Nathan W. Collier

"Scott in Baltimore" <sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> GM and Ford are in financial dire straits because their labor costs are
>> out of control, health insurance, pensions, etc.
>
> Ya' gotta' love our president.

tell me how in hell you figure its bushs fault. i dont owe my failures or
successes to bush or any other president. personal success is a _choice_
that each of us makes, just as failure in a choice. business success is
primarily dictated by consumer demand. gm/ford are in trouble for multiple
reasons, none of which can be laid at bushs feet. the american consumer is
all to willing to throw money at cheap chinese crap, while the american
union worker wants premium wages for mediocre work. if gm/ford want to
compete against cheaper products, they had better be able to offer "more"
which they dont. once upon a time it was a compromise to buy japanese.
today more often than not its "smart money" to buy japanese.


> Lets hope we make it to January 20, 2008 intact...

why wouldnt we? bush going to bring america to a screeching halt?

--
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Nathan W. Collier

"Scott in Baltimore" <sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gIydnZDufdn4MpbZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>> GM and Ford are in financial dire straits because their labor costs are
>> out of control, health insurance, pensions, etc.
>
> Ya' gotta' love our president.

tell me how in hell you figure its bushs fault. i dont owe my failures or
successes to bush or any other president. personal success is a _choice_
that each of us makes, just as failure in a choice. business success is
primarily dictated by consumer demand. gm/ford are in trouble for multiple
reasons, none of which can be laid at bushs feet. the american consumer is
all to willing to throw money at cheap chinese crap, while the american
union worker wants premium wages for mediocre work. if gm/ford want to
compete against cheaper products, they had better be able to offer "more"
which they dont. once upon a time it was a compromise to buy japanese.
today more often than not its "smart money" to buy japanese.


> Lets hope we make it to January 20, 2008 intact...

why wouldnt we? bush going to bring america to a screeching halt?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Scott in Baltimore" <sDcOoNtTtS_PuAnMiMtE_69@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:gIydnZDufdn4MpbZRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
>> GM and Ford are in financial dire straits because their labor costs are
>> out of control, health insurance, pensions, etc.
>
> Ya' gotta' love our president.

tell me how in hell you figure its bushs fault. i dont owe my failures or
successes to bush or any other president. personal success is a _choice_
that each of us makes, just as failure in a choice. business success is
primarily dictated by consumer demand. gm/ford are in trouble for multiple
reasons, none of which can be laid at bushs feet. the american consumer is
all to willing to throw money at cheap chinese crap, while the american
union worker wants premium wages for mediocre work. if gm/ford want to
compete against cheaper products, they had better be able to offer "more"
which they dont. once upon a time it was a compromise to buy japanese.
today more often than not its "smart money" to buy japanese.


> Lets hope we make it to January 20, 2008 intact...

why wouldnt we? bush going to bring america to a screeching halt?

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

twaldron

The Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers are desperately trying to hang
on to a scant smattering of glories from a distant past. It's pathetic.
They need to let go, move on, and join ranks with a much more 'today'
cause, The Preservation Society for the Dances of Babylonia.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Lon wrote:
> Well, I am still bummed out by the recent National Blacksmith Memorial
> ceremonies, where the Chariot Makers Guild were the honored guests, with
> the Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers providing a special treat with
> their precision drill team.
>
>
>
> Lee Ayrton proclaimed:
>
>> Where to draw the line indeed. I don't see anyone renting their robes
>> over the demise of companies that once made trolley cars (killed by
>> affordable automobiles) or diner cars (killed by chain eateries).
>>
>> Here's a little more depth on what has happened to Dana -- which, by
>> the way, is still turning a profit in its overseas operations.
>> <URL:http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060305/BUSINESS03/603050315>
>>
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> And your great, great, great granddad would roll over in his grave if
>>> he knew you were driving at all, instead of riding a horse. Where do
>>> you draw the line about living in the past?
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, and GM & Ford because everybody in the country these days are
>>>> driving their pretty new Toyotas and Hondas. How easily people
>>>> forget. My old granddad would roll over in his grave if I ever
>>>> bought a Jap. auto.
>>>>
>>>> Terry

twaldron

The Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers are desperately trying to hang
on to a scant smattering of glories from a distant past. It's pathetic.
They need to let go, move on, and join ranks with a much more 'today'
cause, The Preservation Society for the Dances of Babylonia.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Lon wrote:
> Well, I am still bummed out by the recent National Blacksmith Memorial
> ceremonies, where the Chariot Makers Guild were the honored guests, with
> the Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers providing a special treat with
> their precision drill team.
>
>
>
> Lee Ayrton proclaimed:
>
>> Where to draw the line indeed. I don't see anyone renting their robes
>> over the demise of companies that once made trolley cars (killed by
>> affordable automobiles) or diner cars (killed by chain eateries).
>>
>> Here's a little more depth on what has happened to Dana -- which, by
>> the way, is still turning a profit in its overseas operations.
>> <URL:http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060305/BUSINESS03/603050315>
>>
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> And your great, great, great granddad would roll over in his grave if
>>> he knew you were driving at all, instead of riding a horse. Where do
>>> you draw the line about living in the past?
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, and GM & Ford because everybody in the country these days are
>>>> driving their pretty new Toyotas and Hondas. How easily people
>>>> forget. My old granddad would roll over in his grave if I ever
>>>> bought a Jap. auto.
>>>>
>>>> Terry

twaldron

The Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers are desperately trying to hang
on to a scant smattering of glories from a distant past. It's pathetic.
They need to let go, move on, and join ranks with a much more 'today'
cause, The Preservation Society for the Dances of Babylonia.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Lon wrote:
> Well, I am still bummed out by the recent National Blacksmith Memorial
> ceremonies, where the Chariot Makers Guild were the honored guests, with
> the Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers providing a special treat with
> their precision drill team.
>
>
>
> Lee Ayrton proclaimed:
>
>> Where to draw the line indeed. I don't see anyone renting their robes
>> over the demise of companies that once made trolley cars (killed by
>> affordable automobiles) or diner cars (killed by chain eateries).
>>
>> Here's a little more depth on what has happened to Dana -- which, by
>> the way, is still turning a profit in its overseas operations.
>> <URL:http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060305/BUSINESS03/603050315>
>>
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> And your great, great, great granddad would roll over in his grave if
>>> he knew you were driving at all, instead of riding a horse. Where do
>>> you draw the line about living in the past?
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, and GM & Ford because everybody in the country these days are
>>>> driving their pretty new Toyotas and Hondas. How easily people
>>>> forget. My old granddad would roll over in his grave if I ever
>>>> bought a Jap. auto.
>>>>
>>>> Terry

twaldron

The Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers are desperately trying to hang
on to a scant smattering of glories from a distant past. It's pathetic.
They need to let go, move on, and join ranks with a much more 'today'
cause, The Preservation Society for the Dances of Babylonia.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Lon wrote:
> Well, I am still bummed out by the recent National Blacksmith Memorial
> ceremonies, where the Chariot Makers Guild were the honored guests, with
> the Fraternal Order of Mammoth Handlers providing a special treat with
> their precision drill team.
>
>
>
> Lee Ayrton proclaimed:
>
>> Where to draw the line indeed. I don't see anyone renting their robes
>> over the demise of companies that once made trolley cars (killed by
>> affordable automobiles) or diner cars (killed by chain eateries).
>>
>> Here's a little more depth on what has happened to Dana -- which, by
>> the way, is still turning a profit in its overseas operations.
>> <URL:http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060305/BUSINESS03/603050315>
>>
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> And your great, great, great granddad would roll over in his grave if
>>> he knew you were driving at all, instead of riding a horse. Where do
>>> you draw the line about living in the past?
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yup, and GM & Ford because everybody in the country these days are
>>>> driving their pretty new Toyotas and Hondas. How easily people
>>>> forget. My old granddad would roll over in his grave if I ever
>>>> bought a Jap. auto.
>>>>
>>>> Terry

Nathan W. Collier

"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lunch sounds good

was a real pleasure to finally meet you. hopefully we can hit the trails
around helena soon. im going to post some pics/video i took today a bit
later.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141587428_2539@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Lunch sounds good

was a real pleasure to finally meet you. hopefully we can hit the trails
around helena soon. im going to post some pics/video i took today a bit
later.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com

Nathan W. Collier

"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1141587428_2539@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Lunch sounds good

was a real pleasure to finally meet you. hopefully we can hit the trails
around helena soon. im going to post some pics/video i took today a bit
later.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://UtilityOffRoad.com
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://InlineDiesel.com
http://BighornRefrigeration.com
http://ConcealedCarryForum.com