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Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:DGamb.739$Md5.710@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. .. > There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were > pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it > this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? The key items that makes the 8.8 stronger are its larger diameter axle shafts and larger ring & pinion gears. I would assume its axle housing is stronger too. The 8.8 is a better conversion for a CJ/YJ because it's easier to bolt up due to them all being leaf spring designs. The 8.8 needs quite a bit more work (adding brackets for the control arms and trackbar) to prepare it for a coil sprung TJ. Jerry > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's > > axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's > > tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a > > c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the > > other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the > > shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the > > c-clip itself. > > > > The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the > > axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and > > wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will > > at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing. > > > > So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with > > the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that > > the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip > > goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case). > > > > So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the > > recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far > > stronger than expected. > > > > Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers > > and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for > > other applications. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > "GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > > news:nl3mb.11221$0M6.15635@news1.mts.net... > > I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford 8.8. > > I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap for the > > d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net to do the > > swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around here. > > > > But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the > > point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in the > > d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if it > > still uses the c-clips. > > > > And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators work? > > > > Mike > > 98 TJ SE > > 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs > > A bunch of home-made stuff. > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." > -- Dave Barry > > Pronunciation: 'jEp > Function: noun > Date: 1940 > > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in > World War II. > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) > __________________________________________________ _________ > |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:DGamb.739$Md5.710@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. .. > There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were > pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it > this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? The key items that makes the 8.8 stronger are its larger diameter axle shafts and larger ring & pinion gears. I would assume its axle housing is stronger too. The 8.8 is a better conversion for a CJ/YJ because it's easier to bolt up due to them all being leaf spring designs. The 8.8 needs quite a bit more work (adding brackets for the control arms and trackbar) to prepare it for a coil sprung TJ. Jerry > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's > > axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's > > tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a > > c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the > > other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the > > shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the > > c-clip itself. > > > > The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the > > axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and > > wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will > > at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing. > > > > So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with > > the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that > > the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip > > goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case). > > > > So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the > > recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far > > stronger than expected. > > > > Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers > > and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for > > other applications. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > "GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > > news:nl3mb.11221$0M6.15635@news1.mts.net... > > I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford 8.8. > > I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap for the > > d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net to do the > > swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around here. > > > > But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the > > point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in the > > d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if it > > still uses the c-clips. > > > > And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators work? > > > > Mike > > 98 TJ SE > > 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs > > A bunch of home-made stuff. > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." > -- Dave Barry > > Pronunciation: 'jEp > Function: noun > Date: 1940 > > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in > World War II. > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) > __________________________________________________ _________ > |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
"twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:DGamb.739$Md5.710@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. .. > There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were > pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it > this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? The key items that makes the 8.8 stronger are its larger diameter axle shafts and larger ring & pinion gears. I would assume its axle housing is stronger too. The 8.8 is a better conversion for a CJ/YJ because it's easier to bolt up due to them all being leaf spring designs. The 8.8 needs quite a bit more work (adding brackets for the control arms and trackbar) to prepare it for a coil sprung TJ. Jerry > > Jerry Bransford wrote: > > That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's > > axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old wive's > > tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how a > > c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on the > > other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when the > > shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at the > > c-clip itself. > > > > The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if the > > axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and > > wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which will > > at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing. > > > > So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's with > > the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and that > > the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the c-clip > > goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case). > > > > So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the > > recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far > > stronger than expected. > > > > Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag racers > > and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for > > other applications. > > > > Jerry > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > "GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message > > news:nl3mb.11221$0M6.15635@news1.mts.net... > > I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford 8.8. > > I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap for the > > d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net to do the > > swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around here. > > > > But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the > > point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in the > > d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if it > > still uses the c-clips. > > > > And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators work? > > > > Mike > > 98 TJ SE > > 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs > > A bunch of home-made stuff. > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." > -- Dave Barry > > Pronunciation: 'jEp > Function: noun > Date: 1940 > > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in > World War II. > > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) > __________________________________________________ _________ > |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
GzrGlide wrote:
> I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford > 8.8. I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap > for the d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net > to do the swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around > here. > > But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the > point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in > the d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if > it still uses the c-clips. > > And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators work? > > Mike > 98 TJ SE > 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs > A bunch of home-made stuff. because they are 31 spline instead of 27. im going to get rid of my NON C-CLIP dana 35 for one. and it will be an upgrade, no question.. the C-CLIPS do not fail! the shafts of the 35 do. |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
GzrGlide wrote:
> I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford > 8.8. I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap > for the d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net > to do the swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around > here. > > But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the > point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in > the d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if > it still uses the c-clips. > > And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators work? > > Mike > 98 TJ SE > 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs > A bunch of home-made stuff. because they are 31 spline instead of 27. im going to get rid of my NON C-CLIP dana 35 for one. and it will be an upgrade, no question.. the C-CLIPS do not fail! the shafts of the 35 do. |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
GzrGlide wrote:
> I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford > 8.8. I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap > for the d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net > to do the swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around > here. > > But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the > point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in > the d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if > it still uses the c-clips. > > And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators work? > > Mike > 98 TJ SE > 3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs > A bunch of home-made stuff. because they are 31 spline instead of 27. im going to get rid of my NON C-CLIP dana 35 for one. and it will be an upgrade, no question.. the C-CLIPS do not fail! the shafts of the 35 do. |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Thanks!
Jerry Bransford wrote: > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message > news:DGamb.739$Md5.710@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. .. > >>There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were >>pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it >>this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? > > > The key items that makes the 8.8 stronger are its larger diameter axle > shafts and larger ring & pinion gears. I would assume its axle housing is > stronger too. The 8.8 is a better conversion for a CJ/YJ because it's > easier to bolt up due to them all being leaf spring designs. The 8.8 needs > quite a bit more work (adding brackets for the control arms and trackbar) to > prepare it for a coil sprung TJ. > > Jerry > >>Jerry Bransford wrote: >> >>>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's >>>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old > > wive's > >>>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how > > a > >>>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on > > the > >>>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when > > the > >>>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at > > the > >>>c-clip itself. >>> >>>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if > > the > >>>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and >>>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which > > will > >>>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing. >>> >>>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's > > with > >>>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and > > that > >>>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the > > c-clip > >>>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case). >>> >>>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the >>>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far >>>stronger than expected. >>> >>>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag > > racers > >>>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for >>>other applications. >>> >>>Jerry >>>-- >>>Jerry Bransford >>>To email, remove 'me' from my email address >>>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL >>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>>"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message >>>news:nl3mb.11221$0M6.15635@news1.mts.net... >>>I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford > > 8.8. > >>>I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap for the >>>d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net to do > > the > >>>swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around here. >>> >>>But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the >>>point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in > > the > >>>d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if it >>>still uses the c-clips. >>> >>>And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators > > work? > >>>Mike >>>98 TJ SE >>>3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs >>>A bunch of home-made stuff. >>> >>> >> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >>03 TJ Rubicon >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ >> > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Thanks!
Jerry Bransford wrote: > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message > news:DGamb.739$Md5.710@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. .. > >>There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were >>pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it >>this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? > > > The key items that makes the 8.8 stronger are its larger diameter axle > shafts and larger ring & pinion gears. I would assume its axle housing is > stronger too. The 8.8 is a better conversion for a CJ/YJ because it's > easier to bolt up due to them all being leaf spring designs. The 8.8 needs > quite a bit more work (adding brackets for the control arms and trackbar) to > prepare it for a coil sprung TJ. > > Jerry > >>Jerry Bransford wrote: >> >>>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's >>>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old > > wive's > >>>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how > > a > >>>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on > > the > >>>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when > > the > >>>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at > > the > >>>c-clip itself. >>> >>>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if > > the > >>>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and >>>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which > > will > >>>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing. >>> >>>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's > > with > >>>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and > > that > >>>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the > > c-clip > >>>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case). >>> >>>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the >>>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far >>>stronger than expected. >>> >>>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag > > racers > >>>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for >>>other applications. >>> >>>Jerry >>>-- >>>Jerry Bransford >>>To email, remove 'me' from my email address >>>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL >>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>>"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message >>>news:nl3mb.11221$0M6.15635@news1.mts.net... >>>I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford > > 8.8. > >>>I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap for the >>>d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net to do > > the > >>>swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around here. >>> >>>But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the >>>point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in > > the > >>>d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if it >>>still uses the c-clips. >>> >>>And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators > > work? > >>>Mike >>>98 TJ SE >>>3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs >>>A bunch of home-made stuff. >>> >>> >> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >>03 TJ Rubicon >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ >> > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
Thanks!
Jerry Bransford wrote: > "twaldron" <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message > news:DGamb.739$Md5.710@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com. .. > >>There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were >>pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it >>this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? > > > The key items that makes the 8.8 stronger are its larger diameter axle > shafts and larger ring & pinion gears. I would assume its axle housing is > stronger too. The 8.8 is a better conversion for a CJ/YJ because it's > easier to bolt up due to them all being leaf spring designs. The 8.8 needs > quite a bit more work (adding brackets for the control arms and trackbar) to > prepare it for a coil sprung TJ. > > Jerry > >>Jerry Bransford wrote: >> >>>That they're a c-clip design does not diminish the strength of the 8.8's >>>axle shaft which is stronger than that of the Dana 44. It's an old > > wive's > >>>tale propogated by those that are either naive or know nothing about how > > a > >>>c-clip axle works. Remember that the c-clip is inside the housing, on > > the > >>>other side of the splines that are held by the gear carrier. So when > > the > >>>shafts break, they break between the housing and the hub flange, not at > > the > >>>c-clip itself. >>> >>>The problem with c-clip axles is not with the c-clip itself, its that if > > the > >>>axle shaft does break, there is nothing left to hold the axle shaft and >>>wheel to the housing... except if there is a disk brake caliper which > > will > >>>at least hold the broken shaft from sliding out of the housing. >>> >>>So with a Dana 35c, the weakness is not with the c-clip itself, it's > > with > >>>the skinny axle shafts (weaker housing, smalller ring gear, etc.) and > > that > >>>the axle will slide out if the axle shaft breaks. The part where the > > c-clip > >>>goes doesn't break, that is protected by the gear carrier (case). >>> >>>So a Ford 8.8 is actually quite a bit stronger than a Dana 44, like the >>>recent Warn axle tests confirmed. In fact, Warn said the 8.8 was far >>>stronger than expected. >>> >>>Finally, the 8.8's c-clip eliminator kit is only designed for drag > > racers > >>>and the manufacturers of that kit strongly recommend against its use for >>>other applications. >>> >>>Jerry >>>-- >>>Jerry Bransford >>>To email, remove 'me' from my email address >>>KC6TAY, PP-ASEL >>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>>"GzrGlide" <GzrGlide02@yahoo.ca> wrote in message >>>news:nl3mb.11221$0M6.15635@news1.mts.net... >>>I'm starting to do some research into changing the D35c axle to a Ford > > 8.8. > >>>I'm looking at the 8.8 because it seems to be a very common swap for the >>>d35c on Tjs, because there's a ton of info out there on the net to do > > the > >>>swap and because I could probably get one fairly easily around here. >>> >>>But....I just read on a website that the 8.8 uses c-clips. So what's the >>>point of swapping it out. I thought the c-clips were the problem area in > > the > >>>d35c. Why would I want to go to the trouble of switchng to an 8.8 if it >>>still uses the c-clips. >>> >>>And can someone give me a detailed answer about how c-clip eliminators > > work? > >>>Mike >>>98 TJ SE >>>3" Redneck Engineering Lift, 30 x 9.5 BFG ATs >>>A bunch of home-made stuff. >>> >>> >> >>-- >>________________________________________________ ___________ >>tw >>03 TJ Rubicon >>01 XJ Sport >> >>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." >>-- Dave Barry >> >>Pronunciation: 'jEp >>Function: noun >>Date: 1940 >> >>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) >>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, >>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in >>World War II. >> >>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html >>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) >>________________________________________________ ___________ >> > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose) A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: D35c to Ford 8.8 Swap. Why bother?
The AMC 20 is stronger than the Dana 44, once like the 44, they
have the one piece upgrade: http://www.ring-pinion.com/tech/tech.asp?page=g0898 God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ twaldron wrote: > > There's some info. I didn't have. I thought the d44 and the 8.8 were > pretty comparable. What makes the 8.8 stonger than the d44? Also, it > this a logical conversion for a CJ with a 20 axle? |
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