Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
11-30-2003, 10:49 PM
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Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
1940's and early 1950's.
After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
something to break.
The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
number of years.
The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
improved reliability or not, though.
The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
powered control.
Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
versions of our favorite vehicles.
PLM
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http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
1940's and early 1950's.
After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
something to break.
The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
number of years.
The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
improved reliability or not, though.
The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
powered control.
Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
versions of our favorite vehicles.
PLM
--
[ ]
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12-01-2003, 12:11 AM
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
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Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
>
> http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
>
> If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
>
> These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> 1940's and early 1950's.
>
> After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
> it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
> asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
>
> The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
> the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
> seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
> walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
>
> However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
>
> Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
> when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
> up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
> something to break.
>
> The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
> in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
> number of years.
>
> The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
> added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> improved reliability or not, though.
>
> The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> powered control.
>
> Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> versions of our favorite vehicles.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
>
> http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
>
> If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
>
> These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> 1940's and early 1950's.
>
> After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
> it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
> asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
>
> The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
> the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
> seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
> walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
>
> However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
>
> Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
> when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
> up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
> something to break.
>
> The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
> in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
> number of years.
>
> The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
> added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> improved reliability or not, though.
>
> The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> powered control.
>
> Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> versions of our favorite vehicles.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 12:11 AM
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
>
> http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
>
> If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
>
> These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> 1940's and early 1950's.
>
> After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
> it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
> asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
>
> The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
> the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
> seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
> walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
>
> However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
>
> Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
> when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
> up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
> something to break.
>
> The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
> in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
> number of years.
>
> The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
> added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> improved reliability or not, though.
>
> The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> powered control.
>
> Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> versions of our favorite vehicles.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
>
> http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
>
> If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
>
> These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> 1940's and early 1950's.
>
> After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
> it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
> asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
>
> The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
> the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
> seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
> walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
>
> However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
>
> Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
> when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
> up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
> something to break.
>
> The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
> in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
> number of years.
>
> The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
> added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> improved reliability or not, though.
>
> The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> powered control.
>
> Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> versions of our favorite vehicles.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 12:11 AM
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
>
> http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
>
> If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
>
> These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> 1940's and early 1950's.
>
> After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
> it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
> asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
>
> The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
> the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
> seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
> walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
>
> However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
>
> Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
> when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
> up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
> something to break.
>
> The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
> in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
> number of years.
>
> The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
> added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> improved reliability or not, though.
>
> The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> powered control.
>
> Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> versions of our favorite vehicles.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Patrick Mills wrote:
>
> For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
>
> http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
>
> If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
>
> These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> 1940's and early 1950's.
>
> After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and renamed
> it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls. I
> asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
>
> The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because, at
> the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother remembers
> seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a comfortable
> walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
>
> However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
>
> Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching away
> when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would hang
> up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual for
> something to break.
>
> The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to operate
> in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for a
> number of years.
>
> The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an enhancement
> added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> improved reliability or not, though.
>
> The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> powered control.
>
> Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> versions of our favorite vehicles.
>
> PLM
>
> --
> [ ]
> __OIIIIO__
> |||=oo=|||
> ||| |||
12-01-2003, 01:15 AM
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
dave
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> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
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> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Patrick Mills wrote:
> >
> > For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
> >
> > If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
> >
> > These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> > Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> > 1940's and early 1950's.
> >
> > After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and
renamed
> > it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> > in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls.
I
> > asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
> >
> > The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because,
at
> > the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother
remembers
> > seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a
comfortable
> > walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
> >
> > However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
> >
> > Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> > drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> > sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> > they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> > jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching
away
> > when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would
hang
> > up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> > front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> > would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual
for
> > something to break.
> >
> > The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to
operate
> > in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for
a
> > number of years.
> >
> > The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an
enhancement
> > added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> > eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> > improved reliability or not, though.
> >
> > The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> > the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> > and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> > powered control.
> >
> > Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> > versions of our favorite vehicles.
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
dave
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> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
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> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Patrick Mills wrote:
> >
> > For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
> >
> > If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
> >
> > These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> > Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> > 1940's and early 1950's.
> >
> > After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and
renamed
> > it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> > in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls.
I
> > asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
> >
> > The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because,
at
> > the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother
remembers
> > seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a
comfortable
> > walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
> >
> > However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
> >
> > Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> > drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> > sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> > they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> > jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching
away
> > when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would
hang
> > up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> > front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> > would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual
for
> > something to break.
> >
> > The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to
operate
> > in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for
a
> > number of years.
> >
> > The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an
enhancement
> > added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> > eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> > improved reliability or not, though.
> >
> > The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> > the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> > and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> > powered control.
> >
> > Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> > versions of our favorite vehicles.
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
12-01-2003, 01:15 AM
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
dave
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> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Patrick Mills wrote:
> >
> > For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
> >
> > If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
> >
> > These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> > Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> > 1940's and early 1950's.
> >
> > After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and
renamed
> > it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> > in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls.
I
> > asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
> >
> > The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because,
at
> > the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother
remembers
> > seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a
comfortable
> > walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
> >
> > However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
> >
> > Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> > drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> > sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> > they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> > jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching
away
> > when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would
hang
> > up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> > front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> > would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual
for
> > something to break.
> >
> > The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to
operate
> > in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for
a
> > number of years.
> >
> > The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an
enhancement
> > added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> > eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> > improved reliability or not, though.
> >
> > The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> > the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> > and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> > powered control.
> >
> > Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> > versions of our favorite vehicles.
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
dave
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FCACD79.B4FCE117@***.net...
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Patrick Mills wrote:
> >
> > For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
> >
> > If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
> >
> > These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> > Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> > 1940's and early 1950's.
> >
> > After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and
renamed
> > it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> > in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls.
I
> > asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
> >
> > The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because,
at
> > the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother
remembers
> > seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a
comfortable
> > walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
> >
> > However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
> >
> > Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> > drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> > sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> > they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> > jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching
away
> > when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would
hang
> > up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> > front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> > would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual
for
> > something to break.
> >
> > The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to
operate
> > in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for
a
> > number of years.
> >
> > The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an
enhancement
> > added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> > eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> > improved reliability or not, though.
> >
> > The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> > the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> > and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> > powered control.
> >
> > Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> > versions of our favorite vehicles.
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
12-01-2003, 01:15 AM
#7
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
dave
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FCACD79.B4FCE117@***.net...
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Patrick Mills wrote:
> >
> > For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
> >
> > If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
> >
> > These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> > Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> > 1940's and early 1950's.
> >
> > After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and
renamed
> > it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> > in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls.
I
> > asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
> >
> > The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because,
at
> > the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother
remembers
> > seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a
comfortable
> > walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
> >
> > However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
> >
> > Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> > drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> > sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> > they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> > jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching
away
> > when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would
hang
> > up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> > front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> > would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual
for
> > something to break.
> >
> > The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to
operate
> > in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for
a
> > number of years.
> >
> > The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an
enhancement
> > added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> > eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> > improved reliability or not, though.
> >
> > The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> > the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> > and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> > powered control.
> >
> > Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> > versions of our favorite vehicles.
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
dave
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FCACD79.B4FCE117@***.net...
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Lit...epATrench.html
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Patrick Mills wrote:
> >
> > For those just interested in the pic, here's the link:
> >
> > http://www.zarkware.com/Photos/TrenchingJeeps.jpg
> >
> > If you're interested in the story that goes with them, here it is:
> >
> > These jeeps were used by the American Plumbing & Heating Company in
> > Springfield, Missouri, which was owned by my uncle and my dad in the
> > 1940's and early 1950's.
> >
> > After my uncle's death in the 1950's, my dad moved the company and
renamed
> > it "J & J Plumbing". My brother owns the company now, and he and I were
> > in the office today when I noticed a couple of old photos on the walls.
I
> > asked about the jeeps in the picture, and he told me this story:
> >
> > The jeeps were used as trenching machines (to lay pipe, etc.) because,
at
> > the time, backhoes were not really widely available. My brother
remembers
> > seeing these machines working, and said they could trench at a
comfortable
> > walking pace, as long as the ground was not too rocky.
> >
> > However, in southwest Missouri, the ground is often rocky.
> >
> > Apparently, the spare parts used by American Plumbing & Heating company
> > drew the attention of the regional jeep (******?) dealer, because they
> > sent a rep. by to inquire what the machines were being used for, since
> > they were using parts up at an alarming rate. My dad told him where the
> > jeeps were working, and the rep. observed one of the units trenching
away
> > when it hit a large boulder in the ground. The trenching unit would
hang
> > up on the boulder, and the entire jeep would stop, causing the jeep's
> > front end to rise in the air and "pop a wheelie". Then the whole thing
> > would stall and the jeep would crash to the ground. It wasn't unusual
for
> > something to break.
> >
> > The dealer returned and told my dad the units were not designed to
operate
> > in this type of environment, but I think they continued to use them for
a
> > number of years.
> >
> > The large, round objects attached to the front bumpers were an
enhancement
> > added by my dad - they are concrete-filled water heaters. They were
> > eventually installed to prevent the wheelie-popping. Don't know if this
> > improved reliability or not, though.
> >
> > The left-most jeep has a large wheel which was used to manually position
> > the trenching arm vertically. The right-most jeep was apparently newer,
> > and had a PTO which could be used to position the trenching arm under
> > powered control.
> >
> > Thought some in the group might be interested in these early, commercial
> > versions of our favorite vehicles.
> >
> > PLM
> >
> > --
> > [ ]
> > __OIIIIO__
> > |||=oo=|||
> > ||| |||
12-01-2003, 01:28 AM
#8
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
You're never gonna get a girlfriend with that attitude! :)
David Eagan wrote:
> i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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David Eagan wrote:
> i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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12-01-2003, 01:28 AM
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
You're never gonna get a girlfriend with that attitude! :)
David Eagan wrote:
> i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
David Eagan wrote:
> i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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Re: Cool old Jeep Trenching machines
You're never gonna get a girlfriend with that attitude! :)
David Eagan wrote:
> i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
David Eagan wrote:
> i got an old rusty one if anyone wants it..
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
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