Kevin in Iowa

I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
of $31k, could use more ground clearance.

Kevin in Iowa
99XJ

Coasty

Yep, but it isn't a Wrangler, a friend bought one with the HEMI and it like
a Hummer II, it is heavy, cumbersome, and as you said ground clearance is
lacking. He got stuck twice and needed help to get out. He was embarresed
when I yanked him out with my TJ on an easy trail. Jeep is trying to
compete with the larger SUVs and sacrificing what they do best with their
off road capability.

If I wanted to pay 36k (what my friends cost) I would buy 2-TJs and have
twice the fun. I do not know where Jeep's head is but I see a pattern here.
First the GC models were grocery gettertized and them the Libby the builtt
as a grocery getter from the ground up and now the ultimate grocery getter
the Commander.

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Coasty

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"Kevin in Iowa" <kevininiowa@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
> on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
> of $31k, could use more ground clearance.
>
> Kevin in Iowa
> 99XJ
>

Coasty

Yep, but it isn't a Wrangler, a friend bought one with the HEMI and it like
a Hummer II, it is heavy, cumbersome, and as you said ground clearance is
lacking. He got stuck twice and needed help to get out. He was embarresed
when I yanked him out with my TJ on an easy trail. Jeep is trying to
compete with the larger SUVs and sacrificing what they do best with their
off road capability.

If I wanted to pay 36k (what my friends cost) I would buy 2-TJs and have
twice the fun. I do not know where Jeep's head is but I see a pattern here.
First the GC models were grocery gettertized and them the Libby the builtt
as a grocery getter from the ground up and now the ultimate grocery getter
the Commander.

--
Coasty

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"Kevin in Iowa" <kevininiowa@aol.com> wrote in message
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>I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
> on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
> of $31k, could use more ground clearance.
>
> Kevin in Iowa
> 99XJ
>

Coasty

Yep, but it isn't a Wrangler, a friend bought one with the HEMI and it like
a Hummer II, it is heavy, cumbersome, and as you said ground clearance is
lacking. He got stuck twice and needed help to get out. He was embarresed
when I yanked him out with my TJ on an easy trail. Jeep is trying to
compete with the larger SUVs and sacrificing what they do best with their
off road capability.

If I wanted to pay 36k (what my friends cost) I would buy 2-TJs and have
twice the fun. I do not know where Jeep's head is but I see a pattern here.
First the GC models were grocery gettertized and them the Libby the builtt
as a grocery getter from the ground up and now the ultimate grocery getter
the Commander.

--
Coasty

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"Kevin in Iowa" <kevininiowa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126758315.168211.238010@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
> on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
> of $31k, could use more ground clearance.
>
> Kevin in Iowa
> 99XJ
>

Coasty

Yep, but it isn't a Wrangler, a friend bought one with the HEMI and it like
a Hummer II, it is heavy, cumbersome, and as you said ground clearance is
lacking. He got stuck twice and needed help to get out. He was embarresed
when I yanked him out with my TJ on an easy trail. Jeep is trying to
compete with the larger SUVs and sacrificing what they do best with their
off road capability.

If I wanted to pay 36k (what my friends cost) I would buy 2-TJs and have
twice the fun. I do not know where Jeep's head is but I see a pattern here.
First the GC models were grocery gettertized and them the Libby the builtt
as a grocery getter from the ground up and now the ultimate grocery getter
the Commander.

--
Coasty

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"Kevin in Iowa" <kevininiowa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126758315.168211.238010@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
> on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
> of $31k, could use more ground clearance.
>
> Kevin in Iowa
> 99XJ
>

Coasty

Yep, but it isn't a Wrangler, a friend bought one with the HEMI and it like
a Hummer II, it is heavy, cumbersome, and as you said ground clearance is
lacking. He got stuck twice and needed help to get out. He was embarresed
when I yanked him out with my TJ on an easy trail. Jeep is trying to
compete with the larger SUVs and sacrificing what they do best with their
off road capability.

If I wanted to pay 36k (what my friends cost) I would buy 2-TJs and have
twice the fun. I do not know where Jeep's head is but I see a pattern here.
First the GC models were grocery gettertized and them the Libby the builtt
as a grocery getter from the ground up and now the ultimate grocery getter
the Commander.

--
Coasty

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"Kevin in Iowa" <kevininiowa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126758315.168211.238010@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
> on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
> of $31k, could use more ground clearance.
>
> Kevin in Iowa
> 99XJ
>

Coasty

Yep, but it isn't a Wrangler, a friend bought one with the HEMI and it like
a Hummer II, it is heavy, cumbersome, and as you said ground clearance is
lacking. He got stuck twice and needed help to get out. He was embarresed
when I yanked him out with my TJ on an easy trail. Jeep is trying to
compete with the larger SUVs and sacrificing what they do best with their
off road capability.

If I wanted to pay 36k (what my friends cost) I would buy 2-TJs and have
twice the fun. I do not know where Jeep's head is but I see a pattern here.
First the GC models were grocery gettertized and them the Libby the builtt
as a grocery getter from the ground up and now the ultimate grocery getter
the Commander.

--
Coasty

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"Kevin in Iowa" <kevininiowa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1126758315.168211.238010@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I stopped by the dealership tonight, they had a red Commander
> on the lot, it is an okay looking vehicle with a price tag
> of $31k, could use more ground clearance.
>
> Kevin in Iowa
> 99XJ
>

mc

What makes me sick is their designer's claims that they used the Grand
Wagoneer as inspiration for the design. I see none of the classic
curves of the GW in the Commander. It looks more like they copied an
Isuzu Trooper. In the current period where retro is cool they could
have had a smash hit with retro GW design, but DC missed the boat, the
harbor, and the ocean. While I really could use a 7 passenger Jeep
SUV, for the blandness of the Commander I'll keep my '98 TJ Sport.

mc

mc

What makes me sick is their designer's claims that they used the Grand
Wagoneer as inspiration for the design. I see none of the classic
curves of the GW in the Commander. It looks more like they copied an
Isuzu Trooper. In the current period where retro is cool they could
have had a smash hit with retro GW design, but DC missed the boat, the
harbor, and the ocean. While I really could use a 7 passenger Jeep
SUV, for the blandness of the Commander I'll keep my '98 TJ Sport.

mc

mc

What makes me sick is their designer's claims that they used the Grand
Wagoneer as inspiration for the design. I see none of the classic
curves of the GW in the Commander. It looks more like they copied an
Isuzu Trooper. In the current period where retro is cool they could
have had a smash hit with retro GW design, but DC missed the boat, the
harbor, and the ocean. While I really could use a 7 passenger Jeep
SUV, for the blandness of the Commander I'll keep my '98 TJ Sport.

mc