Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
Mike Romain wrote:
> The come-a-alongs were tagged sideways to a tree so the XJ moved on > their arc as the Warn extracted him. Very good point, and something I wanted to mention as well, as it matters in safety. Come-a-longs are cheap and portable and are fine for light jobs where heavy loads that wheel freely must be moved, to secure a stationary object while it is moved with other means (preferably a winch) and for lifting moderate loads vertically. Nothing more. When used for vehicle extraction, several safety problems arise. The worst is that when cranking, you are directly inline with the cable; if it snaps, you WILL lose body parts and death is the usual result. For extraction, I give it a thumbs-down. For securing a vehicle while other means of extraction can be located, a thumbs-UP, provided you NEVER, EVER attach it to a vehicle; use a stationary object such as a large tree, and keep others away from the slash-zone. My preferences for vehicle extraction: 1. Vehicle-mounted winch with heavy cable and hook. You can do damn near anything with this setup. 2. 3" or better (Min. 35,000 lb.) non-stretch recovery strap w/o hooks. I've seen these sold in 50' lengths; perfect for recovery on vehicles without hooks; easily axle-wrapped, and can also be used to hold stationary objects in place while help arrives. Best used with heavy, sure-footed recovery vehicles. 3. 2.5" or better (7,500 lb +) snatch strap w/o hooks. Same as above, but when used with a light recovery vehicle and a running start, lets intertia and torque work together. 4. Case-hardened chain, the heavier the better. Usually reserved for heavy vehicle extraction. Minimal danger of snapback when kept short. Can be doubled/trippled to increase pulling capacity. Frame-mounted tow hooks are always the best anchor point; Class II+ hitches using a D-shackle in place of the ball is acceptable, but if the receiver is a cheapo, expect to lose it along with your rear bumper in the process. |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
"The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a comfortable east chair and a warm fire." Now that's some funny stuff! A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would be cheaper would be my choice. Jon |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
"The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a comfortable east chair and a warm fire." Now that's some funny stuff! A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would be cheaper would be my choice. Jon |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
"The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a comfortable east chair and a warm fire." Now that's some funny stuff! A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would be cheaper would be my choice. Jon |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
"The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a comfortable east chair and a warm fire." Now that's some funny stuff! A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would be cheaper would be my choice. Jon |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:41:16 -0800, Jon wrote:
> "The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a > comfortable east chair and a warm fire." > > Now that's some funny stuff! > > A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer > your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're > dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a > bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would > be cheaper would be my choice. > > Jon Another advantage of the cable style is that they require less clearance than chains. I've got heavy-duty chains for the rear of my MJ (XJ has the same problems) but I only use them for limited situations where I need the traction for a limited, well defined pull or where buried rocks/stumps would trash the cable type in a hurry. I keep a set of cables in the tool box to use on the road. With 235x75x15 tires, there just isn't enough wheel well clearance if the wheels spin up to higher speeds. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:41:16 -0800, Jon wrote:
> "The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a > comfortable east chair and a warm fire." > > Now that's some funny stuff! > > A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer > your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're > dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a > bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would > be cheaper would be my choice. > > Jon Another advantage of the cable style is that they require less clearance than chains. I've got heavy-duty chains for the rear of my MJ (XJ has the same problems) but I only use them for limited situations where I need the traction for a limited, well defined pull or where buried rocks/stumps would trash the cable type in a hurry. I keep a set of cables in the tool box to use on the road. With 235x75x15 tires, there just isn't enough wheel well clearance if the wheels spin up to higher speeds. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:41:16 -0800, Jon wrote:
> "The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a > comfortable east chair and a warm fire." > > Now that's some funny stuff! > > A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer > your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're > dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a > bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would > be cheaper would be my choice. > > Jon Another advantage of the cable style is that they require less clearance than chains. I've got heavy-duty chains for the rear of my MJ (XJ has the same problems) but I only use them for limited situations where I need the traction for a limited, well defined pull or where buried rocks/stumps would trash the cable type in a hurry. I keep a set of cables in the tool box to use on the road. With 235x75x15 tires, there just isn't enough wheel well clearance if the wheels spin up to higher speeds. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: Come along, jerk strap, and tire chains
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:41:16 -0800, Jon wrote:
> "The overall best vehicle for your once in 5 years case is a > comfortable east chair and a warm fire." > > Now that's some funny stuff! > > A lot of good ideas and solid advice, if you ask me. And to answer > your question, cable chains are quicker on/off because they're > dimensionally stable, as opposed to chains in a pile...and they're a > bit shorter in lifespan if you use them over the road. Whatever would > be cheaper would be my choice. > > Jon Another advantage of the cable style is that they require less clearance than chains. I've got heavy-duty chains for the rear of my MJ (XJ has the same problems) but I only use them for limited situations where I need the traction for a limited, well defined pull or where buried rocks/stumps would trash the cable type in a hurry. I keep a set of cables in the tool box to use on the road. With 235x75x15 tires, there just isn't enough wheel well clearance if the wheels spin up to higher speeds. -- Will Honea <whonea@yahoo.com> |
Re: Come along, jerk strap
There you go again, the jealous, really jealous, I can't believe how
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