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Mark12211 12-03-2004 06:46 PM

Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html

Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
posted 11/24/2004

KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is being
formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:



If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.

Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on model
years 1999 through 2004.

For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at 913-888-7100.


Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.

TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to residents
of Kansas and Missouri only:


The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering wheel and
front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through the
steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.

DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front brakes.

The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.


Check out the entire article here.


TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over Brakes
On Jeeps

Joseph P 12-03-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
Mark12211 wrote:
| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
|
| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
|
| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
| suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
| Here's the details:
|
|
|
| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
| to you.
|
| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
| front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
|
| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
| 913-888-7100.
|
|
| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
|
| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
|
|
| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
|
| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
| front brakes.
|
| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
|
|
| Check out the entire article here.
|
|
| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
| Over Brakes On Jeeps


Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
Ohio.


--
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
written by the wisest of mules.

http://www.----inggoogleit.com/

JEGP
O|||||||O
NC, USA

MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



Joseph P 12-03-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
Mark12211 wrote:
| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
|
| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
|
| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
| suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
| Here's the details:
|
|
|
| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
| to you.
|
| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
| front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
|
| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
| 913-888-7100.
|
|
| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
|
| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
|
|
| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
|
| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
| front brakes.
|
| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
|
|
| Check out the entire article here.
|
|
| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
| Over Brakes On Jeeps


Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
Ohio.


--
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
written by the wisest of mules.

http://www.----inggoogleit.com/

JEGP
O|||||||O
NC, USA

MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



Joseph P 12-03-2004 07:04 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
Mark12211 wrote:
| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
|
| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
|
| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
| suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
| Here's the details:
|
|
|
| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
| to you.
|
| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
| front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
|
| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
| 913-888-7100.
|
|
| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
|
| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
|
|
| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
|
| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
| front brakes.
|
| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
|
|
| Check out the entire article here.
|
|
| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
| Over Brakes On Jeeps


Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
Ohio.


--
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
written by the wisest of mules.

http://www.----inggoogleit.com/

JEGP
O|||||||O
NC, USA

MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



SoK66 12-03-2004 07:51 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
> http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>
> Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
> posted 11/24/2004
>
> KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is
> being
> formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
>
>
>
> If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.
>
> Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
> alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on
> model
> years 1999 through 2004.
>
> For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> 913-888-7100.
>
>
> Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>
> TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
> residents
> of Kansas and Missouri only:
>
>
> The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
> wheel and
> front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through
> the
> steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>
> DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
> brakes.
>
> The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
> residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>
>
> Check out the entire article here.
>
>
> TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
> Brakes
> On Jeeps


Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue. Now,
my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles. The
dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan to
just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the DC
composit crap, which is the root of problem.



SoK66 12-03-2004 07:51 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
> http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>
> Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
> posted 11/24/2004
>
> KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is
> being
> formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
>
>
>
> If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.
>
> Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
> alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on
> model
> years 1999 through 2004.
>
> For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> 913-888-7100.
>
>
> Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>
> TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
> residents
> of Kansas and Missouri only:
>
>
> The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
> wheel and
> front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through
> the
> steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>
> DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
> brakes.
>
> The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
> residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>
>
> Check out the entire article here.
>
>
> TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
> Brakes
> On Jeeps


Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue. Now,
my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles. The
dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan to
just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the DC
composit crap, which is the root of problem.



SoK66 12-03-2004 07:51 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
> http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>
> Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
> posted 11/24/2004
>
> KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is
> being
> formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
>
>
>
> If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.
>
> Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
> alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on
> model
> years 1999 through 2004.
>
> For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> 913-888-7100.
>
>
> Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>
> TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
> residents
> of Kansas and Missouri only:
>
>
> The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
> wheel and
> front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through
> the
> steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>
> DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
> brakes.
>
> The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
> residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>
>
> Check out the entire article here.
>
>
> TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
> Brakes
> On Jeeps


Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue. Now,
my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles. The
dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan to
just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the DC
composit crap, which is the root of problem.



L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-03-2004 09:39 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
There may be an alignment problem with the calipers, too.
Otherwise, why would they replace them under warranty, too?
http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
> > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> >
> > Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
> > posted 11/24/2004
> >
> > KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is
> > being
> > formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
> >
> >
> >
> > If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.
> >
> > Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
> > alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on
> > model
> > years 1999 through 2004.
> >
> > For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> > 913-888-7100.
> >
> >
> > Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> >
> > TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
> > residents
> > of Kansas and Missouri only:
> >
> >
> > The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
> > wheel and
> > front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through
> > the
> > steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> >
> > DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
> > brakes.
> >
> > The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
> > residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> >
> >
> > Check out the entire article here.
> >
> >
> > TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
> > Brakes
> > On Jeeps

>
> Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
> chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
> pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue. Now,
> my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles. The
> dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan to
> just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the DC
> composit crap, which is the root of problem.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-03-2004 09:39 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
There may be an alignment problem with the calipers, too.
Otherwise, why would they replace them under warranty, too?
http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
> > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> >
> > Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
> > posted 11/24/2004
> >
> > KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is
> > being
> > formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
> >
> >
> >
> > If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.
> >
> > Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
> > alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on
> > model
> > years 1999 through 2004.
> >
> > For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> > 913-888-7100.
> >
> >
> > Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> >
> > TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
> > residents
> > of Kansas and Missouri only:
> >
> >
> > The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
> > wheel and
> > front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through
> > the
> > steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> >
> > DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
> > brakes.
> >
> > The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
> > residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> >
> >
> > Check out the entire article here.
> >
> >
> > TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
> > Brakes
> > On Jeeps

>
> Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
> chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
> pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue. Now,
> my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles. The
> dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan to
> just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the DC
> composit crap, which is the root of problem.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 12-03-2004 09:39 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
There may be an alignment problem with the calipers, too.
Otherwise, why would they replace them under warranty, too?
http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

SoK66 wrote:
>
> "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
> > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> >
> > Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against DaimlerChrysler -
> > posted 11/24/2004
> >
> > KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit is
> > being
> > formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
> >
> >
> >
> > If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to you.
> >
> > Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
> > alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes on
> > model
> > years 1999 through 2004.
> >
> > For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> > 913-888-7100.
> >
> >
> > Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> >
> > TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
> > residents
> > of Kansas and Missouri only:
> >
> >
> > The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
> > wheel and
> > front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations through
> > the
> > steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> >
> > DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
> > brakes.
> >
> > The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and Missouri
> > residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> >
> >
> > Check out the entire article here.
> >
> >
> > TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
> > Brakes
> > On Jeeps

>
> Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
> chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
> pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue. Now,
> my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles. The
> dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan to
> just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the DC
> composit crap, which is the root of problem.


SoK66 12-03-2004 10:38 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
I'm not sure about the caliper alignment, but the one's they installed are
of a newer design. When I complained about it my dealer Service Manager took
it in immediately and swapped them out. He said it's a campaign and covered
by a DC TSB. (Not sure the number). I think '02 MY was the change point for
the newer caliper design for WJs, not sure.

I had a small amount of chatter return after they changed them out but never
bothered to go after it any longer as I planned to trade the thing off
anyway. FWIW, that was the only problem I had with it in over 20k miles, it
was a great vehicle for what I needed at the time. Sorry to see what they've
done to the new one.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41B12348.E3B6A452@cox.net...
> There may be an alignment problem with the calipers, too.
> Otherwise, why would they replace them under warranty, too?
> http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
>> > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>> >
>> > Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>> > DaimlerChrysler -
>> > posted 11/24/2004
>> >
>> > KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit
>> > is
>> > being
>> > formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to
>> > you.
>> >
>> > Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
>> > alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes
>> > on
>> > model
>> > years 1999 through 2004.
>> >
>> > For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>> > 913-888-7100.
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>> >
>> > TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
>> > residents
>> > of Kansas and Missouri only:
>> >
>> >
>> > The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
>> > wheel and
>> > front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations
>> > through
>> > the
>> > steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>> >
>> > DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
>> > brakes.
>> >
>> > The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>> > Missouri
>> > residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Check out the entire article here.
>> >
>> >
>> > TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
>> > Brakes
>> > On Jeeps

>>
>> Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
>> chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
>> pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue.
>> Now,
>> my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles.
>> The
>> dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan
>> to
>> just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the
>> DC
>> composit crap, which is the root of problem.




SoK66 12-03-2004 10:38 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
I'm not sure about the caliper alignment, but the one's they installed are
of a newer design. When I complained about it my dealer Service Manager took
it in immediately and swapped them out. He said it's a campaign and covered
by a DC TSB. (Not sure the number). I think '02 MY was the change point for
the newer caliper design for WJs, not sure.

I had a small amount of chatter return after they changed them out but never
bothered to go after it any longer as I planned to trade the thing off
anyway. FWIW, that was the only problem I had with it in over 20k miles, it
was a great vehicle for what I needed at the time. Sorry to see what they've
done to the new one.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41B12348.E3B6A452@cox.net...
> There may be an alignment problem with the calipers, too.
> Otherwise, why would they replace them under warranty, too?
> http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
>> > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>> >
>> > Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>> > DaimlerChrysler -
>> > posted 11/24/2004
>> >
>> > KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit
>> > is
>> > being
>> > formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to
>> > you.
>> >
>> > Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
>> > alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes
>> > on
>> > model
>> > years 1999 through 2004.
>> >
>> > For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>> > 913-888-7100.
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>> >
>> > TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
>> > residents
>> > of Kansas and Missouri only:
>> >
>> >
>> > The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
>> > wheel and
>> > front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations
>> > through
>> > the
>> > steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>> >
>> > DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
>> > brakes.
>> >
>> > The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>> > Missouri
>> > residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Check out the entire article here.
>> >
>> >
>> > TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
>> > Brakes
>> > On Jeeps

>>
>> Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
>> chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
>> pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue.
>> Now,
>> my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles.
>> The
>> dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan
>> to
>> just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the
>> DC
>> composit crap, which is the root of problem.




SoK66 12-03-2004 10:38 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
I'm not sure about the caliper alignment, but the one's they installed are
of a newer design. When I complained about it my dealer Service Manager took
it in immediately and swapped them out. He said it's a campaign and covered
by a DC TSB. (Not sure the number). I think '02 MY was the change point for
the newer caliper design for WJs, not sure.

I had a small amount of chatter return after they changed them out but never
bothered to go after it any longer as I planned to trade the thing off
anyway. FWIW, that was the only problem I had with it in over 20k miles, it
was a great vehicle for what I needed at the time. Sorry to see what they've
done to the new one.

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41B12348.E3B6A452@cox.net...
> There may be an alignment problem with the calipers, too.
> Otherwise, why would they replace them under warranty, too?
> http://www.----------.com/WJCaliber.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> SoK66 wrote:
>>
>> "Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:20041203184632.15969.00001471@mb-m02.aol.com...
>> > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>> >
>> > Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>> > DaimlerChrysler -
>> > posted 11/24/2004
>> >
>> > KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action suit
>> > is
>> > being
>> > formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees. Here's the details:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming to
>> > you.
>> >
>> > Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson counties
>> > alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective front brakes
>> > on
>> > model
>> > years 1999 through 2004.
>> >
>> > For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>> > 913-888-7100.
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>> >
>> > TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open to
>> > residents
>> > of Kansas and Missouri only:
>> >
>> >
>> > The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the steering
>> > wheel and
>> > front wheels "shake" and that drivers encounter severe vibrations
>> > through
>> > the
>> > steering wheel, floor, seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>> >
>> > DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the front
>> > brakes.
>> >
>> > The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>> > Missouri
>> > residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>> >
>> >
>> > Check out the entire article here.
>> >
>> >
>> > TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit Over
>> > Brakes
>> > On Jeeps

>>
>> Yep, well known problem on WJs. My '01 (traded off last summer) started
>> chattering at about 7k, the dealer replaced the fromt rotors, calipers &
>> pads FOC under warranty. No campaign as it's likely not a safety issue.
>> Now,
>> my neighbor also has an 01 with the same problem, but about 60k miles.
>> The
>> dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed. We plan
>> to
>> just wswap out the rotors & pads, using aftermarket iron rotors, not the
>> DC
>> composit crap, which is the root of problem.




Bob Casanova 12-04-2004 03:51 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:51:18 -0700, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "SoK66"
<SoK66@frontier.net>:

<snip>

At $700k I think I'd pass too... ;-)

>The
>dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed.


<snip>

--

Bob C.

Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov

Bob Casanova 12-04-2004 03:51 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:51:18 -0700, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "SoK66"
<SoK66@frontier.net>:

<snip>

At $700k I think I'd pass too... ;-)

>The
>dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed.


<snip>

--

Bob C.

Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov

Bob Casanova 12-04-2004 03:51 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 17:51:18 -0700, the following appeared in
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by "SoK66"
<SoK66@frontier.net>:

<snip>

At $700k I think I'd pass too... ;-)

>The
>dealer wanted to charge him over $700k for the repair. He passed.


<snip>

--

Bob C.

Reply to Bob-Casanova @ worldnet.att.net
(without the spaces, of course)

"The most exciting phrase to hear in science,
the one that heralds new discoveries, is not
'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'"
- Isaac Asimov

Mark12211 12-04-2004 07:03 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
My gf's brakes did the same thing on her 1999 GC. We happened to read in a
consumer magazine that Midus Muffler pointed out to us, about a kit from the
dealer to fix the problem. My Wrangler was in for another reason and I just
happened to ask, they said it was a major problem on the 1999-2002 Grand
Cherokees, and they didn't do the work to fix them, they suggested going to the
dealer and gave us a copy of the article. We had the dealer put on the kit,
which cost $997 including labor.



Mark12211 12-04-2004 07:03 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
My gf's brakes did the same thing on her 1999 GC. We happened to read in a
consumer magazine that Midus Muffler pointed out to us, about a kit from the
dealer to fix the problem. My Wrangler was in for another reason and I just
happened to ask, they said it was a major problem on the 1999-2002 Grand
Cherokees, and they didn't do the work to fix them, they suggested going to the
dealer and gave us a copy of the article. We had the dealer put on the kit,
which cost $997 including labor.



Mark12211 12-04-2004 07:03 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
My gf's brakes did the same thing on her 1999 GC. We happened to read in a
consumer magazine that Midus Muffler pointed out to us, about a kit from the
dealer to fix the problem. My Wrangler was in for another reason and I just
happened to ask, they said it was a major problem on the 1999-2002 Grand
Cherokees, and they didn't do the work to fix them, they suggested going to the
dealer and gave us a copy of the article. We had the dealer put on the kit,
which cost $997 including labor.



SoK66 12-04-2004 07:31 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041204190346.07938.00001741@mb-m07.aol.com...
> My gf's brakes did the same thing on her 1999 GC. We happened to read in
> a
> consumer magazine that Midus Muffler pointed out to us, about a kit from
> the
> dealer to fix the problem. My Wrangler was in for another reason and I
> just
> happened to ask, they said it was a major problem on the 1999-2002 Grand
> Cherokees, and they didn't do the work to fix them, they suggested going
> to the
> dealer and gave us a copy of the article. We had the dealer put on the
> kit,
> which cost $997 including labor.


Mark, you may want to take the issue to DC Customer Assistance and ask them
to reimburse you. Depends upon how hard you want to fight with them over it,
but they'll likely pop for the parts at least if put up some resistance.

Since my '01 was in warranty the dealer did it FOC, but it appears they're
dodging it if the vehicle is over the 3yrs/36k. Put some pressure on them
reimburse you under Goodwill (After Warranty Adjustment, etc.)



SoK66 12-04-2004 07:31 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041204190346.07938.00001741@mb-m07.aol.com...
> My gf's brakes did the same thing on her 1999 GC. We happened to read in
> a
> consumer magazine that Midus Muffler pointed out to us, about a kit from
> the
> dealer to fix the problem. My Wrangler was in for another reason and I
> just
> happened to ask, they said it was a major problem on the 1999-2002 Grand
> Cherokees, and they didn't do the work to fix them, they suggested going
> to the
> dealer and gave us a copy of the article. We had the dealer put on the
> kit,
> which cost $997 including labor.


Mark, you may want to take the issue to DC Customer Assistance and ask them
to reimburse you. Depends upon how hard you want to fight with them over it,
but they'll likely pop for the parts at least if put up some resistance.

Since my '01 was in warranty the dealer did it FOC, but it appears they're
dodging it if the vehicle is over the 3yrs/36k. Put some pressure on them
reimburse you under Goodwill (After Warranty Adjustment, etc.)



SoK66 12-04-2004 07:31 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"Mark12211" <mark12211@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041204190346.07938.00001741@mb-m07.aol.com...
> My gf's brakes did the same thing on her 1999 GC. We happened to read in
> a
> consumer magazine that Midus Muffler pointed out to us, about a kit from
> the
> dealer to fix the problem. My Wrangler was in for another reason and I
> just
> happened to ask, they said it was a major problem on the 1999-2002 Grand
> Cherokees, and they didn't do the work to fix them, they suggested going
> to the
> dealer and gave us a copy of the article. We had the dealer put on the
> kit,
> which cost $997 including labor.


Mark, you may want to take the issue to DC Customer Assistance and ask them
to reimburse you. Depends upon how hard you want to fight with them over it,
but they'll likely pop for the parts at least if put up some resistance.

Since my '01 was in warranty the dealer did it FOC, but it appears they're
dodging it if the vehicle is over the 3yrs/36k. Put some pressure on them
reimburse you under Goodwill (After Warranty Adjustment, etc.)



Brian Foster 12-07-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it
back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the
car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the entire
issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
rotors/calipers.

So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes. I
hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
first and last Jeep I own.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Mark12211 wrote:
> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> |
> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
> |
> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
> | Here's the details:
> |
> |
> |
> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
> | to you.
> |
> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
> |
> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> | 913-888-7100.
> |
> |
> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> |
> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
> |
> |
> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> |
> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
> | front brakes.
> |
> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> |
> |
> | Check out the entire article here.
> |
> |
> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>
>
> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
> Ohio.
>
>
> --
> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> written by the wisest of mules.
>
> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>
> JEGP
> O|||||||O
> NC, USA
>
> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>




Brian Foster 12-07-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it
back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the
car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the entire
issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
rotors/calipers.

So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes. I
hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
first and last Jeep I own.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Mark12211 wrote:
> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> |
> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
> |
> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
> | Here's the details:
> |
> |
> |
> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
> | to you.
> |
> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
> |
> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> | 913-888-7100.
> |
> |
> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> |
> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
> |
> |
> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> |
> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
> | front brakes.
> |
> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> |
> |
> | Check out the entire article here.
> |
> |
> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>
>
> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
> Ohio.
>
>
> --
> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> written by the wisest of mules.
>
> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>
> JEGP
> O|||||||O
> NC, USA
>
> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>




Brian Foster 12-07-2004 12:39 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it
back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the
car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the entire
issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
rotors/calipers.

So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes. I
hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
first and last Jeep I own.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> Mark12211 wrote:
> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> |
> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
> |
> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
> | Here's the details:
> |
> |
> |
> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
> | to you.
> |
> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
> |
> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> | 913-888-7100.
> |
> |
> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> |
> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
> |
> |
> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> |
> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
> | front brakes.
> |
> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> |
> |
> | Check out the entire article here.
> |
> |
> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>
>
> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
> Ohio.
>
>
> --
> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> written by the wisest of mules.
>
> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>
> JEGP
> O|||||||O
> NC, USA
>
> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>




marko 12-07-2004 03:10 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

Brian Foster wrote:
> My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
> Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it


Squak with new pads (2000 miles, front ones?) would be either wrong pads
(bad quality, surface glassed, do they fit to calipers?) or missing
tension clip/spring. Or severed caliper during job, calipers were
pressing the rotor all the time? Was this your first set of pads, what
did 32K or 36K mile service state for brakes? How worn the pads were?
To what torgue the JB tightened wheel nuts?

The term re-lining escapes me, were the rotors warped, and issue solved
by turning and new pads? In my vehicle the first set of rotors were
warped at 14K miles, second set (TSB ones) are now warped at 39K miles.
I have now Stillen rotors and pads in container coming to Europe.
TSB is
http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb_list.htm#0500302b

Odd if the service at dealer does not recognize any of the front brake
TSBs. This is fourth TSB on the warped rotors. But if the problem is
only squak after brake job, Just Brakes sounds like newer seen brakes...
Espcially odd is they come forward with TSB info after the brake job,
not before the job.

Marko

marko 12-07-2004 03:10 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

Brian Foster wrote:
> My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
> Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it


Squak with new pads (2000 miles, front ones?) would be either wrong pads
(bad quality, surface glassed, do they fit to calipers?) or missing
tension clip/spring. Or severed caliper during job, calipers were
pressing the rotor all the time? Was this your first set of pads, what
did 32K or 36K mile service state for brakes? How worn the pads were?
To what torgue the JB tightened wheel nuts?

The term re-lining escapes me, were the rotors warped, and issue solved
by turning and new pads? In my vehicle the first set of rotors were
warped at 14K miles, second set (TSB ones) are now warped at 39K miles.
I have now Stillen rotors and pads in container coming to Europe.
TSB is
http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb_list.htm#0500302b

Odd if the service at dealer does not recognize any of the front brake
TSBs. This is fourth TSB on the warped rotors. But if the problem is
only squak after brake job, Just Brakes sounds like newer seen brakes...
Espcially odd is they come forward with TSB info after the brake job,
not before the job.

Marko

marko 12-07-2004 03:10 PM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

Brian Foster wrote:
> My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
> Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it


Squak with new pads (2000 miles, front ones?) would be either wrong pads
(bad quality, surface glassed, do they fit to calipers?) or missing
tension clip/spring. Or severed caliper during job, calipers were
pressing the rotor all the time? Was this your first set of pads, what
did 32K or 36K mile service state for brakes? How worn the pads were?
To what torgue the JB tightened wheel nuts?

The term re-lining escapes me, were the rotors warped, and issue solved
by turning and new pads? In my vehicle the first set of rotors were
warped at 14K miles, second set (TSB ones) are now warped at 39K miles.
I have now Stillen rotors and pads in container coming to Europe.
TSB is
http://www.wjjeeps.com/tsb_list.htm#0500302b

Odd if the service at dealer does not recognize any of the front brake
TSBs. This is fourth TSB on the warped rotors. But if the problem is
only squak after brake job, Just Brakes sounds like newer seen brakes...
Espcially odd is they come forward with TSB info after the brake job,
not before the job.

Marko

bllsht 12-08-2004 01:31 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
In message <%Ultd.3109$0b3.501@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Brian Foster" wrote:

>My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
>Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it
>back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
>to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the
>car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the entire
>issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
>cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
>rotors/calipers.


It was a TSB, not a recall, and it didn't address squeaking. It was about
pulsation.

>
>So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes. I
>hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
>first and last Jeep I own.


First they nail you for a reline, then show you a totally unrelated bulletin 2k
miles later when you have the same problem. Instead of stepping up and taking
care of it, they blame Jeep and you buy it. Funny they didn't mention the
bulletin on your first visit when they took your money, eh?

I have a feeling you got what you paid for.


Just Brakes. LOL

>
>
>"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr .com...
>> Mark12211 wrote:
>> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>> |
>> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
>> |
>> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
>> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
>> | Here's the details:
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
>> | to you.
>> |
>> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
>> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
>> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
>> |
>> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>> | 913-888-7100.
>> |
>> |
>> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>> |
>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
>> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
>> |
>> |
>> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
>> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
>> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
>> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>> |
>> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
>> | front brakes.
>> |
>> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>> |
>> |
>> | Check out the entire article here.
>> |
>> |
>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
>> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>>
>>
>> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
>> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
>> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
>> Ohio.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
>> written by the wisest of mules.
>>
>> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>>
>> JEGP
>> O|||||||O
>> NC, USA
>>
>> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>>
>>

>



bllsht 12-08-2004 01:31 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
In message <%Ultd.3109$0b3.501@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Brian Foster" wrote:

>My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
>Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it
>back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
>to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the
>car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the entire
>issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
>cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
>rotors/calipers.


It was a TSB, not a recall, and it didn't address squeaking. It was about
pulsation.

>
>So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes. I
>hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
>first and last Jeep I own.


First they nail you for a reline, then show you a totally unrelated bulletin 2k
miles later when you have the same problem. Instead of stepping up and taking
care of it, they blame Jeep and you buy it. Funny they didn't mention the
bulletin on your first visit when they took your money, eh?

I have a feeling you got what you paid for.


Just Brakes. LOL

>
>
>"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr .com...
>> Mark12211 wrote:
>> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>> |
>> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
>> |
>> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
>> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
>> | Here's the details:
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
>> | to you.
>> |
>> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
>> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
>> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
>> |
>> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>> | 913-888-7100.
>> |
>> |
>> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>> |
>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
>> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
>> |
>> |
>> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
>> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
>> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
>> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>> |
>> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
>> | front brakes.
>> |
>> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>> |
>> |
>> | Check out the entire article here.
>> |
>> |
>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
>> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>>
>>
>> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
>> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
>> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
>> Ohio.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
>> written by the wisest of mules.
>>
>> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>>
>> JEGP
>> O|||||||O
>> NC, USA
>>
>> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>>
>>

>



bllsht 12-08-2004 01:31 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
In message <%Ultd.3109$0b3.501@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Brian Foster" wrote:

>My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to Just
>Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought it
>back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
>to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the
>car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the entire
>issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
>cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
>rotors/calipers.


It was a TSB, not a recall, and it didn't address squeaking. It was about
pulsation.

>
>So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes. I
>hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
>first and last Jeep I own.


First they nail you for a reline, then show you a totally unrelated bulletin 2k
miles later when you have the same problem. Instead of stepping up and taking
care of it, they blame Jeep and you buy it. Funny they didn't mention the
bulletin on your first visit when they took your money, eh?

I have a feeling you got what you paid for.


Just Brakes. LOL

>
>
>"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr .com...
>> Mark12211 wrote:
>> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>> |
>> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
>> |
>> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
>> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
>> | Here's the details:
>> |
>> |
>> |
>> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
>> | to you.
>> |
>> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
>> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
>> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
>> |
>> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>> | 913-888-7100.
>> |
>> |
>> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>> |
>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
>> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
>> |
>> |
>> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
>> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
>> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
>> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>> |
>> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
>> | front brakes.
>> |
>> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>> |
>> |
>> | Check out the entire article here.
>> |
>> |
>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
>> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>>
>>
>> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
>> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
>> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
>> Ohio.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
>> written by the wisest of mules.
>>
>> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>>
>> JEGP
>> O|||||||O
>> NC, USA
>>
>> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>>
>>

>



Joseph P 12-08-2004 07:21 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
Brian Foster wrote:
| My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I
| took to Just Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are
| squeaking again. I brought it back to JB and they show me a Jeep
| Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC to put a kit on that
| includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the car into
| the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
| entire issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing
| bad work/using cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or
| problem with rotors/calipers.
|
| So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where
| this goes. I hate a company that will not stand behind their
| product. Maybe this is the first and last Jeep I own.
|

Jeep stands by their vehicles, I can't help what an independant dealer will
(or will not) do. Of course, that is what you get for going to a place
called "just brakes." Next try, try "Do-it Yourself."





|
| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
|| Mark12211 wrote:
||| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
|||
||| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
||| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
|||
||| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class
||| action suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand
||| Cherokees. Here's the details:
|||
|||
|||
||| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
||| to you.
|||
||| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
||| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about
||| defective front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
|||
||| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
||| 913-888-7100.
|||
|||
||| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
|||
||| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
||| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
|||
|||
||| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
||| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
||| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
||| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
|||
||| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
||| front brakes.
|||
||| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
||| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
|||
|||
||| Check out the entire article here.
|||
|||
||| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action
||| Lawsuit Over Brakes On Jeeps
||
||
|| Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer
|| when my parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the
|| dealer did the job as warranty work, and didn't even charge for
|| labor. Of course, that is in Ohio.
||
||
|| --
|| Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
|| written by the wisest of mules.
||
|| http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
||
|| JEGP
|| O|||||||O
|| NC, USA
||
|| MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



--
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
written by the wisest of mules.

http://www.----inggoogleit.com/

JEGP
O|||||||O
NC, USA

MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



Joseph P 12-08-2004 07:21 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
Brian Foster wrote:
| My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I
| took to Just Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are
| squeaking again. I brought it back to JB and they show me a Jeep
| Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC to put a kit on that
| includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the car into
| the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
| entire issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing
| bad work/using cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or
| problem with rotors/calipers.
|
| So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where
| this goes. I hate a company that will not stand behind their
| product. Maybe this is the first and last Jeep I own.
|

Jeep stands by their vehicles, I can't help what an independant dealer will
(or will not) do. Of course, that is what you get for going to a place
called "just brakes." Next try, try "Do-it Yourself."





|
| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
|| Mark12211 wrote:
||| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
|||
||| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
||| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
|||
||| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class
||| action suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand
||| Cherokees. Here's the details:
|||
|||
|||
||| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
||| to you.
|||
||| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
||| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about
||| defective front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
|||
||| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
||| 913-888-7100.
|||
|||
||| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
|||
||| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
||| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
|||
|||
||| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
||| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
||| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
||| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
|||
||| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
||| front brakes.
|||
||| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
||| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
|||
|||
||| Check out the entire article here.
|||
|||
||| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action
||| Lawsuit Over Brakes On Jeeps
||
||
|| Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer
|| when my parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the
|| dealer did the job as warranty work, and didn't even charge for
|| labor. Of course, that is in Ohio.
||
||
|| --
|| Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
|| written by the wisest of mules.
||
|| http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
||
|| JEGP
|| O|||||||O
|| NC, USA
||
|| MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



--
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
written by the wisest of mules.

http://www.----inggoogleit.com/

JEGP
O|||||||O
NC, USA

MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



Joseph P 12-08-2004 07:21 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
Brian Foster wrote:
| My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I
| took to Just Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are
| squeaking again. I brought it back to JB and they show me a Jeep
| Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC to put a kit on that
| includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the car into
| the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
| entire issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing
| bad work/using cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or
| problem with rotors/calipers.
|
| So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where
| this goes. I hate a company that will not stand behind their
| product. Maybe this is the first and last Jeep I own.
|

Jeep stands by their vehicles, I can't help what an independant dealer will
(or will not) do. Of course, that is what you get for going to a place
called "just brakes." Next try, try "Do-it Yourself."





|
| "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
|| Mark12211 wrote:
||| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
|||
||| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
||| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
|||
||| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class
||| action suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand
||| Cherokees. Here's the details:
|||
|||
|||
||| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
||| to you.
|||
||| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
||| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about
||| defective front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
|||
||| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
||| 913-888-7100.
|||
|||
||| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
|||
||| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
||| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
|||
|||
||| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
||| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
||| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
||| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
|||
||| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
||| front brakes.
|||
||| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
||| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
|||
|||
||| Check out the entire article here.
|||
|||
||| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action
||| Lawsuit Over Brakes On Jeeps
||
||
|| Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer
|| when my parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the
|| dealer did the job as warranty work, and didn't even charge for
|| labor. Of course, that is in Ohio.
||
||
|| --
|| Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
|| written by the wisest of mules.
||
|| http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
||
|| JEGP
|| O|||||||O
|| NC, USA
||
|| MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



--
Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
written by the wisest of mules.

http://www.----inggoogleit.com/

JEGP
O|||||||O
NC, USA

MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP



Brian Foster 12-08-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by independent dealer. Are all
dealers independent or are some owned by the car companies?
If the car companies do not own the dealers then they are very dependant on
the dealer to provide good service or their brand name will not be worth
crap.

I'm glad I didn't try it myself because I would of done it wrong or worse if
there is a problem with the brakes, both the dealer and jeep would of said
tough luck, you screwed em up, now it's your problem. You fix it.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7lCtd.7112$Pw1.1100256@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Brian Foster wrote:
> | My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I
> | took to Just Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are
> | squeaking again. I brought it back to JB and they show me a Jeep
> | Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC to put a kit on that
> | includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the car into
> | the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
> | entire issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing
> | bad work/using cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or
> | problem with rotors/calipers.
> |
> | So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where
> | this goes. I hate a company that will not stand behind their
> | product. Maybe this is the first and last Jeep I own.
> |
>
> Jeep stands by their vehicles, I can't help what an independant dealer
> will
> (or will not) do. Of course, that is what you get for going to a place
> called "just brakes." Next try, try "Do-it Yourself."
>
>
>
>
>
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> || Mark12211 wrote:
> ||| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> |||
> ||| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
> ||| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
> |||
> ||| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class
> ||| action suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand
> ||| Cherokees. Here's the details:
> |||
> |||
> |||
> ||| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
> ||| to you.
> |||
> ||| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
> ||| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about
> ||| defective front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
> |||
> ||| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> ||| 913-888-7100.
> |||
> |||
> ||| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> |||
> ||| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
> ||| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
> |||
> |||
> ||| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
> ||| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
> ||| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
> ||| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> |||
> ||| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
> ||| front brakes.
> |||
> ||| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
> ||| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> |||
> |||
> ||| Check out the entire article here.
> |||
> |||
> ||| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action
> ||| Lawsuit Over Brakes On Jeeps
> ||
> ||
> || Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer
> || when my parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the
> || dealer did the job as warranty work, and didn't even charge for
> || labor. Of course, that is in Ohio.
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> || written by the wisest of mules.
> ||
> || http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
> ||
> || JEGP
> || O|||||||O
> || NC, USA
> ||
> || MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>
>
> --
> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> written by the wisest of mules.
>
> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>
> JEGP
> O|||||||O
> NC, USA
>
> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>




Brian Foster 12-08-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by independent dealer. Are all
dealers independent or are some owned by the car companies?
If the car companies do not own the dealers then they are very dependant on
the dealer to provide good service or their brand name will not be worth
crap.

I'm glad I didn't try it myself because I would of done it wrong or worse if
there is a problem with the brakes, both the dealer and jeep would of said
tough luck, you screwed em up, now it's your problem. You fix it.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7lCtd.7112$Pw1.1100256@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Brian Foster wrote:
> | My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I
> | took to Just Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are
> | squeaking again. I brought it back to JB and they show me a Jeep
> | Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC to put a kit on that
> | includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the car into
> | the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
> | entire issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing
> | bad work/using cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or
> | problem with rotors/calipers.
> |
> | So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where
> | this goes. I hate a company that will not stand behind their
> | product. Maybe this is the first and last Jeep I own.
> |
>
> Jeep stands by their vehicles, I can't help what an independant dealer
> will
> (or will not) do. Of course, that is what you get for going to a place
> called "just brakes." Next try, try "Do-it Yourself."
>
>
>
>
>
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> || Mark12211 wrote:
> ||| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> |||
> ||| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
> ||| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
> |||
> ||| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class
> ||| action suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand
> ||| Cherokees. Here's the details:
> |||
> |||
> |||
> ||| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
> ||| to you.
> |||
> ||| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
> ||| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about
> ||| defective front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
> |||
> ||| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> ||| 913-888-7100.
> |||
> |||
> ||| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> |||
> ||| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
> ||| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
> |||
> |||
> ||| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
> ||| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
> ||| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
> ||| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> |||
> ||| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
> ||| front brakes.
> |||
> ||| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
> ||| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> |||
> |||
> ||| Check out the entire article here.
> |||
> |||
> ||| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action
> ||| Lawsuit Over Brakes On Jeeps
> ||
> ||
> || Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer
> || when my parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the
> || dealer did the job as warranty work, and didn't even charge for
> || labor. Of course, that is in Ohio.
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> || written by the wisest of mules.
> ||
> || http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
> ||
> || JEGP
> || O|||||||O
> || NC, USA
> ||
> || MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>
>
> --
> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> written by the wisest of mules.
>
> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>
> JEGP
> O|||||||O
> NC, USA
>
> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>




Brian Foster 12-08-2004 10:54 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by independent dealer. Are all
dealers independent or are some owned by the car companies?
If the car companies do not own the dealers then they are very dependant on
the dealer to provide good service or their brand name will not be worth
crap.

I'm glad I didn't try it myself because I would of done it wrong or worse if
there is a problem with the brakes, both the dealer and jeep would of said
tough luck, you screwed em up, now it's your problem. You fix it.


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:7lCtd.7112$Pw1.1100256@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Brian Foster wrote:
> | My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I
> | took to Just Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are
> | squeaking again. I brought it back to JB and they show me a Jeep
> | Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC to put a kit on that
> | includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought the car into
> | the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
> | entire issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing
> | bad work/using cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or
> | problem with rotors/calipers.
> |
> | So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where
> | this goes. I hate a company that will not stand behind their
> | product. Maybe this is the first and last Jeep I own.
> |
>
> Jeep stands by their vehicles, I can't help what an independant dealer
> will
> (or will not) do. Of course, that is what you get for going to a place
> called "just brakes." Next try, try "Do-it Yourself."
>
>
>
>
>
> |
> | "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> | news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> || Mark12211 wrote:
> ||| http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
> |||
> ||| Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
> ||| DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
> |||
> ||| KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class
> ||| action suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand
> ||| Cherokees. Here's the details:
> |||
> |||
> |||
> ||| If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
> ||| to you.
> |||
> ||| Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
> ||| counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about
> ||| defective front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
> |||
> ||| For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
> ||| 913-888-7100.
> |||
> |||
> ||| Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
> |||
> ||| TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
> ||| to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
> |||
> |||
> ||| The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
> ||| steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
> ||| encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
> ||| seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
> |||
> ||| DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
> ||| front brakes.
> |||
> ||| The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
> ||| Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
> |||
> |||
> ||| Check out the entire article here.
> |||
> |||
> ||| TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action
> ||| Lawsuit Over Brakes On Jeeps
> ||
> ||
> || Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer
> || when my parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the
> || dealer did the job as warranty work, and didn't even charge for
> || labor. Of course, that is in Ohio.
> ||
> ||
> || --
> || Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> || written by the wisest of mules.
> ||
> || http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
> ||
> || JEGP
> || O|||||||O
> || NC, USA
> ||
> || MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>
>
> --
> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
> written by the wisest of mules.
>
> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>
> JEGP
> O|||||||O
> NC, USA
>
> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>
>




Brian Foster 12-08-2004 11:02 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:4u6dr0ht4jlu5gasn1ddemfh6kiq4s29ng@4ax.com...
> In message <%Ultd.3109$0b3.501@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Brian Foster" wrote:
>
>>My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to
>>Just
>>Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought
>>it
>>back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
>>to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought
>>the
>>car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
>>entire
>>issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
>>cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
>>rotors/calipers.

>
> It was a TSB, not a recall, and it didn't address squeaking. It was about
> pulsation.


I never said it was a recall, (I'm familiar with Jeep & recalls) it was a
service bulliten. The brake company said it should be a recall but that Jeep
is unwilling to spend the money to recall all the cars involved and would
rather pay off the people who complain. Does that sound believable to you?

>
>>
>>So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes.
>>I
>>hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
>>first and last Jeep I own.

>
> First they nail you for a reline, then show you a totally unrelated
> bulletin 2k
> miles later when you have the same problem. Instead of stepping up and
> taking
> care of it, they blame Jeep and you buy it. Funny they didn't mention the
> bulletin on your first visit when they took your money, eh?


Yes they did mention it and told me it was about a $600 job. They said I may
or may not need it.
>
> I have a feeling you got what you paid for.


Maybe that's the case with the vehicle too. Why are you so quick to crap on
JB and so defensive about Jeep? It seems to me like enough jeep vehicles of
this type have had problems with brakes that maybe there is a problem with
them. Also I've had about 4-5 recalls on this vehicle. The latest one was a
gas tank valve. They had to replace the entire tank to take care of it.
>
>
> Just Brakes. LOL
>
>>
>>
>>"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.r r.com...
>>> Mark12211 wrote:
>>> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>>> |
>>> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>>> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
>>> |
>>> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
>>> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
>>> | Here's the details:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
>>> | to you.
>>> |
>>> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
>>> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
>>> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
>>> |
>>> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>>> | 913-888-7100.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>>> |
>>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
>>> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
>>> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
>>> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
>>> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>>> |
>>> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
>>> | front brakes.
>>> |
>>> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>>> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Check out the entire article here.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
>>> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>>>
>>>
>>> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
>>> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
>>> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
>>> Ohio.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
>>> written by the wisest of mules.
>>>
>>> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>>>
>>> JEGP
>>> O|||||||O
>>> NC, USA
>>>
>>> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>>>
>>>

>>

>




Brian Foster 12-08-2004 11:02 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:4u6dr0ht4jlu5gasn1ddemfh6kiq4s29ng@4ax.com...
> In message <%Ultd.3109$0b3.501@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Brian Foster" wrote:
>
>>My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to
>>Just
>>Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought
>>it
>>back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
>>to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought
>>the
>>car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
>>entire
>>issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
>>cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
>>rotors/calipers.

>
> It was a TSB, not a recall, and it didn't address squeaking. It was about
> pulsation.


I never said it was a recall, (I'm familiar with Jeep & recalls) it was a
service bulliten. The brake company said it should be a recall but that Jeep
is unwilling to spend the money to recall all the cars involved and would
rather pay off the people who complain. Does that sound believable to you?

>
>>
>>So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes.
>>I
>>hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
>>first and last Jeep I own.

>
> First they nail you for a reline, then show you a totally unrelated
> bulletin 2k
> miles later when you have the same problem. Instead of stepping up and
> taking
> care of it, they blame Jeep and you buy it. Funny they didn't mention the
> bulletin on your first visit when they took your money, eh?


Yes they did mention it and told me it was about a $600 job. They said I may
or may not need it.
>
> I have a feeling you got what you paid for.


Maybe that's the case with the vehicle too. Why are you so quick to crap on
JB and so defensive about Jeep? It seems to me like enough jeep vehicles of
this type have had problems with brakes that maybe there is a problem with
them. Also I've had about 4-5 recalls on this vehicle. The latest one was a
gas tank valve. They had to replace the entire tank to take care of it.
>
>
> Just Brakes. LOL
>
>>
>>
>>"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.r r.com...
>>> Mark12211 wrote:
>>> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>>> |
>>> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>>> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
>>> |
>>> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
>>> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
>>> | Here's the details:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
>>> | to you.
>>> |
>>> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
>>> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
>>> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
>>> |
>>> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>>> | 913-888-7100.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>>> |
>>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
>>> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
>>> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
>>> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
>>> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>>> |
>>> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
>>> | front brakes.
>>> |
>>> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>>> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Check out the entire article here.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
>>> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>>>
>>>
>>> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
>>> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
>>> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
>>> Ohio.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
>>> written by the wisest of mules.
>>>
>>> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>>>
>>> JEGP
>>> O|||||||O
>>> NC, USA
>>>
>>> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>>>
>>>

>>

>




Brian Foster 12-08-2004 11:02 AM

Re: Class Action Lawsuit against Jeep for 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees
 

"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:4u6dr0ht4jlu5gasn1ddemfh6kiq4s29ng@4ax.com...
> In message <%Ultd.3109$0b3.501@fe2.texas.rr.com>, "Brian Foster" wrote:
>
>>My brakes on my 02 GC were squeaking terribly @ 40,000 miles. I took to
>>Just
>>Brakes and got re-lined. Now @ 42,000 they are squeaking again. I brought
>>it
>>back to JB and they show me a Jeep Service Bulletin for all 99-02 WJ/WG/GC
>>to put a kit on that includes new rotors and calipers ($600). I brought
>>the
>>car into the dealer (for a gas tank recall) and asked them about the
>>entire
>>issue. They said it was crap, blamed just brakes for doing bad work/using
>>cheap pads said they new nothing about a recall or problem with
>>rotors/calipers.

>
> It was a TSB, not a recall, and it didn't address squeaking. It was about
> pulsation.


I never said it was a recall, (I'm familiar with Jeep & recalls) it was a
service bulliten. The brake company said it should be a recall but that Jeep
is unwilling to spend the money to recall all the cars involved and would
rather pay off the people who complain. Does that sound believable to you?

>
>>
>>So I just e-mailed Jeep.com with my complaint. We'll see where this goes.
>>I
>>hate a company that will not stand behind their product. Maybe this is the
>>first and last Jeep I own.

>
> First they nail you for a reline, then show you a totally unrelated
> bulletin 2k
> miles later when you have the same problem. Instead of stepping up and
> taking
> care of it, they blame Jeep and you buy it. Funny they didn't mention the
> bulletin on your first visit when they took your money, eh?


Yes they did mention it and told me it was about a $600 job. They said I may
or may not need it.
>
> I have a feeling you got what you paid for.


Maybe that's the case with the vehicle too. Why are you so quick to crap on
JB and so defensive about Jeep? It seems to me like enough jeep vehicles of
this type have had problems with brakes that maybe there is a problem with
them. Also I've had about 4-5 recalls on this vehicle. The latest one was a
gas tank valve. They had to replace the entire tank to take care of it.
>
>
> Just Brakes. LOL
>
>>
>>
>>"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>>news:0a7sd.26303$Mu3.1633623@twister.southeast.r r.com...
>>> Mark12211 wrote:
>>> | http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/...12/detail.html
>>> |
>>> | Another Grand Cherokee Class Action Suit Forming Against
>>> | DaimlerChrysler - posted 11/24/2004
>>> |
>>> | KCTV5.com out of Kansas City is reporting that a new class action
>>> | suit is being formed for owners of 1999-2004 Grand Cherokees.
>>> | Here's the details:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | If you own a Jeep Grand Cherokee, you may have some money coming
>>> | to you.
>>> |
>>> | Class action lawsuits were filed Monday in Jackson and Johnson
>>> | counties alleging DaimlerChrysler hid information about defective
>>> | front brakes on model years 1999 through 2004.
>>> |
>>> | For more information, contact Lenexa lawyer Michael Hodges at
>>> | 913-888-7100.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Here's the link to the KCTV5.com story.
>>> |
>>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com indicates that the lawsuit it only open
>>> | to residents of Kansas and Missouri only:
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | The lawsuits allege that after as little as 5,000 miles, the
>>> | steering wheel and front wheels "shake" and that drivers
>>> | encounter severe vibrations through the steering wheel, floor,
>>> | seat and pedals when the brakes are applied.
>>> |
>>> | DaimlerChrysler has never issued a recall for a problem with the
>>> | front brakes.
>>> |
>>> | The lawsuits seek to force the carmaker to reimburse Kansas and
>>> | Missouri residents for all costs spent repairing the brakes.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | Check out the entire article here.
>>> |
>>> |
>>> | TheKansasCityChannel.com - News - Firm Files Class-Action Lawsuit
>>> | Over Brakes On Jeeps
>>>
>>>
>>> Hid brake problems....funny, I knew about it, so did the dealer when my
>>> parents took theirs in. It is such a problem, the dealer did the job as
>>> warranty work, and didn't even charge for labor. Of course, that is in
>>> Ohio.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Disclaimer: A large chunk of the preceding was, in its entirety,
>>> written by the wisest of mules.
>>>
>>> http://www.----inggoogleit.com/
>>>
>>> JEGP
>>> O|||||||O
>>> NC, USA
>>>
>>> MSN:JEGP AOL:JEGP
>>>
>>>

>>

>





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