Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
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Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Mike,
I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
>
> Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Brian Hubley wrote:
> >
> > Thanx Jerry
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > >
> > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
ago.
> > I
> > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > told
> > > 80
> > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > Someone
> > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
fluid
> > > for
> > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > course.
> > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > >
> > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
many
> > > > years?
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > >
> > > > -Brian
> > >
> > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
or
> > no
> > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
function
> > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
a
> > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
the
> > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
MTL.
> > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > >
> > >
I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
>
> Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Brian Hubley wrote:
> >
> > Thanx Jerry
> >
> > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > >
> > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
ago.
> > I
> > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > told
> > > 80
> > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > Someone
> > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
fluid
> > > for
> > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > course.
> > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > >
> > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
many
> > > > years?
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > >
> > > > -Brian
> > >
> > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
or
> > no
> > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
function
> > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
a
> > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
the
> > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
MTL.
> > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > >
> > >
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Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Sorry if I got mouthy.
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Sorry if I got mouthy.
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Sorry if I got mouthy.
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Sorry if I got mouthy.
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
Mike
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not tolerate
> 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil available
> from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550, which
> has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
>
> If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash. Sorry
> if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> >
> > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear oil'.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanx Jerry
> > >
> > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to long
> ago.
> > > I
> > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I was
> > > told
> > > > 80
> > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case yet.
> > > Someone
> > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type of
> fluid
> > > > for
> > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the manual of
> > > > course.
> > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > >
> > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back so
> many
> > > > > years?
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Brian
> > > >
> > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4 (low
> or
> > > no
> > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> function
> > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC has
> a
> > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used in
> the
> > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use Redline
> MTL.
> > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > >
> > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Mike,
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Mike,
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Mike,
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
Mike,
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by tech
service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is far
too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
70w-80 GL4.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> Sorry if I got mouthy.
>
> It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
>
> The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> >
> > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
tolerate
> > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
available
> > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
which
> > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> >
> > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
Sorry
> > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > >
> > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
oil'.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > >
> > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
long
> > ago.
> > > > I
> > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case. I
was
> > > > told
> > > > > 80
> > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
yet.
> > > > Someone
> > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
of
> > fluid
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
manual of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go back
so
> > many
> > > > > > years?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Brian
> > > > >
> > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
(low
> > or
> > > > no
> > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > function
> > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting. DC
has
> > a
> > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550 used
in
> > the
> > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
Redline
> > MTL.
> > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Trans and diff fluid for a YJ
It calls for a 75W-90 GL-3, and there were some years when the shop manuals
incorrectly called for a 75W-90 GL-5. Redline's MT-90 is a 75W-90 GL-4, MTL
is 70W-80 GL-4. If you go with Redline, MT-90 is the correct viscosity.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cecdh601c6u@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Mike,
>
> The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by
tech
> service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is
far
> too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
> 70w-80 GL4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> > Sorry if I got mouthy.
> >
> > It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
> >
> > The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
> tolerate
> > > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
> available
> > > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
> which
> > > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> > >
> > > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
> Sorry
> > > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > > >
> > > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
> oil'.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
> long
> > > ago.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case.
I
> was
> > > > > told
> > > > > > 80
> > > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
> yet.
> > > > > Someone
> > > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
> of
> > > fluid
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
> manual of
> > > > > > course.
> > > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go
back
> so
> > > many
> > > > > > > years?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
> (low
> > > or
> > > > > no
> > > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > > function
> > > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting.
DC
> has
> > > a
> > > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550
used
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
> Redline
> > > MTL.
> > > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
>
>
incorrectly called for a 75W-90 GL-5. Redline's MT-90 is a 75W-90 GL-4, MTL
is 70W-80 GL-4. If you go with Redline, MT-90 is the correct viscosity.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:cecdh601c6u@enews4.newsguy.com...
> Mike,
>
> The original manuals called for a 75w-90 GL5 oil and were corrected by
tech
> service bulletin years ago. Any 80w-90, even if a lower sulphur GL4, is
far
> too heavy a lubricant for an AX15 or NV3550. I believe Redline MTL is a
> 70w-80 GL4.
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41096C62.7A63CE5E@sympatico.ca...
> > Sorry if I got mouthy.
> >
> > It is still 80W90 gear oil he needs. You are mixing up terms.
> >
> > The GL rating has nothing to do with the weight of 80W90.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > I find your description of my assitance to this guy offensive and
> > > uncharacteristic of you. What I stated is fact. The AX15 can not
> tolerate
> > > 80w-90 GL5 gear oil. DC recommends a special GL3 (no sulphur) oil
> available
> > > from Jeep dealers. They also make a special GL3 oil for the NV3550,
> which
> > > has the same issue re: GL5 oils.
> > >
> > > If he uses any form of GL5 gear oil he will experience difficult to
> > > impossible shifting (esp. in extreme cold) and substantial gear clash.
> Sorry
> > > if my reply offended you, it's just the facts.
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:41092D32.D9F68E4B@sympatico.ca...
> > > > He just fed you a pile of BS. Not much to thank him for.
> > > >
> > > > Your transfer case takes ATF and your tranny takes 80W90 GL4 'gear
> oil'.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Brian Hubley wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanx Jerry
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ce9ko42im7@enews1.newsguy.com...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian Hubley" <brianhubley422@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:7hONc.16881$iK.10045@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net...
> > > > > > > I have a 91 YJ 4.0L manual with alot of miles I bought not to
> long
> > > ago.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > would like to change the fluid in the trans and transfer case.
I
> was
> > > > > told
> > > > > > 80
> > > > > > > 90 for the trans, and I haven't checked on the transfer case
> yet.
> > > > > Someone
> > > > > > > else told me it might need automatic fluid or a different type
> of
> > > fluid
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > the trans so I haven't done anything yet. I don't have the
> manual of
> > > > > > course.
> > > > > > > What should I do? Any web resource's out there?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would Daimler Chrysler know? I have been told they only go
back
> so
> > > many
> > > > > > > years?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any suggestions would be a great help to me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > DO NOT put 80w-90 in your transmission. It requires a GL3 or GL4
> (low
> > > or
> > > > > no
> > > > > > sulphur) gear oil, other wise the synchros will not be able to
> > > function
> > > > > > properly and you'll get serious cold gear clash when shifting.
DC
> has
> > > a
> > > > > > special gear oil for AX15s, plus another for the later NV3550
used
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > TJs. Check with your local dealer. Alternatively, you can use
> Redline
> > > MTL.
> > > > > > I've used it in my '94 YJ for years and swear by it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
>
>