Dana 18 oil change?
Hi
I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana 18 transfer has been empty for oil. Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from
that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Henrik wrote: > > Hi > > I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana > 18 transfer has been empty for oil. > Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? > > I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. > > Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from
that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Henrik wrote: > > Hi > > I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana > 18 transfer has been empty for oil. > Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? > > I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. > > Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from
that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Henrik wrote: > > Hi > > I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana > 18 transfer has been empty for oil. > Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? > > I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. > > Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
"Henrik" <hbl@12move.dk> wrote in message news:<cn8c1r$209q$1@news.cybercity.dk>...
> Hi > > I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana > 18 transfer has been empty for oil. > Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? > > I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. > > > > Henrik go to earlycj5.com they will help you. there is a cover on floor by passenger seat that unbolts. there is a plug on side of tcase that you can use with a small hose to fill. tcase & tranny share oil so drain tranny too. fill tranny first (there is also an inspection cover for it too) then fill tcase. |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
"Henrik" <hbl@12move.dk> wrote in message news:<cn8c1r$209q$1@news.cybercity.dk>...
> Hi > > I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana > 18 transfer has been empty for oil. > Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? > > I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. > > > > Henrik go to earlycj5.com they will help you. there is a cover on floor by passenger seat that unbolts. there is a plug on side of tcase that you can use with a small hose to fill. tcase & tranny share oil so drain tranny too. fill tranny first (there is also an inspection cover for it too) then fill tcase. |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
"Henrik" <hbl@12move.dk> wrote in message news:<cn8c1r$209q$1@news.cybercity.dk>...
> Hi > > I have been installing a handbrake to my M38A1, and in the process the Dana > 18 transfer has been empty for oil. > Where should i put new oil in, and how to figure out when there is enough? > > I have spent the last hour searhing google, wothout any results. > > > > Henrik go to earlycj5.com they will help you. there is a cover on floor by passenger seat that unbolts. there is a plug on side of tcase that you can use with a small hose to fill. tcase & tranny share oil so drain tranny too. fill tranny first (there is also an inspection cover for it too) then fill tcase. |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4197C336.90174CA8@cox.net... > Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from > that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- Thanks both of you, Bill for always having a explaining picture ready and Maxx for the very fine explanation. My jeep is rebuild with an BorgWarner T65 automatic so there must be some kind of sealing between t-case and tranny, since the Dana 18 properly don't like automatic fluid? Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4197C336.90174CA8@cox.net... > Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from > that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- Thanks both of you, Bill for always having a explaining picture ready and Maxx for the very fine explanation. My jeep is rebuild with an BorgWarner T65 automatic so there must be some kind of sealing between t-case and tranny, since the Dana 18 properly don't like automatic fluid? Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4197C336.90174CA8@cox.net... > Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from > that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- Thanks both of you, Bill for always having a explaining picture ready and Maxx for the very fine explanation. My jeep is rebuild with an BorgWarner T65 automatic so there must be some kind of sealing between t-case and tranny, since the Dana 18 properly don't like automatic fluid? Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the
transmissions share the oil. They don't. Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Henrik wrote: > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:4197C336.90174CA8@cox.net... > > Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from > > that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > Thanks both of you, Bill for always having a explaining picture ready and > Maxx for the very fine explanation. > My jeep is rebuild with an BorgWarner T65 automatic so there must be some > kind of sealing between t-case and tranny, since the Dana 18 properly don't > like automatic fluid? > > Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the
transmissions share the oil. They don't. Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Henrik wrote: > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:4197C336.90174CA8@cox.net... > > Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from > > that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > Thanks both of you, Bill for always having a explaining picture ready and > Maxx for the very fine explanation. > My jeep is rebuild with an BorgWarner T65 automatic so there must be some > kind of sealing between t-case and tranny, since the Dana 18 properly don't > like automatic fluid? > > Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the
transmissions share the oil. They don't. Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Henrik wrote: > > "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > news:4197C336.90174CA8@cox.net... > > Frame side of the case. As much as it will hold being filled from > > that fill plug: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > > mailto:-------------------- > > Thanks both of you, Bill for always having a explaining picture ready and > Maxx for the very fine explanation. > My jeep is rebuild with an BorgWarner T65 automatic so there must be some > kind of sealing between t-case and tranny, since the Dana 18 properly don't > like automatic fluid? > > Henrik |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Hi Mike,
The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Mike Romain wrote: > > I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the > transmissions share the oil. > > They don't. > > Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' > have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Hi Mike,
The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Mike Romain wrote: > > I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the > transmissions share the oil. > > They don't. > > Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' > have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Hi Mike,
The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Mike Romain wrote: > > I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the > transmissions share the oil. > > They don't. > > Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' > have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
You may see here that, there's no adapter used between the
transmission and transfer: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 > transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: > http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from > then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at > the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, > as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer > as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His > transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International > Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to > fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
You may see here that, there's no adapter used between the
transmission and transfer: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 > transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: > http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from > then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at > the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, > as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer > as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His > transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International > Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to > fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
You may see here that, there's no adapter used between the
transmission and transfer: http://www.----------.com/Dana18.jpg "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 > transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: > http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from > then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at > the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, > as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer > as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His > transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International > Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to > fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Bill, I looked real close at the diagrams and see you are right for
those two combinations. Most of the others are all separate and do not share oil. Does the T14 or 90 still have a stupid button vent? If so, the 'both' the tranny and T-case can easily get filled with water.... Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 > transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: > http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from > then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at > the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, > as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer > as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His > transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International > Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to > fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the > > transmissions share the oil. > > > > They don't. > > > > Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' > > have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Bill, I looked real close at the diagrams and see you are right for
those two combinations. Most of the others are all separate and do not share oil. Does the T14 or 90 still have a stupid button vent? If so, the 'both' the tranny and T-case can easily get filled with water.... Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 > transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: > http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from > then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at > the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, > as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer > as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His > transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International > Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to > fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the > > transmissions share the oil. > > > > They don't. > > > > Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' > > have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Bill, I looked real close at the diagrams and see you are right for
those two combinations. Most of the others are all separate and do not share oil. Does the T14 or 90 still have a stupid button vent? If so, the 'both' the tranny and T-case can easily get filled with water.... Mike "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote: > > Hi Mike, > The Borg Warner, T-90 and T-14, share oil with their Dana 18 or 20 > transfers. Pencils pointing to common holes: > http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5b.jpg We must fill them both and from > then on only top off the transmission, as the transfer will always be at > the top of the fill plug. That may be also true for the Original Poster, > as his Borg Warner T-65 automatic may be bolted directly to the transfer > as it also takes ninety weight: http://www.jpoils.co.uk/agri_q8.php His > transfer is painted competition orange, identify it as an International > Harvester tractor or Scout. Remember, your transfer uses an adapter to > fit your transmission making it possible to have a seal. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Mike Romain wrote: > > > > I don't know why folks think the t-cases that are hooked to the > > transmissions share the oil. > > > > They don't. > > > > Same for the t-case has a high water vent. Jeep transmissions do 'not' > > have a high water vent so can and do get filled with water easy. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Hi Mike,
I can't remember, mine blew up while they were behind the Buick V6, when I switched to the Muncie M-22 Corvette four speed, but the heavy wheel and foot blew that a couple of times before it got the Chevy: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg They surely would have used a vent if they were only two wheel drive, but as you see there's no need for them with that giant water inlet you pointed out on my Dana 18: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg I use a Dana 20 now, and keep it out of low range, where the breaking point now, is my front driveshaft, you may see dangling: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Mike Romain wrote: > > Bill, I looked real close at the diagrams and see you are right for > those two combinations. > > Most of the others are all separate and do not share oil. > > Does the T14 or 90 still have a stupid button vent? If so, the 'both' > the tranny and T-case can easily get filled with water.... > > Mike |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Hi Mike,
I can't remember, mine blew up while they were behind the Buick V6, when I switched to the Muncie M-22 Corvette four speed, but the heavy wheel and foot blew that a couple of times before it got the Chevy: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg They surely would have used a vent if they were only two wheel drive, but as you see there's no need for them with that giant water inlet you pointed out on my Dana 18: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg I use a Dana 20 now, and keep it out of low range, where the breaking point now, is my front driveshaft, you may see dangling: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Mike Romain wrote: > > Bill, I looked real close at the diagrams and see you are right for > those two combinations. > > Most of the others are all separate and do not share oil. > > Does the T14 or 90 still have a stupid button vent? If so, the 'both' > the tranny and T-case can easily get filled with water.... > > Mike |
Re: Dana 18 oil change?
Hi Mike,
I can't remember, mine blew up while they were behind the Buick V6, when I switched to the Muncie M-22 Corvette four speed, but the heavy wheel and foot blew that a couple of times before it got the Chevy: http://www.----------.com/slave.jpg They surely would have used a vent if they were only two wheel drive, but as you see there's no need for them with that giant water inlet you pointed out on my Dana 18: http://www.----------.com/dana18cj5.jpg I use a Dana 20 now, and keep it out of low range, where the breaking point now, is my front driveshaft, you may see dangling: http://www.----------.com/pismo.htm God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Mike Romain wrote: > > Bill, I looked real close at the diagrams and see you are right for > those two combinations. > > Most of the others are all separate and do not share oil. > > Does the T14 or 90 still have a stupid button vent? If so, the 'both' > the tranny and T-case can easily get filled with water.... > > Mike |
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