Control Arm adjustment questions
11-20-2003, 11:32 AM
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Control Arm adjustment questions
I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
Questions:
1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
the center point of the wheel wells?
2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
thanks in advance.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
Questions:
1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
the center point of the wheel wells?
2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
thanks in advance.
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
11-21-2003, 11:42 PM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
pull the rear axle forward, but you will notice that the front lower
control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
Regards,
Guri Sandhu
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> the center point of the wheel wells?
>
> 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>
> thanks in advance.
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
pull the rear axle forward, but you will notice that the front lower
control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
Regards,
Guri Sandhu
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> the center point of the wheel wells?
>
> 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>
> thanks in advance.
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
11-21-2003, 11:42 PM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
pull the rear axle forward, but you will notice that the front lower
control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
Regards,
Guri Sandhu
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> the center point of the wheel wells?
>
> 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>
> thanks in advance.
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
pull the rear axle forward, but you will notice that the front lower
control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
Regards,
Guri Sandhu
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> the center point of the wheel wells?
>
> 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>
> thanks in advance.
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
11-21-2003, 11:42 PM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
pull the rear axle forward, but you will notice that the front lower
control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
Regards,
Guri Sandhu
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> the center point of the wheel wells?
>
> 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>
> thanks in advance.
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
pull the rear axle forward, but you will notice that the front lower
control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
Regards,
Guri Sandhu
twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> the center point of the wheel wells?
>
> 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>
> thanks in advance.
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
> 03 TJ Rubicon
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
11-22-2003, 12:07 AM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
"G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
> pull the rear axle forward,
But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
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but you will notice that the front lower
> control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
> base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
> vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
> trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
> rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>
> To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
> you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
> to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
> have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>
> Regards,
>
> Guri Sandhu
>
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> > I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> > lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> > moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> > the center point of the wheel wells?
> >
> > 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> > the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
11-22-2003, 12:07 AM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
"G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
> pull the rear axle forward,
But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
but you will notice that the front lower
> control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
> base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
> vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
> trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
> rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>
> To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
> you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
> to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
> have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>
> Regards,
>
> Guri Sandhu
>
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> > I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> > lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> > moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> > the center point of the wheel wells?
> >
> > 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> > the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
11-22-2003, 12:07 AM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
"G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
> pull the rear axle forward,
But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
but you will notice that the front lower
> control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
> base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
> vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
> trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
> rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>
> To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
> you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
> to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
> have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>
> Regards,
>
> Guri Sandhu
>
> twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
> > I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
> > lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
> > moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
> > the center point of the wheel wells?
> >
> > 2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
> > the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
> >
> > thanks in advance.
> > --
> > __________________________________________________ _________
> > tw
> > 03 TJ Rubicon
> > 01 XJ Sport
> >
> > There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> > -- Dave Barry
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp
> > Function: noun
> > Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> > 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> > World War II.
> >
> > http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
> > (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> > __________________________________________________ _________
11-23-2003, 09:46 AM
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
Thanks guys! New arms are enroute!! (vbg)
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:773a8bb7.0311212042.a7eb6bb@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
>>pull the rear axle forward,
>
>
> But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
> control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
> adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
> indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
> should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
> but you will notice that the front lower
>
>>control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
>>base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
>>vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
>>trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
>>rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>>
>>To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
>>you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
>>to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
>>have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Guri Sandhu
>>
>>twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>>I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
>>>lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
>>>moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>
>>>1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
>>>the center point of the wheel wells?
>>>
>>>2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
>>>the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>
>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>Function: noun
>>>Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>World War II.
>>>
>>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:773a8bb7.0311212042.a7eb6bb@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
>>pull the rear axle forward,
>
>
> But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
> control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
> adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
> indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
> should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
> but you will notice that the front lower
>
>>control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
>>base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
>>vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
>>trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
>>rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>>
>>To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
>>you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
>>to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
>>have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Guri Sandhu
>>
>>twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>>I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
>>>lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
>>>moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>
>>>1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
>>>the center point of the wheel wells?
>>>
>>>2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
>>>the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>
>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>Function: noun
>>>Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>World War II.
>>>
>>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
11-23-2003, 09:46 AM
#9
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Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
Thanks guys! New arms are enroute!! (vbg)
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:773a8bb7.0311212042.a7eb6bb@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
>>pull the rear axle forward,
>
>
> But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
> control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
> adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
> indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
> should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
> but you will notice that the front lower
>
>>control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
>>base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
>>vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
>>trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
>>rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>>
>>To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
>>you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
>>to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
>>have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Guri Sandhu
>>
>>twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>>I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
>>>lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
>>>moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>
>>>1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
>>>the center point of the wheel wells?
>>>
>>>2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
>>>the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>
>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>Function: noun
>>>Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>World War II.
>>>
>>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:773a8bb7.0311212042.a7eb6bb@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
>>pull the rear axle forward,
>
>
> But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
> control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
> adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
> indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
> should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
> but you will notice that the front lower
>
>>control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
>>base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
>>vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
>>trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
>>rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>>
>>To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
>>you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
>>to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
>>have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Guri Sandhu
>>
>>twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>>I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
>>>lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
>>>moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>
>>>1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
>>>the center point of the wheel wells?
>>>
>>>2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
>>>the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>
>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>Function: noun
>>>Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>World War II.
>>>
>>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
11-23-2003, 09:46 AM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Control Arm adjustment questions
Thanks guys! New arms are enroute!! (vbg)
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:773a8bb7.0311212042.a7eb6bb@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
>>pull the rear axle forward,
>
>
> But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
> control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
> adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
> indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
> should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
> but you will notice that the front lower
>
>>control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
>>base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
>>vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
>>trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
>>rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>>
>>To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
>>you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
>>to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
>>have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Guri Sandhu
>>
>>twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>>I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
>>>lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
>>>moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>
>>>1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
>>>the center point of the wheel wells?
>>>
>>>2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
>>>the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>
>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>Function: noun
>>>Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>World War II.
>>>
>>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "G.Sandhu" <sandhug@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:773a8bb7.0311212042.a7eb6bb@posting.google.co m...
>
>>I have a similar suspension in a 98TJ. A properly adjusted pinion does
>>pull the rear axle forward,
>
>
> But that only happens if you don't know to use adjustable-length UPPER
> control arms instead of adjustable length lower control arms with which to
> adjust the pinion angle. Using lower arms to adjust the pinion angle does
> indeed shorten the wheelbase (pull the rear axle forward) which is why you
> should raise the pinion angle with adjustable upper control arms instead.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
> but you will notice that the front lower
>
>>control arms are longer than stock, and the overall change in wheel
>>base is probably not as much as it appears. As long as there are no
>>vibrations and the alignment is fine, I wouldn't worry too much about
>>trying to center the tires in the wheel wells. I have never had them
>>rub, and I don't believe that this will hurt anything.
>>
>>To specifically answer your question, upper adjustable arms will help
>>you bring them back. The lower ones will have to be longer than stock
>>to get it right, and the exact length will depend upon how far you
>>have to go to get the wheel wells to line up.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Guri Sandhu
>>
>>twaldron <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:<D06vb.182$8g.127696026@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com>...
>
>>>I have a Tera 4ST lift which only has lower adj. control arms. When
>>>lifted and with a properly adjusted pinion, the front and rear axles are
>>>moved closer to the center of the TJ, shortening the wheelbase.
>>>
>>>Questions:
>>>
>>>1. Would uppper adj. control arms enable me to move the axles back to
>>>the center point of the wheel wells?
>>>
>>>2. What would be the proper adj. procedure to accomplish this? Should
>>>the lowers go back to stock length and just adj. the uppers, or what?
>>>
>>>thanks in advance.
>>>--
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>>>tw
>>>03 TJ Rubicon
>>>01 XJ Sport
>>>
>>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>>-- Dave Barry
>>>
>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>>Function: noun
>>>Date: 1940
>>>
>>>Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>>World War II.
>>>
>>>http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
>>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>>_______________________________________________ ____________
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
http://www.7slotgrille.com/jeepers/t...ron/index.html
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
