Re: Coyote Canyon Confusion Clearly Countered
Bill: There is no grazing there now. If you live near Anza you might have
heard the story of the canyons stolen wild horses. Up until this summer there was a herd of about 35 wild horse living in the top part of the canyon. It appears the park manager made a deal with a well-known local snake oil salesman to round them up and take them for personal property. Considerable local anger existed but the park policy now is to remove all non indigenous livestock. I have not been down the canyon this year yet and would like some company. We really should organize a weekend ride spending Saturday night at the Willows for a BBQ. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F8494E3.F415982E@cox.net... > Bummer! I thought I heard somewhere they were planning to open it > up, as it definitely a treat to drive the length, knowing you're > following the foot steps of Anza. Maybe, it's good that it's closed, as > I remember the farmers graze their cattle there, but I'll say again, the > Jeepers today have really missed a treat. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Michael Stevens wrote: > > > > This post originally entitled "Coyote Canyon now Open to Desert Floor" was > > perhaps deceptive in its title as it has led to confusion and if indeed I am > > at fault I apologize for my lack of exactness. Loving the Coyote Canyon run > > as much as I do, not solely because of its local to my own habitat, but for > > its archaeological and historical significance, its geographical and > > geological beauty, its unique riparian habitats, its demanding trail, its > > elevation changes of over 4000' and its vistas of plains stretching into > > Mexico framed by the Santa Rosa mountains, its versified array of cacti and > > the possibility of fatal collision with pronghorn sheep whose demise might > > open the Willows wetland to some good mud jeeping, I will take the effort > > here to expand on my post taking pains to be more clear and coherent. > > > > Coyote Canyon is within the Peninsular Ranges geomorphic province controlled > > by the San Jacinto fault. The creek bed that follows the fault separates the > > San Ysidro and the Santa Rosa mountain ranges. The canyon extends 36 miles > > North-West from Borrego Springs, a town in the center of Borrego Springs > > State Park in San Diego County to Anza in Riverside County. > > > > Three clusters (as Jeff said) of desert willow, know as Lower, Middle and > > Upper Willows are found along the year-round Coyote Creek in the central of > > the canyon. California fan palms, cottonwoods, mesquite and acacia are also > > abundant. The route along the creek bed is not static. Summer floods > > dramatically alter the shape and route of the road near the Willows and over > > the rugged side trail into Collins Valley. A 3.1 mile segment of the road > > between Upper and Middle Willows is permanently closed to vehicles. Also the > > North-West (top) half of the canyon above the Willows is closed to all users > > (even hiking Sierra Club members) from June 1 to September 30. My post > > specifically related to the northern part of the canyon from Upper Willows > > to Anza. Because of the closures noted above this trail is only accessible > > from Anza and then only from October 1 thru the end of May. It is this > > section that opened just last week. I am sorry if I led some to think the > > 3.1 miles Willows section was open. It is not. > > > > A benefit of the closure of the Willows is to have completely stopped thru > > traffic. Before the Willows was closed a "round trip" existed from Borrego > > Springs to Warner Springs, Aguanga, Anza and back to Borrego Springs. Also > > visitors to Borrego Springs coming from Palm Springs might use this route > > and at one time this Jeep trail was maintained and passable by pickup truck. > > Today not only is the road not maintained the park service seem to > > discourage passage and do not repair even major washouts. This makes the > > trail demanding and deserted. Points of interest along the trail include The > > Anza Monument, Nance Canyon, Turkey Track Canyon, Tule Canyon, Horse Canyon, > > Alder Canyon, Fig Tree Valley and Bailey's Cabin. Bailey's cabin is restored > > and is kept stocked by visiting Jeep groups with emergency food supplies for > > persons who get stranded. The Anza monument honors Juan Bautista de Anza the > > Spanish captain of the epic 1775 expedition from Mexico to San Francisco who > > was the first non-native to pass through the canyon as well as being the > > first European to enter California by land. The name "Borrego" of course is > > Spanish for sheep and the combined name "Anza-Borrego" probably relates to > > the lack of women Anza took with him on his journey. Today, thankfully we > > have Jeep chicks. > > > > I hope this clarifies the situation. |
Re: Coyote Canyon Confusion Clearly Countered
Bill: There is no grazing there now. If you live near Anza you might have
heard the story of the canyons stolen wild horses. Up until this summer there was a herd of about 35 wild horse living in the top part of the canyon. It appears the park manager made a deal with a well-known local snake oil salesman to round them up and take them for personal property. Considerable local anger existed but the park policy now is to remove all non indigenous livestock. I have not been down the canyon this year yet and would like some company. We really should organize a weekend ride spending Saturday night at the Willows for a BBQ. "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:3F8494E3.F415982E@cox.net... > Bummer! I thought I heard somewhere they were planning to open it > up, as it definitely a treat to drive the length, knowing you're > following the foot steps of Anza. Maybe, it's good that it's closed, as > I remember the farmers graze their cattle there, but I'll say again, the > Jeepers today have really missed a treat. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Michael Stevens wrote: > > > > This post originally entitled "Coyote Canyon now Open to Desert Floor" was > > perhaps deceptive in its title as it has led to confusion and if indeed I am > > at fault I apologize for my lack of exactness. Loving the Coyote Canyon run > > as much as I do, not solely because of its local to my own habitat, but for > > its archaeological and historical significance, its geographical and > > geological beauty, its unique riparian habitats, its demanding trail, its > > elevation changes of over 4000' and its vistas of plains stretching into > > Mexico framed by the Santa Rosa mountains, its versified array of cacti and > > the possibility of fatal collision with pronghorn sheep whose demise might > > open the Willows wetland to some good mud jeeping, I will take the effort > > here to expand on my post taking pains to be more clear and coherent. > > > > Coyote Canyon is within the Peninsular Ranges geomorphic province controlled > > by the San Jacinto fault. The creek bed that follows the fault separates the > > San Ysidro and the Santa Rosa mountain ranges. The canyon extends 36 miles > > North-West from Borrego Springs, a town in the center of Borrego Springs > > State Park in San Diego County to Anza in Riverside County. > > > > Three clusters (as Jeff said) of desert willow, know as Lower, Middle and > > Upper Willows are found along the year-round Coyote Creek in the central of > > the canyon. California fan palms, cottonwoods, mesquite and acacia are also > > abundant. The route along the creek bed is not static. Summer floods > > dramatically alter the shape and route of the road near the Willows and over > > the rugged side trail into Collins Valley. A 3.1 mile segment of the road > > between Upper and Middle Willows is permanently closed to vehicles. Also the > > North-West (top) half of the canyon above the Willows is closed to all users > > (even hiking Sierra Club members) from June 1 to September 30. My post > > specifically related to the northern part of the canyon from Upper Willows > > to Anza. Because of the closures noted above this trail is only accessible > > from Anza and then only from October 1 thru the end of May. It is this > > section that opened just last week. I am sorry if I led some to think the > > 3.1 miles Willows section was open. It is not. > > > > A benefit of the closure of the Willows is to have completely stopped thru > > traffic. Before the Willows was closed a "round trip" existed from Borrego > > Springs to Warner Springs, Aguanga, Anza and back to Borrego Springs. Also > > visitors to Borrego Springs coming from Palm Springs might use this route > > and at one time this Jeep trail was maintained and passable by pickup truck. > > Today not only is the road not maintained the park service seem to > > discourage passage and do not repair even major washouts. This makes the > > trail demanding and deserted. Points of interest along the trail include The > > Anza Monument, Nance Canyon, Turkey Track Canyon, Tule Canyon, Horse Canyon, > > Alder Canyon, Fig Tree Valley and Bailey's Cabin. Bailey's cabin is restored > > and is kept stocked by visiting Jeep groups with emergency food supplies for > > persons who get stranded. The Anza monument honors Juan Bautista de Anza the > > Spanish captain of the epic 1775 expedition from Mexico to San Francisco who > > was the first non-native to pass through the canyon as well as being the > > first European to enter California by land. The name "Borrego" of course is > > Spanish for sheep and the combined name "Anza-Borrego" probably relates to > > the lack of women Anza took with him on his journey. Today, thankfully we > > have Jeep chicks. > > > > I hope this clarifies the situation. |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open
So when are we going Jeff, Jerry, Pete, others? (any place actually) The
season is upon us. We need to plan something enough in advance to make sure everyone can come. KH " drinking beer and smoking cigars until 2:00AM is a large part of rock crawling." |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open
So when are we going Jeff, Jerry, Pete, others? (any place actually) The
season is upon us. We need to plan something enough in advance to make sure everyone can come. KH " drinking beer and smoking cigars until 2:00AM is a large part of rock crawling." |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open
So when are we going Jeff, Jerry, Pete, others? (any place actually) The
season is upon us. We need to plan something enough in advance to make sure everyone can come. KH " drinking beer and smoking cigars until 2:00AM is a large part of rock crawling." |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open (OT)
I probably would have been wearing a white shirt, black skinny tie and a
pocket protector if I were in my prime in the sixties. NASA was booming back then, our space program sux now. KH "Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3f83d652.40838572@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:24:18 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge" > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote: > > >As a former hippie rock musician who played the Fillmore, the Whiskey, etc., > >etc. back in '67 and '68, > > With who? I've been to the Fillmore and the Whiskey and spent a lot > of time in Haight-Ashbury. > Do I know you...and more to the point, would I remember it if I did? > :-) > > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open (OT)
I probably would have been wearing a white shirt, black skinny tie and a
pocket protector if I were in my prime in the sixties. NASA was booming back then, our space program sux now. KH "Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3f83d652.40838572@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:24:18 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge" > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote: > > >As a former hippie rock musician who played the Fillmore, the Whiskey, etc., > >etc. back in '67 and '68, > > With who? I've been to the Fillmore and the Whiskey and spent a lot > of time in Haight-Ashbury. > Do I know you...and more to the point, would I remember it if I did? > :-) > > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open (OT)
I probably would have been wearing a white shirt, black skinny tie and a
pocket protector if I were in my prime in the sixties. NASA was booming back then, our space program sux now. KH "Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3f83d652.40838572@News.CIS.DFN.DE... > On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:24:18 -0600, "Gerald G. McGeorge" > <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote: > > >As a former hippie rock musician who played the Fillmore, the Whiskey, etc., > >etc. back in '67 and '68, > > With who? I've been to the Fillmore and the Whiskey and spent a lot > of time in Haight-Ashbury. > Do I know you...and more to the point, would I remember it if I did? > :-) > > -- > Old Crow > '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' > '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande > ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 > TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open
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"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qEehb.50275$gv5.44552@fed1read05... > So when are we going Jeff, Jerry, Pete, others? (any place actually) The > season is upon us. We need to plan something enough in advance to make sure > everyone can come. I'm rather anxious to do something like that with you and those names Kevin. :) Jerry -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at > KH > > " drinking beer and smoking cigars until 2:00AM > is a large part of rock crawling." > > > > > |
Re: Coyote Canyon from Anza to Desert Floor now Open
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"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qEehb.50275$gv5.44552@fed1read05... > So when are we going Jeff, Jerry, Pete, others? (any place actually) The > season is upon us. We need to plan something enough in advance to make sure > everyone can come. I'm rather anxious to do something like that with you and those names Kevin. :) Jerry -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at > KH > > " drinking beer and smoking cigars until 2:00AM > is a large part of rock crawling." > > > > > |
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