Considerations on a used 95 GC
11-25-2005, 04:36 PM
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Considerations on a used 95 GC
Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
jonts, worth $1,500?
Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
jonts, worth $1,500?
Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
11-25-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle
for knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't
touch it.
Matthew Warren wrote:
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
>
>
probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle
for knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't
touch it.
Matthew Warren wrote:
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
>
>
11-25-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle
for knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't
touch it.
Matthew Warren wrote:
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
>
>
probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle
for knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't
touch it.
Matthew Warren wrote:
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
>
>
11-25-2005, 05:00 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle
for knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't
touch it.
Matthew Warren wrote:
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
>
>
probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle
for knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't
touch it.
Matthew Warren wrote:
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
>
>
11-25-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
If there is low rust, then yes, it is likely worth it. I always figure
in an engine rebuild on something with that many miles on it. Somewhere
in the $2500.00 installed neighborhood unless you install it yourself,
then just $12-1500.00 for a shop done one and a hundred or so for the
rent on an engine hoist. The hoist comes in pieces you put together and
fit in a trunk. So for $4000.00 one would have a new engine with a nice
body to go with it....
The front u-joints can be done yourself. They are labor intensive, but
not too technically hard to do.
Full time 4x4 can have you sitting on ice with only one tire
turning.... But when rolling it has the potential to put power to all 4
almost equally so it grabs the road good and allows lots of driveline
slip on corners.
Part time means you can be on ice and have one front and one rear tire
turning. Much better road grabbing traction, but one tire has to scuff
on a corner because the front and rear are locked together.
In either case, you can hit the brake pedal and end up with at least two
back tires spinning if you do it right. I sometimes can get 4 rooster
tails on my CJ on an ice start by using the brake if needed after a
stuck with two spinning.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
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Matthew Warren wrote:
>
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
in an engine rebuild on something with that many miles on it. Somewhere
in the $2500.00 installed neighborhood unless you install it yourself,
then just $12-1500.00 for a shop done one and a hundred or so for the
rent on an engine hoist. The hoist comes in pieces you put together and
fit in a trunk. So for $4000.00 one would have a new engine with a nice
body to go with it....
The front u-joints can be done yourself. They are labor intensive, but
not too technically hard to do.
Full time 4x4 can have you sitting on ice with only one tire
turning.... But when rolling it has the potential to put power to all 4
almost equally so it grabs the road good and allows lots of driveline
slip on corners.
Part time means you can be on ice and have one front and one rear tire
turning. Much better road grabbing traction, but one tire has to scuff
on a corner because the front and rear are locked together.
In either case, you can hit the brake pedal and end up with at least two
back tires spinning if you do it right. I sometimes can get 4 rooster
tails on my CJ on an ice start by using the brake if needed after a
stuck with two spinning.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Matthew Warren wrote:
>
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
11-25-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
If there is low rust, then yes, it is likely worth it. I always figure
in an engine rebuild on something with that many miles on it. Somewhere
in the $2500.00 installed neighborhood unless you install it yourself,
then just $12-1500.00 for a shop done one and a hundred or so for the
rent on an engine hoist. The hoist comes in pieces you put together and
fit in a trunk. So for $4000.00 one would have a new engine with a nice
body to go with it....
The front u-joints can be done yourself. They are labor intensive, but
not too technically hard to do.
Full time 4x4 can have you sitting on ice with only one tire
turning.... But when rolling it has the potential to put power to all 4
almost equally so it grabs the road good and allows lots of driveline
slip on corners.
Part time means you can be on ice and have one front and one rear tire
turning. Much better road grabbing traction, but one tire has to scuff
on a corner because the front and rear are locked together.
In either case, you can hit the brake pedal and end up with at least two
back tires spinning if you do it right. I sometimes can get 4 rooster
tails on my CJ on an ice start by using the brake if needed after a
stuck with two spinning.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Matthew Warren wrote:
>
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
in an engine rebuild on something with that many miles on it. Somewhere
in the $2500.00 installed neighborhood unless you install it yourself,
then just $12-1500.00 for a shop done one and a hundred or so for the
rent on an engine hoist. The hoist comes in pieces you put together and
fit in a trunk. So for $4000.00 one would have a new engine with a nice
body to go with it....
The front u-joints can be done yourself. They are labor intensive, but
not too technically hard to do.
Full time 4x4 can have you sitting on ice with only one tire
turning.... But when rolling it has the potential to put power to all 4
almost equally so it grabs the road good and allows lots of driveline
slip on corners.
Part time means you can be on ice and have one front and one rear tire
turning. Much better road grabbing traction, but one tire has to scuff
on a corner because the front and rear are locked together.
In either case, you can hit the brake pedal and end up with at least two
back tires spinning if you do it right. I sometimes can get 4 rooster
tails on my CJ on an ice start by using the brake if needed after a
stuck with two spinning.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Matthew Warren wrote:
>
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
11-25-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
If there is low rust, then yes, it is likely worth it. I always figure
in an engine rebuild on something with that many miles on it. Somewhere
in the $2500.00 installed neighborhood unless you install it yourself,
then just $12-1500.00 for a shop done one and a hundred or so for the
rent on an engine hoist. The hoist comes in pieces you put together and
fit in a trunk. So for $4000.00 one would have a new engine with a nice
body to go with it....
The front u-joints can be done yourself. They are labor intensive, but
not too technically hard to do.
Full time 4x4 can have you sitting on ice with only one tire
turning.... But when rolling it has the potential to put power to all 4
almost equally so it grabs the road good and allows lots of driveline
slip on corners.
Part time means you can be on ice and have one front and one rear tire
turning. Much better road grabbing traction, but one tire has to scuff
on a corner because the front and rear are locked together.
In either case, you can hit the brake pedal and end up with at least two
back tires spinning if you do it right. I sometimes can get 4 rooster
tails on my CJ on an ice start by using the brake if needed after a
stuck with two spinning.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Matthew Warren wrote:
>
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
in an engine rebuild on something with that many miles on it. Somewhere
in the $2500.00 installed neighborhood unless you install it yourself,
then just $12-1500.00 for a shop done one and a hundred or so for the
rent on an engine hoist. The hoist comes in pieces you put together and
fit in a trunk. So for $4000.00 one would have a new engine with a nice
body to go with it....
The front u-joints can be done yourself. They are labor intensive, but
not too technically hard to do.
Full time 4x4 can have you sitting on ice with only one tire
turning.... But when rolling it has the potential to put power to all 4
almost equally so it grabs the road good and allows lots of driveline
slip on corners.
Part time means you can be on ice and have one front and one rear tire
turning. Much better road grabbing traction, but one tire has to scuff
on a corner because the front and rear are locked together.
In either case, you can hit the brake pedal and end up with at least two
back tires spinning if you do it right. I sometimes can get 4 rooster
tails on my CJ on an ice start by using the brake if needed after a
stuck with two spinning.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Matthew Warren wrote:
>
> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap of
> miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle U
> jonts, worth $1,500?
>
> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can be
> run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective in
> snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
11-25-2005, 05:29 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
Generally speaking the Command-Trac (part time 4wd) is the same as Part Time
4wd selection in Select-Trac (full time 4wd). There are minor differences
that I am sure someone will jump in to mention.
As mentioned in another post I would be wary of buying ANY vehicle with 307k
miles as my ONLY vehicle.
Possible service needs depends on what has been done already by the previous
owner, have it checked by your mechanic.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
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> Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
> probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle for
> knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't touch
> it.
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
>> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap
>> of miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle
>> U jonts, worth $1,500?
>>
>> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
>> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can
>> be run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective
>> in snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
4wd selection in Select-Trac (full time 4wd). There are minor differences
that I am sure someone will jump in to mention.
As mentioned in another post I would be wary of buying ANY vehicle with 307k
miles as my ONLY vehicle.
Possible service needs depends on what has been done already by the previous
owner, have it checked by your mechanic.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:DPLhf.2062$A23.1158@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
> probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle for
> knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't touch
> it.
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
>> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap
>> of miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle
>> U jonts, worth $1,500?
>>
>> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
>> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can
>> be run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective
>> in snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
11-25-2005, 05:29 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
Generally speaking the Command-Trac (part time 4wd) is the same as Part Time
4wd selection in Select-Trac (full time 4wd). There are minor differences
that I am sure someone will jump in to mention.
As mentioned in another post I would be wary of buying ANY vehicle with 307k
miles as my ONLY vehicle.
Possible service needs depends on what has been done already by the previous
owner, have it checked by your mechanic.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:DPLhf.2062$A23.1158@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
> probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle for
> knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't touch
> it.
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
>> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap
>> of miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle
>> U jonts, worth $1,500?
>>
>> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
>> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can
>> be run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective
>> in snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
4wd selection in Select-Trac (full time 4wd). There are minor differences
that I am sure someone will jump in to mention.
As mentioned in another post I would be wary of buying ANY vehicle with 307k
miles as my ONLY vehicle.
Possible service needs depends on what has been done already by the previous
owner, have it checked by your mechanic.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:DPLhf.2062$A23.1158@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
> probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle for
> knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't touch
> it.
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
>> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap
>> of miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle
>> U jonts, worth $1,500?
>>
>> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
>> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can
>> be run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective
>> in snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
11-25-2005, 05:29 PM
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Re: Considerations on a used 95 GC
Generally speaking the Command-Trac (part time 4wd) is the same as Part Time
4wd selection in Select-Trac (full time 4wd). There are minor differences
that I am sure someone will jump in to mention.
As mentioned in another post I would be wary of buying ANY vehicle with 307k
miles as my ONLY vehicle.
Possible service needs depends on what has been done already by the previous
owner, have it checked by your mechanic.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:DPLhf.2062$A23.1158@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
> probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle for
> knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't touch
> it.
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
>> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap
>> of miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle
>> U jonts, worth $1,500?
>>
>> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
>> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can
>> be run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective
>> in snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
4wd selection in Select-Trac (full time 4wd). There are minor differences
that I am sure someone will jump in to mention.
As mentioned in another post I would be wary of buying ANY vehicle with 307k
miles as my ONLY vehicle.
Possible service needs depends on what has been done already by the previous
owner, have it checked by your mechanic.
"RoyJ" <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote in message
news:DPLhf.2062$A23.1158@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> Engine and tranny are going to be pretty tired (At that mileage, it
> probably has already been rebuilt). If you want it as a second vehicle for
> knocking around, it might be OK. As a primary vehicle, I wouldn't touch
> it.
>
> Matthew Warren wrote:
>> Looking at a 1995 GC (ZJ?), 307k miles, auto tranny, full time case. Was
>> wondering what I should be wary of / look for. I know that it's a heap
>> of miles, but... in the end, is this vehicle needing tires and front axle
>> U jonts, worth $1,500?
>>
>> Also, never used full time 4wd, what are the differences in performance
>> verse Part time systems? I know that the major advantage is that it can
>> be run anywhere... but beyond that I don't know much. Is it as effective
>> in snow as part time? anyway, thanks to all in advance.
