Correct Lift Procedures?
10-18-2004, 07:19 PM
#1
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Correct Lift Procedures?
I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
(probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
pro's and cons for each?
Thanks!
PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
(probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
pro's and cons for each?
Thanks!
PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
10-18-2004, 07:24 PM
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
Spring wrap will be a problem:
http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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griffin wrote:
>
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
10-18-2004, 07:24 PM
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
Spring wrap will be a problem:
http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
10-18-2004, 07:24 PM
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
Spring wrap will be a problem:
http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
http://www.dehesa4x4.com/osburn/tech/soa.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
griffin wrote:
>
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift? I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
10-19-2004, 08:25 AM
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
I think the Spring Over Axle (SOA) is a great lift for a CJ or YJ! 8" is an
exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock
springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and
available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any
wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
>I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
> put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
> I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
> and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock
springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and
available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any
wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
>I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
> put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
> I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
> and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
10-19-2004, 08:25 AM
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
I think the Spring Over Axle (SOA) is a great lift for a CJ or YJ! 8" is an
exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock
springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and
available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any
wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
>I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
> put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
> I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
> and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock
springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and
available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any
wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
>I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
> put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
> I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
> and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
10-19-2004, 08:25 AM
#7
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
I think the Spring Over Axle (SOA) is a great lift for a CJ or YJ! 8" is an
exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock
springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and
available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any
wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
>I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
> put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
> I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
> and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
exaggeration though unless lift springs are used. More like 5-6" with stock
springs. Spring wrap can be a problem depending on springs used and
available torque. My stock CJ springs with an add-a-leaf don't have any
wrap. I see Bill left a good link to get started.
--
JimG
80' CJ-7 258 CID, HEI
4.56 Gears, Lock-Right F&R
35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
D44 Rear, D30 Front. SOA
Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
00' TJ Sport 4.0L, 5sp
4.56 Gears, TrueTrac rear
33" BFG AT on 15x8 Eagle Alloys
D35 Rear, D30 Front. 3" Suspension Lift
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
>I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
> put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
> I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
> and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
10-19-2004, 11:23 AM
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Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
What you found is called a Spring Over. A spring over is a common way to
lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the
springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the
factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring
overs stock.
In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might
say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results
in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring
over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?
The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over,
giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the
trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the
springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the
factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring
overs stock.
In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might
say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results
in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring
over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?
The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over,
giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the
trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
10-19-2004, 11:23 AM
#9
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Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
What you found is called a Spring Over. A spring over is a common way to
lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the
springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the
factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring
overs stock.
In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might
say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results
in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring
over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?
The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over,
giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the
trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the
springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the
factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring
overs stock.
In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might
say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results
in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring
over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?
The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over,
giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the
trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
10-19-2004, 11:23 AM
#10
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Posts: n/a
Re: Correct Lift Procedures?
What you found is called a Spring Over. A spring over is a common way to
lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the
springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the
factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring
overs stock.
In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might
say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results
in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring
over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?
The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over,
giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the
trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
lift a leaf-sprung vehicle, and in some cases the factory fitment of the
springs is a spring over - there are no CJs with a spring over from the
factory, but I am pretty sure there are other models that come with spring
overs stock.
In any case, the "lift" is measured by the springs themselves, so you might
say, "I have a 2.5" lift with a spring over." Since the spring over results
in about 3.5 inches, you have a total lift of 6". If you only had a spring
over, you would lift your Jeep about 3.5". Get it?
The Jeep you found sounds like it has 4" springs on top of the spring over,
giving you what you estimate at 8" of lift.
"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:scYcd.760467$M95.136923@pd7tw1no...
> I went and looked at an '86 CJ7 today to buy as a second Jeep for the
trail
> as my "beater" Jeep. It had (apparently) 8" of lift because the guy had
put
> the leafs over the axles. Is this a correct and good way of doing a lift?
I
> looked underneath and it just seemed to be putting too much stress on too
> concentrated a point on the leafs to be very effective. Does anyone
> (probably Bill) have any links to sites that describe the various lifts
and
> pro's and cons for each?
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS: The Jeep was a POS. Not even worth $1500 CDN in parts.
>
>
