Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
01-24-2007, 01:39 AM
#11
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Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
Hi Carl,
Used the D-shackle, maybe at the frame to make a better connection that
may not slice the tow strap, but not between two tow straps:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TowStrapBreakshort.mpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gqydnRGcd4E8SCvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The definition of 'bad situation' is in the eye of the beholder. I have
been
> in places where 33" tires, 4 wheel drive, and a 9,000lb winch was barely
> enough to get me out. I have video.
>
> What type of roads do you travel? Highways and city streets? Back roads?
> Forest service roads? Logging roads? Long, private dirt/gravel driveways?
> 4x4 trails? There is a reason we lift and lock our 4x4's with big tires.
>
> I would say so long as you stick on the road you should be fine. A chained
> RWD van should go anywhere a FWD car can go w/o chains. Throw a few sand
> bags in the rear and you probably won't have any problems.
>
> Sometimes there is nothing to strap to and use your come-along or winch. A
> hi-lift can be very versetile but also VERY dangerous if used wrong. They
> sell attachments to hi-lift from a wheel instead of putting it under the
> frame. It can also double as a come-along. A hi-lift used improperly CAN
and
> WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> Be VERY careful linking straps and come-alongs together. You are MUCH
better
> off using D-Shackles instead of hooks. Put the shackle through the loop on
> the strap, and the loop where the come-along hook attaches to the
> come-along. Attach the pin and screw it in tight. Only use hooks if there
is
> no other alternative and a speedy recovery is needed for safety reasons.
>
> Also, be sure to carry a long sleeve shirt (tie the sleeves in knots and
put
> rocks in them) or a heavy coat. Drape the shirt or the coat over the
center
> of the strap/ come along lines. This helps keep the straps from flying if
> they break.
>
> Make no mistake about it. A broken strap CAN and WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> I'm not sure how one would install tire chains while stuck, since most
> passenger car tire chains are drive-on. I suppose you could barely jack
the
> van up and VERY CARFULLY install the chains with the van wheel 1" off the
> ground, though I do NOT advise working under a vehicle supported only by a
> jack, especially a Hi-lift.
>
> Bear in mind that YOU (the Rigger) are responsible for your safety and the
> safety of those around you during a recovery operation. This includes
> traffic passing by, anyone who stops to help/gawkers, and animal life.
>
> I can't stress this enough. Self-recovery of your vehicle is not something
> to take lightly. It's important to assess the situation for hazards and to
> check your rigging very carefully. Improper / careless setup or operation
of
> self-recovery equipment CAN and WILL caust FATAL INJURY.
>
> Last but not least, always use a nylon strap around a tree. Chains are
> second best if no strap is availible. Only use a cable as a last resort,
as
> this will damage the tree.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Carl
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Used the D-shackle, maybe at the frame to make a better connection that
may not slice the tow strap, but not between two tow straps:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TowStrapBreakshort.mpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gqydnRGcd4E8SCvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The definition of 'bad situation' is in the eye of the beholder. I have
been
> in places where 33" tires, 4 wheel drive, and a 9,000lb winch was barely
> enough to get me out. I have video.
>
> What type of roads do you travel? Highways and city streets? Back roads?
> Forest service roads? Logging roads? Long, private dirt/gravel driveways?
> 4x4 trails? There is a reason we lift and lock our 4x4's with big tires.
>
> I would say so long as you stick on the road you should be fine. A chained
> RWD van should go anywhere a FWD car can go w/o chains. Throw a few sand
> bags in the rear and you probably won't have any problems.
>
> Sometimes there is nothing to strap to and use your come-along or winch. A
> hi-lift can be very versetile but also VERY dangerous if used wrong. They
> sell attachments to hi-lift from a wheel instead of putting it under the
> frame. It can also double as a come-along. A hi-lift used improperly CAN
and
> WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> Be VERY careful linking straps and come-alongs together. You are MUCH
better
> off using D-Shackles instead of hooks. Put the shackle through the loop on
> the strap, and the loop where the come-along hook attaches to the
> come-along. Attach the pin and screw it in tight. Only use hooks if there
is
> no other alternative and a speedy recovery is needed for safety reasons.
>
> Also, be sure to carry a long sleeve shirt (tie the sleeves in knots and
put
> rocks in them) or a heavy coat. Drape the shirt or the coat over the
center
> of the strap/ come along lines. This helps keep the straps from flying if
> they break.
>
> Make no mistake about it. A broken strap CAN and WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> I'm not sure how one would install tire chains while stuck, since most
> passenger car tire chains are drive-on. I suppose you could barely jack
the
> van up and VERY CARFULLY install the chains with the van wheel 1" off the
> ground, though I do NOT advise working under a vehicle supported only by a
> jack, especially a Hi-lift.
>
> Bear in mind that YOU (the Rigger) are responsible for your safety and the
> safety of those around you during a recovery operation. This includes
> traffic passing by, anyone who stops to help/gawkers, and animal life.
>
> I can't stress this enough. Self-recovery of your vehicle is not something
> to take lightly. It's important to assess the situation for hazards and to
> check your rigging very carefully. Improper / careless setup or operation
of
> self-recovery equipment CAN and WILL caust FATAL INJURY.
>
> Last but not least, always use a nylon strap around a tree. Chains are
> second best if no strap is availible. Only use a cable as a last resort,
as
> this will damage the tree.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Carl
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01-24-2007, 01:39 AM
#12
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Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
Hi Carl,
Used the D-shackle, maybe at the frame to make a better connection that
may not slice the tow strap, but not between two tow straps:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TowStrapBreakshort.mpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gqydnRGcd4E8SCvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The definition of 'bad situation' is in the eye of the beholder. I have
been
> in places where 33" tires, 4 wheel drive, and a 9,000lb winch was barely
> enough to get me out. I have video.
>
> What type of roads do you travel? Highways and city streets? Back roads?
> Forest service roads? Logging roads? Long, private dirt/gravel driveways?
> 4x4 trails? There is a reason we lift and lock our 4x4's with big tires.
>
> I would say so long as you stick on the road you should be fine. A chained
> RWD van should go anywhere a FWD car can go w/o chains. Throw a few sand
> bags in the rear and you probably won't have any problems.
>
> Sometimes there is nothing to strap to and use your come-along or winch. A
> hi-lift can be very versetile but also VERY dangerous if used wrong. They
> sell attachments to hi-lift from a wheel instead of putting it under the
> frame. It can also double as a come-along. A hi-lift used improperly CAN
and
> WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> Be VERY careful linking straps and come-alongs together. You are MUCH
better
> off using D-Shackles instead of hooks. Put the shackle through the loop on
> the strap, and the loop where the come-along hook attaches to the
> come-along. Attach the pin and screw it in tight. Only use hooks if there
is
> no other alternative and a speedy recovery is needed for safety reasons.
>
> Also, be sure to carry a long sleeve shirt (tie the sleeves in knots and
put
> rocks in them) or a heavy coat. Drape the shirt or the coat over the
center
> of the strap/ come along lines. This helps keep the straps from flying if
> they break.
>
> Make no mistake about it. A broken strap CAN and WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> I'm not sure how one would install tire chains while stuck, since most
> passenger car tire chains are drive-on. I suppose you could barely jack
the
> van up and VERY CARFULLY install the chains with the van wheel 1" off the
> ground, though I do NOT advise working under a vehicle supported only by a
> jack, especially a Hi-lift.
>
> Bear in mind that YOU (the Rigger) are responsible for your safety and the
> safety of those around you during a recovery operation. This includes
> traffic passing by, anyone who stops to help/gawkers, and animal life.
>
> I can't stress this enough. Self-recovery of your vehicle is not something
> to take lightly. It's important to assess the situation for hazards and to
> check your rigging very carefully. Improper / careless setup or operation
of
> self-recovery equipment CAN and WILL caust FATAL INJURY.
>
> Last but not least, always use a nylon strap around a tree. Chains are
> second best if no strap is availible. Only use a cable as a last resort,
as
> this will damage the tree.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Carl
---
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Used the D-shackle, maybe at the frame to make a better connection that
may not slice the tow strap, but not between two tow straps:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TowStrapBreakshort.mpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gqydnRGcd4E8SCvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The definition of 'bad situation' is in the eye of the beholder. I have
been
> in places where 33" tires, 4 wheel drive, and a 9,000lb winch was barely
> enough to get me out. I have video.
>
> What type of roads do you travel? Highways and city streets? Back roads?
> Forest service roads? Logging roads? Long, private dirt/gravel driveways?
> 4x4 trails? There is a reason we lift and lock our 4x4's with big tires.
>
> I would say so long as you stick on the road you should be fine. A chained
> RWD van should go anywhere a FWD car can go w/o chains. Throw a few sand
> bags in the rear and you probably won't have any problems.
>
> Sometimes there is nothing to strap to and use your come-along or winch. A
> hi-lift can be very versetile but also VERY dangerous if used wrong. They
> sell attachments to hi-lift from a wheel instead of putting it under the
> frame. It can also double as a come-along. A hi-lift used improperly CAN
and
> WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> Be VERY careful linking straps and come-alongs together. You are MUCH
better
> off using D-Shackles instead of hooks. Put the shackle through the loop on
> the strap, and the loop where the come-along hook attaches to the
> come-along. Attach the pin and screw it in tight. Only use hooks if there
is
> no other alternative and a speedy recovery is needed for safety reasons.
>
> Also, be sure to carry a long sleeve shirt (tie the sleeves in knots and
put
> rocks in them) or a heavy coat. Drape the shirt or the coat over the
center
> of the strap/ come along lines. This helps keep the straps from flying if
> they break.
>
> Make no mistake about it. A broken strap CAN and WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> I'm not sure how one would install tire chains while stuck, since most
> passenger car tire chains are drive-on. I suppose you could barely jack
the
> van up and VERY CARFULLY install the chains with the van wheel 1" off the
> ground, though I do NOT advise working under a vehicle supported only by a
> jack, especially a Hi-lift.
>
> Bear in mind that YOU (the Rigger) are responsible for your safety and the
> safety of those around you during a recovery operation. This includes
> traffic passing by, anyone who stops to help/gawkers, and animal life.
>
> I can't stress this enough. Self-recovery of your vehicle is not something
> to take lightly. It's important to assess the situation for hazards and to
> check your rigging very carefully. Improper / careless setup or operation
of
> self-recovery equipment CAN and WILL caust FATAL INJURY.
>
> Last but not least, always use a nylon strap around a tree. Chains are
> second best if no strap is availible. Only use a cable as a last resort,
as
> this will damage the tree.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Carl
---
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01-24-2007, 01:39 AM
#13
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Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
Hi Carl,
Used the D-shackle, maybe at the frame to make a better connection that
may not slice the tow strap, but not between two tow straps:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TowStrapBreakshort.mpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gqydnRGcd4E8SCvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The definition of 'bad situation' is in the eye of the beholder. I have
been
> in places where 33" tires, 4 wheel drive, and a 9,000lb winch was barely
> enough to get me out. I have video.
>
> What type of roads do you travel? Highways and city streets? Back roads?
> Forest service roads? Logging roads? Long, private dirt/gravel driveways?
> 4x4 trails? There is a reason we lift and lock our 4x4's with big tires.
>
> I would say so long as you stick on the road you should be fine. A chained
> RWD van should go anywhere a FWD car can go w/o chains. Throw a few sand
> bags in the rear and you probably won't have any problems.
>
> Sometimes there is nothing to strap to and use your come-along or winch. A
> hi-lift can be very versetile but also VERY dangerous if used wrong. They
> sell attachments to hi-lift from a wheel instead of putting it under the
> frame. It can also double as a come-along. A hi-lift used improperly CAN
and
> WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> Be VERY careful linking straps and come-alongs together. You are MUCH
better
> off using D-Shackles instead of hooks. Put the shackle through the loop on
> the strap, and the loop where the come-along hook attaches to the
> come-along. Attach the pin and screw it in tight. Only use hooks if there
is
> no other alternative and a speedy recovery is needed for safety reasons.
>
> Also, be sure to carry a long sleeve shirt (tie the sleeves in knots and
put
> rocks in them) or a heavy coat. Drape the shirt or the coat over the
center
> of the strap/ come along lines. This helps keep the straps from flying if
> they break.
>
> Make no mistake about it. A broken strap CAN and WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> I'm not sure how one would install tire chains while stuck, since most
> passenger car tire chains are drive-on. I suppose you could barely jack
the
> van up and VERY CARFULLY install the chains with the van wheel 1" off the
> ground, though I do NOT advise working under a vehicle supported only by a
> jack, especially a Hi-lift.
>
> Bear in mind that YOU (the Rigger) are responsible for your safety and the
> safety of those around you during a recovery operation. This includes
> traffic passing by, anyone who stops to help/gawkers, and animal life.
>
> I can't stress this enough. Self-recovery of your vehicle is not something
> to take lightly. It's important to assess the situation for hazards and to
> check your rigging very carefully. Improper / careless setup or operation
of
> self-recovery equipment CAN and WILL caust FATAL INJURY.
>
> Last but not least, always use a nylon strap around a tree. Chains are
> second best if no strap is availible. Only use a cable as a last resort,
as
> this will damage the tree.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Carl
---
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Used the D-shackle, maybe at the frame to make a better connection that
may not slice the tow strap, but not between two tow straps:
http://www.----------.com/temp/TowStrapBreakshort.mpg
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:gqydnRGcd4E8SCvYnZ2dnUVZ_t2tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> The definition of 'bad situation' is in the eye of the beholder. I have
been
> in places where 33" tires, 4 wheel drive, and a 9,000lb winch was barely
> enough to get me out. I have video.
>
> What type of roads do you travel? Highways and city streets? Back roads?
> Forest service roads? Logging roads? Long, private dirt/gravel driveways?
> 4x4 trails? There is a reason we lift and lock our 4x4's with big tires.
>
> I would say so long as you stick on the road you should be fine. A chained
> RWD van should go anywhere a FWD car can go w/o chains. Throw a few sand
> bags in the rear and you probably won't have any problems.
>
> Sometimes there is nothing to strap to and use your come-along or winch. A
> hi-lift can be very versetile but also VERY dangerous if used wrong. They
> sell attachments to hi-lift from a wheel instead of putting it under the
> frame. It can also double as a come-along. A hi-lift used improperly CAN
and
> WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> Be VERY careful linking straps and come-alongs together. You are MUCH
better
> off using D-Shackles instead of hooks. Put the shackle through the loop on
> the strap, and the loop where the come-along hook attaches to the
> come-along. Attach the pin and screw it in tight. Only use hooks if there
is
> no other alternative and a speedy recovery is needed for safety reasons.
>
> Also, be sure to carry a long sleeve shirt (tie the sleeves in knots and
put
> rocks in them) or a heavy coat. Drape the shirt or the coat over the
center
> of the strap/ come along lines. This helps keep the straps from flying if
> they break.
>
> Make no mistake about it. A broken strap CAN and WILL cause FATAL INJURY.
>
> I'm not sure how one would install tire chains while stuck, since most
> passenger car tire chains are drive-on. I suppose you could barely jack
the
> van up and VERY CARFULLY install the chains with the van wheel 1" off the
> ground, though I do NOT advise working under a vehicle supported only by a
> jack, especially a Hi-lift.
>
> Bear in mind that YOU (the Rigger) are responsible for your safety and the
> safety of those around you during a recovery operation. This includes
> traffic passing by, anyone who stops to help/gawkers, and animal life.
>
> I can't stress this enough. Self-recovery of your vehicle is not something
> to take lightly. It's important to assess the situation for hazards and to
> check your rigging very carefully. Improper / careless setup or operation
of
> self-recovery equipment CAN and WILL caust FATAL INJURY.
>
> Last but not least, always use a nylon strap around a tree. Chains are
> second best if no strap is availible. Only use a cable as a last resort,
as
> this will damage the tree.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Carl
---
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01-24-2007, 03:10 AM
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Re: Come along, jerk strap
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Re: Come along, jerk strap
>> On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
>> history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I would never use anything the Germans used.
>>> I never lie.
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>> history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I would never use anything the Germans used.
>>> I never lie.
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Re: Come along, jerk strap
>> On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
>> history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I would never use anything the Germans used.
>>> I never lie.
On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
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>> history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I would never use anything the Germans used.
>>> I never lie.
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Re: Come along, jerk strap
>> On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
>> history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I would never use anything the Germans used.
>>> I never lie.
On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote FROM and THROUGH:
> individual.net
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>> history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I would never use anything the Germans used.
>>> I never lie.
On this day of this month, in a year likely to be unrecorded in human
history, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote FROM and THROUGH:
> individual.net
individual.net=individual.de
Institution:
Freie Universität Berlin Zentraleinrichtung für Datenverarbeitung
Address:
ZEDAT
Fabeckstr. 32
14195 Berlin
Germany
Institution:
Freie Universität Berlin - vertreten durch den Präsidenten Univ. -Prof.
Dr. Dieter Lenzen
Anschrift:
ZEDAT, Fabeckstraße 32, 14195 Berlin
Kontakt:
individual.de
Rechtsform:
Die Freie Universität Berlin ist eine Körperschaft des öffentlichen Rechts
gem. §§ 1 und 2 Berliner Hochschulgesetz (BerlHG).
Umsatzsteuer-Identifikationsnummer:
DE 811304768
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01-24-2007, 08:54 AM
#18
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Re: Come along, jerk strap
In my situation i had a come along but 2 x 20 foot tow straps with no
elasticity. (Yes with the metal hooks, I'm looking for ****** straps
presently). My point is - the come along will be tedious with an
elastic ****** strap. You'll be winching the thing till it is fully
stretched out.
elasticity. (Yes with the metal hooks, I'm looking for ****** straps
presently). My point is - the come along will be tedious with an
elastic ****** strap. You'll be winching the thing till it is fully
stretched out.
01-24-2007, 08:54 AM
#19
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Re: Come along, jerk strap
In my situation i had a come along but 2 x 20 foot tow straps with no
elasticity. (Yes with the metal hooks, I'm looking for ****** straps
presently). My point is - the come along will be tedious with an
elastic ****** strap. You'll be winching the thing till it is fully
stretched out.
elasticity. (Yes with the metal hooks, I'm looking for ****** straps
presently). My point is - the come along will be tedious with an
elastic ****** strap. You'll be winching the thing till it is fully
stretched out.
01-24-2007, 08:54 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Come along, jerk strap
In my situation i had a come along but 2 x 20 foot tow straps with no
elasticity. (Yes with the metal hooks, I'm looking for ****** straps
presently). My point is - the come along will be tedious with an
elastic ****** strap. You'll be winching the thing till it is fully
stretched out.
elasticity. (Yes with the metal hooks, I'm looking for ****** straps
presently). My point is - the come along will be tedious with an
elastic ****** strap. You'll be winching the thing till it is fully
stretched out.
