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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-08-2007 12:02 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Hi Jennifer,
The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type centrifugal
pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy to
disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a bang,
that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
>
> Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
>
> I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

smelly, and it
> doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

snow wheeling
> or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised I

have not
> had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

crawling this
> spring.
> -jenn




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-08-2007 12:02 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Hi Jennifer,
The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type centrifugal
pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy to
disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a bang,
that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
>
> Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
>
> I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

smelly, and it
> doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

snow wheeling
> or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised I

have not
> had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

crawling this
> spring.
> -jenn




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 02-08-2007 12:02 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Hi Jennifer,
The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type centrifugal
pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy to
disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a bang,
that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------

"jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
>
> Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
>
> I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

smelly, and it
> doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

snow wheeling
> or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised I

have not
> had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

crawling this
> spring.
> -jenn




Earle Horton 02-08-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Bill,

When I was younger I had the dampener springs fall out of the clutch on my
Valiant, so I welded the center together. I drove it like that for a long
time too. I agree, "remanufactured or new stock disk and pressure plate"
for this application, especially if the first set lasted 8-9 years.
Remember that there are exactly two clutch pedal positions, up and down.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52vp8hF1qqa16U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Jennifer,
> The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
> traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type

centrifugal
> pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy

to
> disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
> http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a

bang,
> that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> > Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
> >
> > Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
> >
> > I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

> smelly, and it
> > doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

> snow wheeling
> > or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised

I
> have not
> > had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

> crawling this
> > spring.
> > -jenn

>
>




Earle Horton 02-08-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Bill,

When I was younger I had the dampener springs fall out of the clutch on my
Valiant, so I welded the center together. I drove it like that for a long
time too. I agree, "remanufactured or new stock disk and pressure plate"
for this application, especially if the first set lasted 8-9 years.
Remember that there are exactly two clutch pedal positions, up and down.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52vp8hF1qqa16U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Jennifer,
> The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
> traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type

centrifugal
> pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy

to
> disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
> http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a

bang,
> that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> > Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
> >
> > Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
> >
> > I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

> smelly, and it
> > doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

> snow wheeling
> > or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised

I
> have not
> > had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

> crawling this
> > spring.
> > -jenn

>
>




Earle Horton 02-08-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Bill,

When I was younger I had the dampener springs fall out of the clutch on my
Valiant, so I welded the center together. I drove it like that for a long
time too. I agree, "remanufactured or new stock disk and pressure plate"
for this application, especially if the first set lasted 8-9 years.
Remember that there are exactly two clutch pedal positions, up and down.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52vp8hF1qqa16U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Jennifer,
> The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
> traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type

centrifugal
> pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy

to
> disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
> http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a

bang,
> that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> > Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
> >
> > Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
> >
> > I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

> smelly, and it
> > doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

> snow wheeling
> > or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised

I
> have not
> > had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

> crawling this
> > spring.
> > -jenn

>
>




Earle Horton 02-08-2007 01:20 AM

Re: Clutch?
 
Bill,

When I was younger I had the dampener springs fall out of the clutch on my
Valiant, so I welded the center together. I drove it like that for a long
time too. I agree, "remanufactured or new stock disk and pressure plate"
for this application, especially if the first set lasted 8-9 years.
Remember that there are exactly two clutch pedal positions, up and down.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:52vp8hF1qqa16U1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi Jennifer,
> The dampener springs are on a radius separating the center disk from
> traction pad: http://www.----------.com/clutch/ The racing type

centrifugal
> pressure plates with the fingers are the ones that two men an a small boy

to
> disengage. A Corvette "street" twin disk:
> http://tradezone.com/vette/mcleod.html Which probably releases with a

bang,
> that'll feel like some hit you in the back with a sledge hammer.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "jbjeep" <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote in message
> news:el9ls25r9n9ruoddq9b9f19jdq1d9inq6c@4ax.com...
> > Would I notice more noise in there? lol.
> >
> > Explain about "lack of dampener springs" please.
> >
> > I dont know how clutches work, just that mine has been slipping, hot,

> smelly, and it
> > doesnt engage near the top of the pedal anymore. Most of this was when

> snow wheeling
> > or on hill climbs in the last couple of months. I am actually suprised

I
> have not
> > had troubles with it sooner. I need to replace it prior to doing much

> crawling this
> > spring.
> > -jenn

>
>




Highcountry 02-08-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Clutch?
 

Will you guys forgive me for another lecture?

Given that you stated that it is slipping, there is only ONE way to
repair it correctly. You will need to replace the Clutch Disc,
Clutch Cover (pressure plate), Carrier Bearing Assembly (throw out
bearing) and the most often neglected part, the FLYWHEEL itself.

You can "cheap out" and get the flywheel resurfaced, it may work for a
while. However, the days of big heavy hunks of steel for flywheels are
over. The "fuel efficient" gurus have mandated light weight, and that
precludes durability. Another thing to watch for is the beloved "Made
in China" label. Most folks don't know, but ZOOM performance
clutches are made in China!

If you plan on keeping the Jeep for a long time, the only true fix is
spend what it takes to purchase ALL of the above listed parts from
Jeep and be finished for good. I have seen too many "re-dos" caused by
partial fixes.

Good Luck, Bruce


Highcountry 02-08-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Clutch?
 

Will you guys forgive me for another lecture?

Given that you stated that it is slipping, there is only ONE way to
repair it correctly. You will need to replace the Clutch Disc,
Clutch Cover (pressure plate), Carrier Bearing Assembly (throw out
bearing) and the most often neglected part, the FLYWHEEL itself.

You can "cheap out" and get the flywheel resurfaced, it may work for a
while. However, the days of big heavy hunks of steel for flywheels are
over. The "fuel efficient" gurus have mandated light weight, and that
precludes durability. Another thing to watch for is the beloved "Made
in China" label. Most folks don't know, but ZOOM performance
clutches are made in China!

If you plan on keeping the Jeep for a long time, the only true fix is
spend what it takes to purchase ALL of the above listed parts from
Jeep and be finished for good. I have seen too many "re-dos" caused by
partial fixes.

Good Luck, Bruce


Highcountry 02-08-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Clutch?
 

Will you guys forgive me for another lecture?

Given that you stated that it is slipping, there is only ONE way to
repair it correctly. You will need to replace the Clutch Disc,
Clutch Cover (pressure plate), Carrier Bearing Assembly (throw out
bearing) and the most often neglected part, the FLYWHEEL itself.

You can "cheap out" and get the flywheel resurfaced, it may work for a
while. However, the days of big heavy hunks of steel for flywheels are
over. The "fuel efficient" gurus have mandated light weight, and that
precludes durability. Another thing to watch for is the beloved "Made
in China" label. Most folks don't know, but ZOOM performance
clutches are made in China!

If you plan on keeping the Jeep for a long time, the only true fix is
spend what it takes to purchase ALL of the above listed parts from
Jeep and be finished for good. I have seen too many "re-dos" caused by
partial fixes.

Good Luck, Bruce



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