L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Steve,
Where do you get this information telling you the Rubicon's 4.11
Tru-Lok is on the 3.73 size carrier? If so that would be right up there
with their "C" clip idea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Jeep Rubicons come from the factory with thick 4.09 ring gears
> (presumably Dana Spicer) to fit their 3.73-sized air lockers. I have a
> Rubicon locker that's going in my XJ Dana 44 as soon as I get some gears.
>
> I've got a line on a used Dana Spicer 4.09 set with a 1.6875" ring gear.
> I have a 3.54 gear for reference that is 1.4375" deep. Accounting for
> the flange height difference at the carrier break, I'm guessing that the
> 4.09 may indeed be 'thick'. Just want to be sure.
>
> If anyone knows the height of a non-thick 4.09 ring gear, it would help
> me confirm.
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Steve,
Where do you get this information telling you the Rubicon's 4.11
Tru-Lok is on the 3.73 size carrier? If so that would be right up there
with their "C" clip idea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Jeep Rubicons come from the factory with thick 4.09 ring gears
> (presumably Dana Spicer) to fit their 3.73-sized air lockers. I have a
> Rubicon locker that's going in my XJ Dana 44 as soon as I get some gears.
>
> I've got a line on a used Dana Spicer 4.09 set with a 1.6875" ring gear.
> I have a 3.54 gear for reference that is 1.4375" deep. Accounting for
> the flange height difference at the carrier break, I'm guessing that the
> 4.09 may indeed be 'thick'. Just want to be sure.
>
> If anyone knows the height of a non-thick 4.09 ring gear, it would help
> me confirm.
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Steve,
Where do you get this information telling you the Rubicon's 4.11
Tru-Lok is on the 3.73 size carrier? If so that would be right up there
with their "C" clip idea.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Steve wrote:
>
> Jeep Rubicons come from the factory with thick 4.09 ring gears
> (presumably Dana Spicer) to fit their 3.73-sized air lockers. I have a
> Rubicon locker that's going in my XJ Dana 44 as soon as I get some gears.
>
> I've got a line on a used Dana Spicer 4.09 set with a 1.6875" ring gear.
> I have a 3.54 gear for reference that is 1.4375" deep. Accounting for
> the flange height difference at the carrier break, I'm guessing that the
> 4.09 may indeed be 'thick'. Just want to be sure.
>
> If anyone knows the height of a non-thick 4.09 ring gear, it would help
> me confirm.
>
> Steve

Steve

Hi Bill,

My best information is the Tru-Lok sitting on my bench beside an open
carrier that I pulled from an XJ D44 with 3.54 ratio. Same flange depth.

Read this blurb from Randy's R&P:

( http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html )

"Randy's Ring & Pinion, a leading supplier of truck and off-road
differential parts, announces their distribution of the new Yukon Dana
44 4.88 thick gear sets for the 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon"

"Yukon Gear engineered the 4.88 thick gear to mesh seamlessly with the
existing Rubicon lockers, the top-of-the-line Tru-Loc ™ air lockers.
With the computer-designed 4.88, Rubicon owners can push beyond the
limits of the standard 4.10 gear and can move from the 31" stock tires
up to beefy 37" tires. The thick ring gear set, made from high-quality
8620 steel, also works well in older Dana 44 rear-ends with a 3.73 &
down carrier case, eliminating the need for a new carrier case or locker."

The only disadvantage I can see with the need for a thick ring gear is
that they cost a bit more new and are harder to find used. Hassle factor
aside, I don't think there are any performance concerns that rank with
the C-clip.

Steve


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> Where do you get this information telling you the Rubicon's 4.11
> Tru-Lok is on the 3.73 size carrier? If so that would be right up there
> with their "C" clip idea.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Jeep Rubicons come from the factory with thick 4.09 ring gears
>>(presumably Dana Spicer) to fit their 3.73-sized air lockers. I have a
>>Rubicon locker that's going in my XJ Dana 44 as soon as I get some gears.
>>
>>I've got a line on a used Dana Spicer 4.09 set with a 1.6875" ring gear.
>>I have a 3.54 gear for reference that is 1.4375" deep. Accounting for
>>the flange height difference at the carrier break, I'm guessing that the
>>4.09 may indeed be 'thick'. Just want to be sure.
>>
>>If anyone knows the height of a non-thick 4.09 ring gear, it would help
>>me confirm.
>>
>>Steve

Steve

Hi Bill,

My best information is the Tru-Lok sitting on my bench beside an open
carrier that I pulled from an XJ D44 with 3.54 ratio. Same flange depth.

Read this blurb from Randy's R&P:

( http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html )

"Randy's Ring & Pinion, a leading supplier of truck and off-road
differential parts, announces their distribution of the new Yukon Dana
44 4.88 thick gear sets for the 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon"

"Yukon Gear engineered the 4.88 thick gear to mesh seamlessly with the
existing Rubicon lockers, the top-of-the-line Tru-Loc ™ air lockers.
With the computer-designed 4.88, Rubicon owners can push beyond the
limits of the standard 4.10 gear and can move from the 31" stock tires
up to beefy 37" tires. The thick ring gear set, made from high-quality
8620 steel, also works well in older Dana 44 rear-ends with a 3.73 &
down carrier case, eliminating the need for a new carrier case or locker."

The only disadvantage I can see with the need for a thick ring gear is
that they cost a bit more new and are harder to find used. Hassle factor
aside, I don't think there are any performance concerns that rank with
the C-clip.

Steve


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> Where do you get this information telling you the Rubicon's 4.11
> Tru-Lok is on the 3.73 size carrier? If so that would be right up there
> with their "C" clip idea.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Jeep Rubicons come from the factory with thick 4.09 ring gears
>>(presumably Dana Spicer) to fit their 3.73-sized air lockers. I have a
>>Rubicon locker that's going in my XJ Dana 44 as soon as I get some gears.
>>
>>I've got a line on a used Dana Spicer 4.09 set with a 1.6875" ring gear.
>>I have a 3.54 gear for reference that is 1.4375" deep. Accounting for
>>the flange height difference at the carrier break, I'm guessing that the
>>4.09 may indeed be 'thick'. Just want to be sure.
>>
>>If anyone knows the height of a non-thick 4.09 ring gear, it would help
>>me confirm.
>>
>>Steve

Steve

Hi Bill,

My best information is the Tru-Lok sitting on my bench beside an open
carrier that I pulled from an XJ D44 with 3.54 ratio. Same flange depth.

Read this blurb from Randy's R&P:

( http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html )

"Randy's Ring & Pinion, a leading supplier of truck and off-road
differential parts, announces their distribution of the new Yukon Dana
44 4.88 thick gear sets for the 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon"

"Yukon Gear engineered the 4.88 thick gear to mesh seamlessly with the
existing Rubicon lockers, the top-of-the-line Tru-Loc ™ air lockers.
With the computer-designed 4.88, Rubicon owners can push beyond the
limits of the standard 4.10 gear and can move from the 31" stock tires
up to beefy 37" tires. The thick ring gear set, made from high-quality
8620 steel, also works well in older Dana 44 rear-ends with a 3.73 &
down carrier case, eliminating the need for a new carrier case or locker."

The only disadvantage I can see with the need for a thick ring gear is
that they cost a bit more new and are harder to find used. Hassle factor
aside, I don't think there are any performance concerns that rank with
the C-clip.

Steve


L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> Where do you get this information telling you the Rubicon's 4.11
> Tru-Lok is on the 3.73 size carrier? If so that would be right up there
> with their "C" clip idea.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
>
>>Jeep Rubicons come from the factory with thick 4.09 ring gears
>>(presumably Dana Spicer) to fit their 3.73-sized air lockers. I have a
>>Rubicon locker that's going in my XJ Dana 44 as soon as I get some gears.
>>
>>I've got a line on a used Dana Spicer 4.09 set with a 1.6875" ring gear.
>>I have a 3.54 gear for reference that is 1.4375" deep. Accounting for
>>the flange height difference at the carrier break, I'm guessing that the
>>4.09 may indeed be 'thick'. Just want to be sure.
>>
>>If anyone knows the height of a non-thick 4.09 ring gear, it would help
>>me confirm.
>>
>>Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Steve,
Well, I'm still not believing Daimler would be so stupid. If this
Tru-Lok: http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg really is for the 3.73,
then I wouldn't want it because there would be too much leverage just to
one side of the housing causing it to crack like an egg. And the bones
of the Rubicon will litter the trail.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> My best information is the Tru-Lok sitting on my bench beside an open
> carrier that I pulled from an XJ D44 with 3.54 ratio. Same flange depth.
>
> Read this blurb from Randy's R&P:
>
> ( http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html )
>
> "Randy's Ring & Pinion, a leading supplier of truck and off-road
> differential parts, announces their distribution of the new Yukon Dana
> 44 4.88 thick gear sets for the 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon"
>
> "Yukon Gear engineered the 4.88 thick gear to mesh seamlessly with the
> existing Rubicon lockers, the top-of-the-line Tru-Loc ™ air lockers.
> With the computer-designed 4.88, Rubicon owners can push beyond the
> limits of the standard 4.10 gear and can move from the 31" stock tires
> up to beefy 37" tires. The thick ring gear set, made from high-quality
> 8620 steel, also works well in older Dana 44 rear-ends with a 3.73 &
> down carrier case, eliminating the need for a new carrier case or locker."
>
> The only disadvantage I can see with the need for a thick ring gear is
> that they cost a bit more new and are harder to find used. Hassle factor
> aside, I don't think there are any performance concerns that rank with
> the C-clip.
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Steve,
Well, I'm still not believing Daimler would be so stupid. If this
Tru-Lok: http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg really is for the 3.73,
then I wouldn't want it because there would be too much leverage just to
one side of the housing causing it to crack like an egg. And the bones
of the Rubicon will litter the trail.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> My best information is the Tru-Lok sitting on my bench beside an open
> carrier that I pulled from an XJ D44 with 3.54 ratio. Same flange depth.
>
> Read this blurb from Randy's R&P:
>
> ( http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html )
>
> "Randy's Ring & Pinion, a leading supplier of truck and off-road
> differential parts, announces their distribution of the new Yukon Dana
> 44 4.88 thick gear sets for the 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon"
>
> "Yukon Gear engineered the 4.88 thick gear to mesh seamlessly with the
> existing Rubicon lockers, the top-of-the-line Tru-Loc ™ air lockers.
> With the computer-designed 4.88, Rubicon owners can push beyond the
> limits of the standard 4.10 gear and can move from the 31" stock tires
> up to beefy 37" tires. The thick ring gear set, made from high-quality
> 8620 steel, also works well in older Dana 44 rear-ends with a 3.73 &
> down carrier case, eliminating the need for a new carrier case or locker."
>
> The only disadvantage I can see with the need for a thick ring gear is
> that they cost a bit more new and are harder to find used. Hassle factor
> aside, I don't think there are any performance concerns that rank with
> the C-clip.
>
> Steve

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Steve,
Well, I'm still not believing Daimler would be so stupid. If this
Tru-Lok: http://www.----------.com/TruLok.jpg really is for the 3.73,
then I wouldn't want it because there would be too much leverage just to
one side of the housing causing it to crack like an egg. And the bones
of the Rubicon will litter the trail.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Steve wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> My best information is the Tru-Lok sitting on my bench beside an open
> carrier that I pulled from an XJ D44 with 3.54 ratio. Same flange depth.
>
> Read this blurb from Randy's R&P:
>
> ( http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/aboutyukondana.html )
>
> "Randy's Ring & Pinion, a leading supplier of truck and off-road
> differential parts, announces their distribution of the new Yukon Dana
> 44 4.88 thick gear sets for the 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon"
>
> "Yukon Gear engineered the 4.88 thick gear to mesh seamlessly with the
> existing Rubicon lockers, the top-of-the-line Tru-Loc ™ air lockers.
> With the computer-designed 4.88, Rubicon owners can push beyond the
> limits of the standard 4.10 gear and can move from the 31" stock tires
> up to beefy 37" tires. The thick ring gear set, made from high-quality
> 8620 steel, also works well in older Dana 44 rear-ends with a 3.73 &
> down carrier case, eliminating the need for a new carrier case or locker."
>
> The only disadvantage I can see with the need for a thick ring gear is
> that they cost a bit more new and are harder to find used. Hassle factor
> aside, I don't think there are any performance concerns that rank with
> the C-clip.
>
> Steve

JimG

I, (from the old school) stand corrected. :-)

JimG

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40284E74.E6D3856@***.net...
> Hi Jim,
> That's the way I've learned it, except Steve here, pointed me to
> this no name manufacturer making a thicker ring gear. I guess hoping to
> sell it to TJ buyers that mistakenly bought the 3.73s and it's carrier:
> http://www.ring-pinion.com/about/4.8...hlightsweb.pdf I
> wouldn't buy it unless someone like Richmond made it.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> JimG wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure where you are going with this, but a 4.09 for a 44 is a
> > 4.09... there is no thick or thin version. They (ring gear) have to be
> > matched to the pinion and carrier... there is no mix/match strategy.
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries