrong
> don't believe it take it off on your jeep and go for a ride on a bumpy
road
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > DW is NEVER caused by a bad steering stabilizer, all a steering
> > stabilizer does is to mask the symptoms caused by something else. As
> > soon as that stabilizer wears out from fighting the true root cause of
> > your DW, the DW will return. My other suggestions on checking the tire
> > balance, looking for a loose/bad ball joint, or a loose/bad trackbar
> > bushing or bolt.
> >
> > Once again... and this is a problem I know well... replacing the
> > steering stabilizer to "cure" DW is like placing a band-aid on a
> > melanoma skin cancer. You can't see the cancer but it's still there.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > TF wrote:
> > > Agree with post,
> > > Also (credit to Bill) after all checked out, it was the steering
> > > stabilizer...yes it was recently replaced, but there was a dead spot
where
> > > there was no shock absorbtion, about 1 inch where the wheels would be
> > > straight.
> > > Buy from advanced auto, not NAPA, they sold me the wrong one...
> > > At least it worked on my XJ...
> > >
> > > Tom
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:gN%Qe.6918$ct5.3336@fed1read04...
> > >
> > >>DW is sometimes difficult to cure but at least do the two initial
> > >>suggestions which commonly cure that situation. Get the tires
balanced
> > >>PERFECTLY and then see if anything is loose on your YJ's front-end. I
> > >>don't recall if a YJ has a front trackbar but if it does, make sure
its
> > >>mounting bolts are tight. An out-of-balance tire or bent wheel is a
> > >>common trigger for DW.
> > >>
> > >>Jerry
> > >>
> > >>help-slip-franklin wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Over the weekend I bought some home improvement materials from the
local
> > >>>DIY
> > >>>place and while bringing them home in a trailer on my 1994YJ 6cyl I
> > >>>started
> > >>>to feel the DW at about 50 mph. Slowed down and it went away. I was
too
> > >>>chicken to try again to see if it was the road (ie. rough, pot holes,
> > >>>ect..)
> > >>>or if it was inherent in the design. I'd like to know since I haul
> > >>>firewood
> > >>>with the same rig but usually don't make it over 40 mph when I'm
doing
> > >>>that.
> > >>>What is the general consensus on the DW?
> > >>>Thanks
> > >>>H-S-F
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Jerry Bransford
> > >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So take the useless thing off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
> round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
> would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So take the useless thing off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
> round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
> would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So take the useless thing off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
> round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
> would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

So take the useless thing off.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I think Jerry is right. Mine has leaked out all its oil, and I've not got
> round to replacing it yet - no wobble at all. I can't see logically why it
> would do anything other than mask vibrations caused by worn components.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Terry Jeffrey

The death wobble on my 92YJ was caused by a worn drag link joint and a loose
track bar mount on the frame side. First thing I did was have the tires
rebalanced and replace the steering stablizer. DW remained. I finally took
it into a good shop and they were able to pinpoint the cause. Be careful of
some so-called "mechanics". I had many recomendations, to include taking
off the track bar and the steering stabilizer. Don't take anything off.
Everything is on there for a reason.

Good luck.
Terry


"help-slip-franklin" <blacknospam1988@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Uj_Qe.14293$k32.3883@trnddc08...
> Over the weekend I bought some home improvement materials from the local
> DIY
> place and while bringing them home in a trailer on my 1994YJ 6cyl I
> started
> to feel the DW at about 50 mph. Slowed down and it went away. I was too
> chicken to try again to see if it was the road (ie. rough, pot holes,
> ect..)
> or if it was inherent in the design. I'd like to know since I haul
> firewood
> with the same rig but usually don't make it over 40 mph when I'm doing
> that.
> What is the general consensus on the DW?
> Thanks
> H-S-F
>
>



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