Michael White

How did you finagle yours so you could "pull"? Even after removing the fuse
box, there doesn't seem to be any way to get behind the spring and pull.
The best I can seem to get is push or pry.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Rusted (no@email.com) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:19 am:

> Did you get it figured out yet? I remember mine being a pain, but it only
> took a few minutes to get it right. Seems like I was able to install mine
> with pliers and a good pull.
>
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:f_i8e.7602$An2.4099@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> All,
>>
>> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
>> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
>> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
>> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal
>> is
>> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
>> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>>
>> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp
>> onto
>> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
>> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar
>> for
>> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
>> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>>
>> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
>> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
>> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

Michael White

How did you finagle yours so you could "pull"? Even after removing the fuse
box, there doesn't seem to be any way to get behind the spring and pull.
The best I can seem to get is push or pry.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Rusted (no@email.com) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:19 am:

> Did you get it figured out yet? I remember mine being a pain, but it only
> took a few minutes to get it right. Seems like I was able to install mine
> with pliers and a good pull.
>
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:f_i8e.7602$An2.4099@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> All,
>>
>> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
>> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
>> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
>> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal
>> is
>> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
>> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>>
>> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp
>> onto
>> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
>> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar
>> for
>> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
>> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>>
>> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
>> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
>> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

Michael White

How did you finagle yours so you could "pull"? Even after removing the fuse
box, there doesn't seem to be any way to get behind the spring and pull.
The best I can seem to get is push or pry.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Rusted (no@email.com) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 01:19 am:

> Did you get it figured out yet? I remember mine being a pain, but it only
> took a few minutes to get it right. Seems like I was able to install mine
> with pliers and a good pull.
>
>
> "Michael White" <michael12@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:f_i8e.7602$An2.4099@newsread2.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>> All,
>>
>> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
>> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
>> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
>> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal
>> is
>> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
>> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>>
>> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp
>> onto
>> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
>> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar
>> for
>> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
>> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>>
>> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
>> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
>> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

Mike Romain

Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
onto the bar.

I don't remember it being difficult.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal is
> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>
> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp onto
> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar for
> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>
> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Mike Romain

Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
onto the bar.

I don't remember it being difficult.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal is
> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>
> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp onto
> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar for
> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>
> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Mike Romain

Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
onto the bar.

I don't remember it being difficult.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal is
> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>
> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp onto
> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar for
> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>
> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Mike Romain

Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
onto the bar.

I don't remember it being difficult.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Michael White wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal is
> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>
> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp onto
> the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a really
> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar for
> about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry bar
> has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>
> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> --
> Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
> fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Michael White

Ah, that seems to be the key. I don't have an "anchor bar". My return
spring runs through a piece of metal that has a hole in it. One end of the
return spring runs through the hole, the other is looped onto the clutch
pedal. I can't remove the return spring from the hole because of the way
it's been inserted. I'd have to remove the entire brake/clutch pedal and
steering assembly. When they built it, I imagine the whole clutch/brake
pedal assembly was built up before being installed.

I was reading other sections of the service manual, and it talks about
inserting shims to stretch out springs. If that doesn't work, then a grade
8 bolt located near the current mounting location will probably work well.

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 08:11 am:

> Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
> an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
> pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
> onto the bar.
>
> I don't remember it being difficult.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
>> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
>> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
>> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal
>> is
>> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
>> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>>
>> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp
>> onto the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a
>> really
>> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar
>> for about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry
>> bar has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>>
>> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
>> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
>> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

Michael White

Ah, that seems to be the key. I don't have an "anchor bar". My return
spring runs through a piece of metal that has a hole in it. One end of the
return spring runs through the hole, the other is looped onto the clutch
pedal. I can't remove the return spring from the hole because of the way
it's been inserted. I'd have to remove the entire brake/clutch pedal and
steering assembly. When they built it, I imagine the whole clutch/brake
pedal assembly was built up before being installed.

I was reading other sections of the service manual, and it talks about
inserting shims to stretch out springs. If that doesn't work, then a grade
8 bolt located near the current mounting location will probably work well.

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 08:11 am:

> Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
> an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
> pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
> onto the bar.
>
> I don't remember it being difficult.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
>> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
>> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
>> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal
>> is
>> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
>> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>>
>> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp
>> onto the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a
>> really
>> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar
>> for about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry
>> bar has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>>
>> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
>> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
>> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.

Michael White

Ah, that seems to be the key. I don't have an "anchor bar". My return
spring runs through a piece of metal that has a hole in it. One end of the
return spring runs through the hole, the other is looped onto the clutch
pedal. I can't remove the return spring from the hole because of the way
it's been inserted. I'd have to remove the entire brake/clutch pedal and
steering assembly. When they built it, I imagine the whole clutch/brake
pedal assembly was built up before being installed.

I was reading other sections of the service manual, and it talks about
inserting shims to stretch out springs. If that doesn't work, then a grade
8 bolt located near the current mounting location will probably work well.

Thanks.
--
Michael White "To protect people from the effects of folly is to
fill the world with fools." -Herbert Spencer

Mike Romain (romainm@sympatico.ca) wrote on Sunday 17 April 2005 08:11 am:

> Hmmm..... If I remember right I put it on the pedal first, then it was
> an easy pull/push up to the anchor bar behind the dash. I do have a
> pair of needle nosed vise grips I use on springs so I could 'push' it up
> onto the bar.
>
> I don't remember it being difficult.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Michael White wrote:
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'm having difficulties re-installing the clutch return spring on my '82
>> Scrambler. The spring I'm referring to is the one attached to the clutch
>> pedal on the inside of the Jeep. It still needs to be attached to the
>> pedal. Trying to connect the spring to the clutch pedal while the pedal
>> is
>> removed is not workable. The pedal needs to be slid onto the shaft
>> straight, otherwise the needle bearings pop out.
>>
>> The only way I see to put the return spring onto the pedal is to clamp
>> onto the return spring with a pair of vise grips and then pry with a
>> really
>> large pry bar on the vise grips. I've been working with an 18" pry bar
>> for about an hour or so, and gotten close a couple of times, but the pry
>> bar has a tendency to slip off the vise grips.
>>
>> This is really starting to **** me off, and it's already turned what I
>> thought would be a two hour job into an all day job (so much for my
>> Saturday -again-). Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.