Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
03-09-2006, 09:35 AM
#201
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Re: Off Topic Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
Bill,
Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
Your osmosis theory has some merit.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> phonics
>
> > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > learned via osmosis.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
Your osmosis theory has some merit.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> phonics
>
> > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > learned via osmosis.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
03-09-2006, 09:37 AM
#202
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Re: Off Topic Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 09:37 AM
#203
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Re: Off Topic Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 09:37 AM
#204
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Re: Off Topic Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 09:37 AM
#205
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Re: Off Topic Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
pronounced that way.
In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
> > phonics
> >
> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
> > > learned via osmosis.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
--
o_o_o_o
/| ,[_____],
|¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 10:58 AM
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OT: Phonetic language
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
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>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 10:58 AM
#207
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OT: Phonetic language
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 10:58 AM
#208
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Posts: n/a
OT: Phonetic language
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 10:58 AM
#209
Guest
Posts: n/a
OT: Phonetic language
The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement has been
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility. As part
of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling
had some room for improvement and has accepted a five-year phased plan for
what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for short).
European officials have often pointed out that English spelling is
unnecessarily difficult -- for example, cough, plough, rough, through and
thorough. What is clearly needed is a phased program of changes to iron out
these anomalies. The program would, of course, be administered by a
committee staff at top level by participating nations.
In the first year, for example, the committee would suggest using 's'
instead of the soft 'c'. Sertainly, sivil servants in all sities would
resieve this news with joy. Then the hard 'c' could be replaced by 'k' sinse
both letters are pronounsed alike. Not only would this klear up konfusion in
the minds of klerikal workers, but typewriters kould be made with one less
letter.
There would be growing enthusiasm when in the sekond year, it kould be
announsed that the troublesome 'ph' would henseforth be written 'f'. This
would make words like 'fotograf' twenty persent shorter in print.
In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reash the stage where more komplikated shanges are possible. Governments
would enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always been a
deterent to akurate speling.
We would al agre that the horible mes of silent 'e's in the languag is
disgrasful. Therfor we kould drop thes and kontinu to read and writ as
though nothing had hapend. By this tim it would be four years sins the skem
began and peopl would be reseptive to steps sutsh as replasing 'th' by 'z'.
Perhaps zen ze funktion of 'w' kould be taken on by 'v', vitsh is, after al,
half a 'w'. Shortly after zis, ze unesesary 'o kould be dropd from words
kontaining 'ou'. Similar arguments vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations
of leters.
Kontinuing zis proses yer after yer, ve vud eventuli hav a reli sensibl
riten styl. After tventi yers zer vud be no mor trubls, difikultis and
evrivun vud fin it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drems of ze Guvermnt vud
finali hav kum tru.
Received from Carrie Burroughs.
"aGraham" <aarongraham@mac.com.removeme> wrote in message
news:aarongraham-A13772.09373809032006@syrcnyrdrs-01-ge0.nyroc.rr.com...
>I realize this as I sit trying to teach my 5 year old how to read. He
> sounds out the words like he is supposed to but even then they are not
> pronounced that way.
>
>
> In article <44103acc$1$25463$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.com >,
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
>> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly,
>> people
>> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as
>> unique
>> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
>> phonetic information together during normal processing of written
>> language.
>> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>> > phonics
>> >
>> > > I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>> > > learned via osmosis.
>> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> o_o_o_o
> /| ,[_____],
> |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
> ()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
03-09-2006, 12:21 PM
#210
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Off Topic: A is for apple, B is.. WAS: Dana Corp files for bankruptcy
It wasn't that many centuries ago that written English was phonetic.
Back in the 1960s some then-new research showed that proficient readers
learn on their own to scan the outline shape of words instead of
individual characters. "Ah ha!" was heard from the ivory tower, "we'll
speed things up by teaching kids to `sight read' the shapes of words
instead of making them learn to read characters, then syllables, then
complete words. They'll just pick up the phonics and the foreign
loan-word variations as they go along."
Hey, guess what. We didn't. Short-cutting the learning process
resulted in kids who can read silently and quickly, but who don't
automatically sound out words. I've got a fairly large written
vocabulary but I can't correctly pronounce a distressing portion of it.
On the other hand, even with my nearsightedness I can read highway
information signs long before my traveling companions can make out the
characters, so maybe it is useful for something after all.
The bottom line is that you have to walk before you can run, and you
have to learn the rules of a language before you can understand how they
get broken. Shortcutting the process just cheats the kids.
Earle Horton wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Some of the more recent studies indicate that phonics in English may be a
> waste of time, as English is not written phonetically. Incredibly, people
> who read and write well just know all of the words of the language as unique
> symbols, at a subconscious level. There is simply no time to put the
> phonetic information together during normal processing of written language.
> Your osmosis theory has some merit.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:440FAE37.5D891012@***.net...
>
>>phonics
>>
>>
>>> I was taught not to use phoenix, the teacher read to us and we
>>>learned via osmosis.
>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
>
