Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee
02-23-2004, 01:35 PM
#51
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
It says "In order to remove the oil pan, the passenger side motor
mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
you removed?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jbcrow wrote:
>
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
you removed?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jbcrow wrote:
>
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
02-23-2004, 01:35 PM
#52
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
It says "In order to remove the oil pan, the passenger side motor
mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
you removed?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jbcrow wrote:
>
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
you removed?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jbcrow wrote:
>
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
02-23-2004, 07:23 PM
#53
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
I used a bottle jack between the axle and the block. On my 4.2 there is 3
bolts into the block and 2 on the mount. Make sure it's free.
And to the VCG guys... yes, sometimes it IS the RMS (or something other than
the VCG).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"jbcrow" <jbcrow@flex.com> wrote in message
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> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message
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> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
bolts into the block and 2 on the mount. Make sure it's free.
And to the VCG guys... yes, sometimes it IS the RMS (or something other than
the VCG).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"jbcrow" <jbcrow@flex.com> wrote in message
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> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message
news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
02-23-2004, 07:23 PM
#54
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
I used a bottle jack between the axle and the block. On my 4.2 there is 3
bolts into the block and 2 on the mount. Make sure it's free.
And to the VCG guys... yes, sometimes it IS the RMS (or something other than
the VCG).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"jbcrow" <jbcrow@flex.com> wrote in message
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> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message
news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
bolts into the block and 2 on the mount. Make sure it's free.
And to the VCG guys... yes, sometimes it IS the RMS (or something other than
the VCG).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"jbcrow" <jbcrow@flex.com> wrote in message
news:ebd4f35d.0402230149.5bdc5605@posting.google.c om...
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message
news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
02-23-2004, 07:23 PM
#55
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
I used a bottle jack between the axle and the block. On my 4.2 there is 3
bolts into the block and 2 on the mount. Make sure it's free.
And to the VCG guys... yes, sometimes it IS the RMS (or something other than
the VCG).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"jbcrow" <jbcrow@flex.com> wrote in message
news:ebd4f35d.0402230149.5bdc5605@posting.google.c om...
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message
news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
bolts into the block and 2 on the mount. Make sure it's free.
And to the VCG guys... yes, sometimes it IS the RMS (or something other than
the VCG).
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
"jbcrow" <jbcrow@flex.com> wrote in message
news:ebd4f35d.0402230149.5bdc5605@posting.google.c om...
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message
news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
>
> Thanks again,
> JB
02-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#56
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:49:53 UTC jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote:
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
I was able to work mine out by removing the starter and raising the
rear of the engine (unbolt the tranny mount and raise it with the
transmission. It still took some twisting and wiggling. Funny thing
is, it always seemed to slide back in with no problem - it was only
stubborn coming out. I think the starter has to come loose in any
event and I had the jack stands under the frame so that the front axle
dropped quite a bit. I doubt it would have cleared the axle with
weight on it if the stands were under the axle.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
I was able to work mine out by removing the starter and raising the
rear of the engine (unbolt the tranny mount and raise it with the
transmission. It still took some twisting and wiggling. Funny thing
is, it always seemed to slide back in with no problem - it was only
stubborn coming out. I think the starter has to come loose in any
event and I had the jack stands under the frame so that the front axle
dropped quite a bit. I doubt it would have cleared the axle with
weight on it if the stands were under the axle.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
02-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#57
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:49:53 UTC jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote:
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
I was able to work mine out by removing the starter and raising the
rear of the engine (unbolt the tranny mount and raise it with the
transmission. It still took some twisting and wiggling. Funny thing
is, it always seemed to slide back in with no problem - it was only
stubborn coming out. I think the starter has to come loose in any
event and I had the jack stands under the frame so that the front axle
dropped quite a bit. I doubt it would have cleared the axle with
weight on it if the stands were under the axle.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
I was able to work mine out by removing the starter and raising the
rear of the engine (unbolt the tranny mount and raise it with the
transmission. It still took some twisting and wiggling. Funny thing
is, it always seemed to slide back in with no problem - it was only
stubborn coming out. I think the starter has to come loose in any
event and I had the jack stands under the frame so that the front axle
dropped quite a bit. I doubt it would have cleared the axle with
weight on it if the stands were under the axle.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
02-23-2004, 10:33 PM
#58
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 09:49:53 UTC jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote:
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
I was able to work mine out by removing the starter and raising the
rear of the engine (unbolt the tranny mount and raise it with the
transmission. It still took some twisting and wiggling. Funny thing
is, it always seemed to slide back in with no problem - it was only
stubborn coming out. I think the starter has to come loose in any
event and I had the jack stands under the frame so that the front axle
dropped quite a bit. I doubt it would have cleared the axle with
weight on it if the stands were under the axle.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> jbcrow@flex.com (jbcrow) wrote in message news:<ebd4f35d.0402190152.1cfaa180@posting.google. com>...
> > I'm looking to replace the rear crankshaft seal on a 90 XJ 4.0. Anyone
> > ever done one of these? It doesn't look too complicated (this is what
> > I've said with almost every repair I've ever undertaken!!!). Anything
> > in particular to watch for?
> >
> > TIA
> > JB
> I want to first thank everyone for all the help. I took your advice
> and checked out and replaced the VCG. Unfortunately there was no
> change. On to the rear crank seal. Only problem now is getting the oil
> pan out. It was a bear getting the pan separated but with some work it
> came apart. Took off 2 nuts for the motor mount, but the engine
> doesn't want to move without taking the body with it. Am I missing
> something? Do I need to remove the mounts on both sides? Will be back
> at it tommorow.
I was able to work mine out by removing the starter and raising the
rear of the engine (unbolt the tranny mount and raise it with the
transmission. It still took some twisting and wiggling. Funny thing
is, it always seemed to slide back in with no problem - it was only
stubborn coming out. I think the starter has to come loose in any
event and I had the jack stands under the frame so that the front axle
dropped quite a bit. I doubt it would have cleared the axle with
weight on it if the stands were under the axle.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
02-24-2004, 03:39 AM
#59
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<403A47EC.D5E0AF84@***.net>...
> It says "In order to remove the oil pan, the passenger side motor
> mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
> you removed?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
Thanks,
Had the right mount, had the wrong spot for the jack stands. I had
put the stands on the lower control arms and this restricted the
engine movement off the mount. Moved the stands, moved the engine.
JB
> It says "In order to remove the oil pan, the passenger side motor
> mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
> you removed?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
Thanks,
Had the right mount, had the wrong spot for the jack stands. I had
put the stands on the lower control arms and this restricted the
engine movement off the mount. Moved the stands, moved the engine.
JB
02-24-2004, 03:39 AM
#60
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Re: Crank seal replace - 90 Cherokee - Not the VCG
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<403A47EC.D5E0AF84@***.net>...
> It says "In order to remove the oil pan, the passenger side motor
> mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
> you removed?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
Thanks,
Had the right mount, had the wrong spot for the jack stands. I had
put the stands on the lower control arms and this restricted the
engine movement off the mount. Moved the stands, moved the engine.
JB
> It says "In order to remove the oil pan, the passenger side motor
> mount must be removed.": http://www.neow.org/rms1.html Is that the side
> you removed?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
>
Thanks,
Had the right mount, had the wrong spot for the jack stands. I had
put the stands on the lower control arms and this restricted the
engine movement off the mount. Moved the stands, moved the engine.
JB