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Re: converting from private to commercial
Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in
Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to see around here, only smaller. I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit without having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is worth a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed with Jeeps than we are over here. Earle "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > > Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a Liberty > over here -- which makes your position even worse). > > > > > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > Hi, > > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug > > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically > > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and > > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how > > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The > > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... > > anyone know anything about this? > > > > Tks > > > > Nichollette > > > > -- > > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in
Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to see around here, only smaller. I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit without having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is worth a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed with Jeeps than we are over here. Earle "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > > Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a Liberty > over here -- which makes your position even worse). > > > > > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > Hi, > > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug > > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically > > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and > > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how > > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The > > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... > > anyone know anything about this? > > > > Tks > > > > Nichollette > > > > -- > > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in
Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to see around here, only smaller. I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit without having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is worth a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed with Jeeps than we are over here. Earle "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > > Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a Liberty > over here -- which makes your position even worse). > > > > > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > Hi, > > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug > > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically > > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and > > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how > > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The > > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... > > anyone know anything about this? > > > > Tks > > > > Nichollette > > > > -- > > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Sorta like a Land Rover over here (if it didn't break down all the time).
Carl "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Sorta like a Land Rover over here (if it didn't break down all the time).
Carl "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Sorta like a Land Rover over here (if it didn't break down all the time).
Carl "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Here now....
*I* am impressed with Jeeps! ;¬Þ Kate "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to see around here, only smaller. I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit without having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is worth a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed with Jeeps than we are over here. Earle "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > > Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a Liberty > over here -- which makes your position even worse). > > > > > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > Hi, > > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug > > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically > > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and > > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how > > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The > > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... > > anyone know anything about this? > > > > Tks > > > > Nichollette > > > > -- > > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Here now....
*I* am impressed with Jeeps! ;¬Þ Kate "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to see around here, only smaller. I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit without having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is worth a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed with Jeeps than we are over here. Earle "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > > Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a Liberty > over here -- which makes your position even worse). > > > > > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > Hi, > > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug > > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically > > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and > > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how > > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The > > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... > > anyone know anything about this? > > > > Tks > > > > Nichollette > > > > -- > > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Here now....
*I* am impressed with Jeeps! ;¬Þ Kate "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to see around here, only smaller. I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit without having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is worth a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed with Jeeps than we are over here. Earle "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > > Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a Liberty > over here -- which makes your position even worse). > > > > > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > Hi, > > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug > > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically > > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and > > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how > > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The > > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... > > anyone know anything about this? > > > > Tks > > > > Nichollette > > > > -- > > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Yeah but mom always said you were too easy...
easy to please I mean..... "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message news:3vjDh.10051$e8.4486@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Here now.... > *I* am impressed with Jeeps! > > ;¬Þ > > Kate > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Yeah but mom always said you were too easy...
easy to please I mean..... "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message news:3vjDh.10051$e8.4486@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Here now.... > *I* am impressed with Jeeps! > > ;¬Þ > > Kate > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Yeah but mom always said you were too easy...
easy to please I mean..... "Kate" <svtkate@spam.filter> wrote in message news:3vjDh.10051$e8.4486@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > Here now.... > *I* am impressed with Jeeps! > > ;¬Þ > > Kate > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
1400E works out to about $1840US. Ouch. Are there other taxes assocated with motor vehicles in Ireland as well, or is that pretty much the whole tax bite? In the US there are local property taxes levied as well as taxes on motor fuels, but I don't think that I pay as much in combined taxes on my `96 Cherokee, even at 20K miles a year. Does this apply to you? http://www.buncrana.ie/Article_Listi...tor+Tax+Online Keyword search: Circular MT 10/2005 * All seats and seat belts to the rear of the driver must be removed and the bolt holes welded over. This would mean you'll likely want to fabricate a platform to fill in the space over the rear seat footwells. * It is not necessary to insist that vehicle owners blacken out windows or to remove windows & replace with other materials. In the US "black out windows" can be accomplished with paint. If you need to remove the glass and replace it with metal an autobody shop should be able to do do that, but I'd guess that the cost is going to be roughly what you're paying in road use tax now. I looked for what USAns would call a "panel truck conversion" kit for a Cherokee but found nothing. Oddly enough, what you want to do is the reverse of what some truck owners in the US do. They install windows in the sides of their panel trucks to allow them to drive on certain roads with commercial vehicle restrictions. On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, nichollette wrote: > Hi, > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug of > cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if I > had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing the > two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing the > rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it to > do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep > dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone know > anything about this? > > Tks > > Nichollette > > -- > > > > -- "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
1400E works out to about $1840US. Ouch. Are there other taxes assocated with motor vehicles in Ireland as well, or is that pretty much the whole tax bite? In the US there are local property taxes levied as well as taxes on motor fuels, but I don't think that I pay as much in combined taxes on my `96 Cherokee, even at 20K miles a year. Does this apply to you? http://www.buncrana.ie/Article_Listi...tor+Tax+Online Keyword search: Circular MT 10/2005 * All seats and seat belts to the rear of the driver must be removed and the bolt holes welded over. This would mean you'll likely want to fabricate a platform to fill in the space over the rear seat footwells. * It is not necessary to insist that vehicle owners blacken out windows or to remove windows & replace with other materials. In the US "black out windows" can be accomplished with paint. If you need to remove the glass and replace it with metal an autobody shop should be able to do do that, but I'd guess that the cost is going to be roughly what you're paying in road use tax now. I looked for what USAns would call a "panel truck conversion" kit for a Cherokee but found nothing. Oddly enough, what you want to do is the reverse of what some truck owners in the US do. They install windows in the sides of their panel trucks to allow them to drive on certain roads with commercial vehicle restrictions. On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, nichollette wrote: > Hi, > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug of > cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if I > had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing the > two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing the > rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it to > do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep > dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone know > anything about this? > > Tks > > Nichollette > > -- > > > > -- "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
1400E works out to about $1840US. Ouch. Are there other taxes assocated with motor vehicles in Ireland as well, or is that pretty much the whole tax bite? In the US there are local property taxes levied as well as taxes on motor fuels, but I don't think that I pay as much in combined taxes on my `96 Cherokee, even at 20K miles a year. Does this apply to you? http://www.buncrana.ie/Article_Listi...tor+Tax+Online Keyword search: Circular MT 10/2005 * All seats and seat belts to the rear of the driver must be removed and the bolt holes welded over. This would mean you'll likely want to fabricate a platform to fill in the space over the rear seat footwells. * It is not necessary to insist that vehicle owners blacken out windows or to remove windows & replace with other materials. In the US "black out windows" can be accomplished with paint. If you need to remove the glass and replace it with metal an autobody shop should be able to do do that, but I'd guess that the cost is going to be roughly what you're paying in road use tax now. I looked for what USAns would call a "panel truck conversion" kit for a Cherokee but found nothing. Oddly enough, what you want to do is the reverse of what some truck owners in the US do. They install windows in the sides of their panel trucks to allow them to drive on certain roads with commercial vehicle restrictions. On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, nichollette wrote: > Hi, > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug of > cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if I > had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing the > two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing the > rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it to > do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep > dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone know > anything about this? > > Tks > > Nichollette > > -- > > > > -- "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
I don't need a bone fide commercial use for the vehicle. I just need to
have the side rear windows permanently blanked, and the rear seats removed. I'm unconcerned with the "look at me" factor. I had a litre handmade sports car, and got rid of that because every time I returned to the car, there'd be a crowd round it. But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. When I moved to Ireland in 1998, I was the only one around with a Jeep - I mean a proper Jeep, and there were very few WAD vehicles. Now, with everyone having loads of cash, big vehicles are a status symbol. However, the Saab convertible is the one that turns heads here now..... :-) Nichollette "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
I don't need a bone fide commercial use for the vehicle. I just need to
have the side rear windows permanently blanked, and the rear seats removed. I'm unconcerned with the "look at me" factor. I had a litre handmade sports car, and got rid of that because every time I returned to the car, there'd be a crowd round it. But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. When I moved to Ireland in 1998, I was the only one around with a Jeep - I mean a proper Jeep, and there were very few WAD vehicles. Now, with everyone having loads of cash, big vehicles are a status symbol. However, the Saab convertible is the one that turns heads here now..... :-) Nichollette "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
I don't need a bone fide commercial use for the vehicle. I just need to
have the side rear windows permanently blanked, and the rear seats removed. I'm unconcerned with the "look at me" factor. I had a litre handmade sports car, and got rid of that because every time I returned to the car, there'd be a crowd round it. But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. When I moved to Ireland in 1998, I was the only one around with a Jeep - I mean a proper Jeep, and there were very few WAD vehicles. Now, with everyone having loads of cash, big vehicles are a status symbol. However, the Saab convertible is the one that turns heads here now..... :-) Nichollette "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > see around here, only smaller. > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > without > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > worth > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > Earle > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. >> >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > Liberty >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). >> >> >> >> >> >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> > Hi, >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous >> > slug >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut >> > dramatically >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > and >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > how >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > The >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > assistance... >> > anyone know anything about this? >> > >> > Tks >> > >> > Nichollette >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Well you have several suggestions for blanking the windows. Now all you
need is a worker to separate you from your cash. Good luck. Earle "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > I don't need a bone fide commercial use for the vehicle. I just need to > have the side rear windows permanently blanked, and the rear seats removed. > I'm unconcerned with the "look at me" factor. I had a litre handmade sports > car, and got rid of that because every time I returned to the car, there'd > be a crowd round it. > > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. When I moved to > Ireland in 1998, I was the only one around with a Jeep - I mean a proper > Jeep, and there were very few WAD vehicles. Now, with everyone having loads > of cash, big vehicles are a status symbol. However, the Saab convertible is > the one that turns heads here now..... :-) > > Nichollette > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > > see around here, only smaller. > > > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > > without > > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > > worth > > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > > > Earle > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > >> > >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > > Liberty > >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > >> > Hi, > >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous > >> > slug > >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut > >> > dramatically > >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > > and > >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > > how > >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > > The > >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > > assistance... > >> > anyone know anything about this? > >> > > >> > Tks > >> > > >> > Nichollette > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Well you have several suggestions for blanking the windows. Now all you
need is a worker to separate you from your cash. Good luck. Earle "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > I don't need a bone fide commercial use for the vehicle. I just need to > have the side rear windows permanently blanked, and the rear seats removed. > I'm unconcerned with the "look at me" factor. I had a litre handmade sports > car, and got rid of that because every time I returned to the car, there'd > be a crowd round it. > > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. When I moved to > Ireland in 1998, I was the only one around with a Jeep - I mean a proper > Jeep, and there were very few WAD vehicles. Now, with everyone having loads > of cash, big vehicles are a status symbol. However, the Saab convertible is > the one that turns heads here now..... :-) > > Nichollette > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > > see around here, only smaller. > > > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > > without > > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > > worth > > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > > > Earle > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > >> > >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > > Liberty > >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > >> > Hi, > >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous > >> > slug > >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut > >> > dramatically > >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > > and > >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > > how > >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > > The > >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > > assistance... > >> > anyone know anything about this? > >> > > >> > Tks > >> > > >> > Nichollette > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Well you have several suggestions for blanking the windows. Now all you
need is a worker to separate you from your cash. Good luck. Earle "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > I don't need a bone fide commercial use for the vehicle. I just need to > have the side rear windows permanently blanked, and the rear seats removed. > I'm unconcerned with the "look at me" factor. I had a litre handmade sports > car, and got rid of that because every time I returned to the car, there'd > be a crowd round it. > > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. When I moved to > Ireland in 1998, I was the only one around with a Jeep - I mean a proper > Jeep, and there were very few WAD vehicles. Now, with everyone having loads > of cash, big vehicles are a status symbol. However, the Saab convertible is > the one that turns heads here now..... :-) > > Nichollette > > > "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message > news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Both vehicles look much like the small commercial vehicles that I saw in > > Spain, that are a sort of mini-pickup with a bed topper that is actually a > > part of the body, or something like the old panel trucks that you used to > > see around here, only smaller. > > > > I would be surprised if Nichollette got her "commercial use" permit > > without > > having a bona fide commercial use for the vehicle, but I suppose it is > > worth > > a try. One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > > afford a Jeep" factor, which is ruined when the windows are covered with > > sheet metal and the rear seats taken out. They are a lot more impressed > > with Jeeps than we are over here. > > > > Earle > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message > > news:IW5Dh.1266$5F5.511@trnddc02... > >> In California, we simply buy commercial plates from the DMV. > >> > >> Passenger cars generally do not qualify for commercial plates, but trucks > >> often get commercial plates from the get-go. I don't know how the motor > >> vehicle people would look at a Cherokee (I think your Cherokee is a > > Liberty > >> over here -- which makes your position even worse). > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > >> news:erhp1j$ouh$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > >> > Hi, > >> > I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous > >> > slug > >> > of cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut > >> > dramatically > >> > if I had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve > >> > replacing the two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, > > and > >> > removing the rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, > > how > >> > easy is it to do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... > > The > >> > local jeep dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any > > assistance... > >> > anyone know anything about this? > >> > > >> > Tks > >> > > >> > Nichollette > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Fuel is about twice the price you pay, I reckon. Then there's import duty
on the car in the first place, whether it's used or new. Insurance is also high. Nothing's cheap in Ireland. But I like the people!! Nich "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702221211070.21821@panix3.pani x.com... > > 1400E works out to about $1840US. Ouch. Are there other taxes assocated > with motor vehicles in Ireland as well, or is that pretty much the whole > tax bite? In the US there are local property taxes levied as well as > taxes on motor fuels, but I don't think that I pay as much in combined > taxes on my `96 Cherokee, even at 20K miles a year. > > Does this apply to you? > http://www.buncrana.ie/Article_Listi...tor+Tax+Online > Keyword search: Circular MT 10/2005 > > * All seats and seat belts to the rear of the driver must be removed and > the bolt holes welded over. This would mean you'll likely want to > fabricate a platform to fill in the space over the rear seat footwells. > > * It is not necessary to insist that vehicle owners blacken out windows or > to remove windows & replace with other materials. > > In the US "black out windows" can be accomplished with paint. If you need > to remove the glass and replace it with metal an autobody shop should be > able to do do that, but I'd guess that the cost is going to be roughly > what you're paying in road use tax now. > > I looked for what USAns would call a "panel truck conversion" kit for a > Cherokee but found nothing. Oddly enough, what you want to do is the > reverse of what some truck owners in the US do. They install windows in > the sides of their panel trucks to allow them to drive on certain roads > with commercial vehicle restrictions. > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, nichollette wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug >> of >> cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if >> I >> had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing >> the >> two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing the >> rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it >> to >> do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep >> dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone >> know >> anything about this? >> >> Tks >> >> Nichollette >> >> -- >> >> >> >> > > -- > "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, > that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." > Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Fuel is about twice the price you pay, I reckon. Then there's import duty
on the car in the first place, whether it's used or new. Insurance is also high. Nothing's cheap in Ireland. But I like the people!! Nich "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702221211070.21821@panix3.pani x.com... > > 1400E works out to about $1840US. Ouch. Are there other taxes assocated > with motor vehicles in Ireland as well, or is that pretty much the whole > tax bite? In the US there are local property taxes levied as well as > taxes on motor fuels, but I don't think that I pay as much in combined > taxes on my `96 Cherokee, even at 20K miles a year. > > Does this apply to you? > http://www.buncrana.ie/Article_Listi...tor+Tax+Online > Keyword search: Circular MT 10/2005 > > * All seats and seat belts to the rear of the driver must be removed and > the bolt holes welded over. This would mean you'll likely want to > fabricate a platform to fill in the space over the rear seat footwells. > > * It is not necessary to insist that vehicle owners blacken out windows or > to remove windows & replace with other materials. > > In the US "black out windows" can be accomplished with paint. If you need > to remove the glass and replace it with metal an autobody shop should be > able to do do that, but I'd guess that the cost is going to be roughly > what you're paying in road use tax now. > > I looked for what USAns would call a "panel truck conversion" kit for a > Cherokee but found nothing. Oddly enough, what you want to do is the > reverse of what some truck owners in the US do. They install windows in > the sides of their panel trucks to allow them to drive on certain roads > with commercial vehicle restrictions. > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, nichollette wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug >> of >> cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if >> I >> had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing >> the >> two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing the >> rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it >> to >> do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep >> dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone >> know >> anything about this? >> >> Tks >> >> Nichollette >> >> -- >> >> >> >> > > -- > "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, > that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." > Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
Fuel is about twice the price you pay, I reckon. Then there's import duty
on the car in the first place, whether it's used or new. Insurance is also high. Nothing's cheap in Ireland. But I like the people!! Nich "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702221211070.21821@panix3.pani x.com... > > 1400E works out to about $1840US. Ouch. Are there other taxes assocated > with motor vehicles in Ireland as well, or is that pretty much the whole > tax bite? In the US there are local property taxes levied as well as > taxes on motor fuels, but I don't think that I pay as much in combined > taxes on my `96 Cherokee, even at 20K miles a year. > > Does this apply to you? > http://www.buncrana.ie/Article_Listi...tor+Tax+Online > Keyword search: Circular MT 10/2005 > > * All seats and seat belts to the rear of the driver must be removed and > the bolt holes welded over. This would mean you'll likely want to > fabricate a platform to fill in the space over the rear seat footwells. > > * It is not necessary to insist that vehicle owners blacken out windows or > to remove windows & replace with other materials. > > In the US "black out windows" can be accomplished with paint. If you need > to remove the glass and replace it with metal an autobody shop should be > able to do do that, but I'd guess that the cost is going to be roughly > what you're paying in road use tax now. > > I looked for what USAns would call a "panel truck conversion" kit for a > Cherokee but found nothing. Oddly enough, what you want to do is the > reverse of what some truck owners in the US do. They install windows in > the sides of their panel trucks to allow them to drive on certain roads > with commercial vehicle restrictions. > > > On Wed, 21 Feb 2007, nichollette wrote: > >> Hi, >> I'm in Ireland, with my Cherokee Jeep.. and have to pay an enormous slug >> of >> cash for road tax - around 1400 Euro. This would be cut dramatically if >> I >> had it converted to "commercial use" . Which seems to involve replacing >> the >> two rear side windows with some sort of blanking panels, and removing the >> rear seats. Question is - there a kit for this? If now, how easy is it >> to >> do? I've asked my local garage, but they don't know... The local jeep >> dealer is a bit formal, and unlikely to be of any assistance... anyone >> know >> anything about this? >> >> Tks >> >> Nichollette >> >> -- >> >> >> >> > > -- > "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey, > that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated." > Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
more like "Look at me, I couldn't afford a Range Rover".
All a bit Porsche Boxter-like - you know you really wanted the Carrerra but couldn't do it. Dave "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, |
Re: converting from private to commercial
more like "Look at me, I couldn't afford a Range Rover".
All a bit Porsche Boxter-like - you know you really wanted the Carrerra but couldn't do it. Dave "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, |
Re: converting from private to commercial
more like "Look at me, I couldn't afford a Range Rover".
All a bit Porsche Boxter-like - you know you really wanted the Carrerra but couldn't do it. Dave "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message news:_o-dnT1Hy6_0YEHYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@comcast.com... One of reasons to buy a Jeep in Europe is the "look at me, I can > afford a Jeep" factor, |
Re: converting from private to commercial
The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are
cheap ! Dave Milne, Scotland "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are
cheap ! Dave Milne, Scotland "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are
cheap ! Dave Milne, Scotland "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
> I can't overemphasize how easy it is.
I'll bet you could if you tried. -- Stupendous Man, Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty |
Re: converting from private to commercial
> I can't overemphasize how easy it is.
I'll bet you could if you tried. -- Stupendous Man, Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty |
Re: converting from private to commercial
> I can't overemphasize how easy it is.
I'll bet you could if you tried. -- Stupendous Man, Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty |
Re: converting from private to commercial
> You should be able to get BLACK window tint.
I had an old VW bus and painted the side windows from the inside with spray paint, it looked great. People would always aske me where they could get a tint job like that. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
> You should be able to get BLACK window tint.
I had an old VW bus and painted the side windows from the inside with spray paint, it looked great. People would always aske me where they could get a tint job like that. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
> You should be able to get BLACK window tint.
I had an old VW bus and painted the side windows from the inside with spray paint, it looked great. People would always aske me where they could get a tint job like that. |
Re: converting from private to commercial
But you still get the prestige vehicle tax?
Earle "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:k9oDh.949$HO5.812@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. . > The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are > cheap ! > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
But you still get the prestige vehicle tax?
Earle "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:k9oDh.949$HO5.812@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. . > The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are > cheap ! > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
But you still get the prestige vehicle tax?
Earle "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:k9oDh.949$HO5.812@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. . > The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are > cheap ! > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... > > But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a > > prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. > > |
Re: converting from private to commercial
It's not an XJ.. it's a Limited...Jeep Cherokee...
Nich "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:k9oDh.949$HO5.812@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk.. . > The XJ was, I think, but a bit passé now. Which is great news as they are > cheap ! > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "nichollette" <stokesy@esatclear.ie> wrote in message > news:erknlp$uhr$1@reader01.news.esat.net... >> But you are correct about the Jeep - it IS seen in the UK as a bit of a >> prestige vehicle, no matter that mine is an 95 model now. > > |
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