Dave Milne

Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
: When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
:
: Mike
:
: Paul Brogren wrote:
: >
: > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the amount
of
: > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it. My
condo
: > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
: > Thanks Always,
: > Paul
: >
: > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
: > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
: > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both seem
: > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a mosquito
: > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this summer
: > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
: > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired it
: > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a spray
: > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
: > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything on
: > > the end looked like new.
: > >
: > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
: > > wrote:
: > >
: > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF to
: > > > decarbon an engine.
: > > >
: > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like new
with a
: > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
: > > >
: > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the carb
: > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running. Pour
too
: > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
: > > >
: > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so. Start it
: > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
: > > >
: > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
: > > >
: > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have no
: > > > first hand experience on that.
: > > >
: > > > Mike
: > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: > > >
: > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
: > > > >
: > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
: > > > >
: > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they have
very
: > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot of
: > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
: > > > >
: > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it appears
VERY
: > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a deposit.
: > > > >
: > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've put
on
: > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old, never
quite
: > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
: > > > >
: > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm that
: > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
: > > > >
: > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the engine to
get
: > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the gas
that
: > > > > will remove them safely??
: > > > >
: > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry, but
: > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
: > > > >
: > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
: > > > >
: > > > > Thanks.
: > > > >
: > > > > Mike
: > > > > Michael Pomeroy
: > >
: > >
: > > --
: > > Will Honea

Dave Milne

Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
: When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
:
: Mike
:
: Paul Brogren wrote:
: >
: > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the amount
of
: > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it. My
condo
: > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
: > Thanks Always,
: > Paul
: >
: > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
: > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
: > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both seem
: > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a mosquito
: > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this summer
: > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
: > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired it
: > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a spray
: > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
: > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything on
: > > the end looked like new.
: > >
: > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
: > > wrote:
: > >
: > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF to
: > > > decarbon an engine.
: > > >
: > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like new
with a
: > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
: > > >
: > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the carb
: > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running. Pour
too
: > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
: > > >
: > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so. Start it
: > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
: > > >
: > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
: > > >
: > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have no
: > > > first hand experience on that.
: > > >
: > > > Mike
: > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: > > >
: > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
: > > > >
: > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
: > > > >
: > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they have
very
: > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot of
: > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
: > > > >
: > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it appears
VERY
: > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a deposit.
: > > > >
: > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've put
on
: > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old, never
quite
: > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
: > > > >
: > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm that
: > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
: > > > >
: > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the engine to
get
: > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the gas
that
: > > > > will remove them safely??
: > > > >
: > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry, but
: > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
: > > > >
: > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
: > > > >
: > > > > Thanks.
: > > > >
: > > > > Mike
: > > > > Michael Pomeroy
: > >
: > >
: > > --
: > > Will Honea

DougW

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).

Possibly. Water would be a better choice if you have a cat
even if it is the feline variety. :)

DougW

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).

Possibly. Water would be a better choice if you have a cat
even if it is the feline variety. :)

DougW

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:
> Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).

Possibly. Water would be a better choice if you have a cat
even if it is the feline variety. :)

Mike Romain

Not that I have ever seen.

The garages use it as a part of a tune up for 'city' driven vehicles to
stop pinging and I never saw one come back with any troubles.

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
> : When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
> :
> : Mike
> :
> : Paul Brogren wrote:
> : >
> : > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the amount
> of
> : > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it. My
> condo
> : > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
> : > Thanks Always,
> : > Paul
> : >
> : > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> : > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
> : > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both seem
> : > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a mosquito
> : > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this summer
> : > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
> : > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired it
> : > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a spray
> : > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
> : > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything on
> : > > the end looked like new.
> : > >
> : > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> : > > wrote:
> : > >
> : > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF to
> : > > > decarbon an engine.
> : > > >
> : > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like new
> with a
> : > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
> : > > >
> : > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the carb
> : > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running. Pour
> too
> : > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
> : > > >
> : > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so. Start it
> : > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
> : > > >
> : > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
> : > > >
> : > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have no
> : > > > first hand experience on that.
> : > > >
> : > > > Mike
> : > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> : > > >
> : > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they have
> very
> : > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot of
> : > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it appears
> VERY
> : > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a deposit.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've put
> on
> : > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old, never
> quite
> : > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm that
> : > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the engine to
> get
> : > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the gas
> that
> : > > > > will remove them safely??
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry, but
> : > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Thanks.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Mike
> : > > > > Michael Pomeroy
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Will Honea

Mike Romain

Not that I have ever seen.

The garages use it as a part of a tune up for 'city' driven vehicles to
stop pinging and I never saw one come back with any troubles.

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
> : When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
> :
> : Mike
> :
> : Paul Brogren wrote:
> : >
> : > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the amount
> of
> : > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it. My
> condo
> : > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
> : > Thanks Always,
> : > Paul
> : >
> : > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> : > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
> : > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both seem
> : > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a mosquito
> : > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this summer
> : > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
> : > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired it
> : > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a spray
> : > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
> : > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything on
> : > > the end looked like new.
> : > >
> : > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> : > > wrote:
> : > >
> : > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF to
> : > > > decarbon an engine.
> : > > >
> : > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like new
> with a
> : > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
> : > > >
> : > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the carb
> : > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running. Pour
> too
> : > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
> : > > >
> : > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so. Start it
> : > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
> : > > >
> : > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
> : > > >
> : > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have no
> : > > > first hand experience on that.
> : > > >
> : > > > Mike
> : > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> : > > >
> : > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they have
> very
> : > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot of
> : > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it appears
> VERY
> : > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a deposit.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've put
> on
> : > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old, never
> quite
> : > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm that
> : > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the engine to
> get
> : > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the gas
> that
> : > > > > will remove them safely??
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry, but
> : > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Thanks.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Mike
> : > > > > Michael Pomeroy
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Will Honea

Mike Romain

Not that I have ever seen.

The garages use it as a part of a tune up for 'city' driven vehicles to
stop pinging and I never saw one come back with any troubles.

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
> : When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
> :
> : Mike
> :
> : Paul Brogren wrote:
> : >
> : > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the amount
> of
> : > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it. My
> condo
> : > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
> : > Thanks Always,
> : > Paul
> : >
> : > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
> : > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
> : > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both seem
> : > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a mosquito
> : > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this summer
> : > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
> : > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired it
> : > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a spray
> : > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
> : > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything on
> : > > the end looked like new.
> : > >
> : > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> : > > wrote:
> : > >
> : > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF to
> : > > > decarbon an engine.
> : > > >
> : > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like new
> with a
> : > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
> : > > >
> : > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the carb
> : > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running. Pour
> too
> : > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
> : > > >
> : > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so. Start it
> : > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
> : > > >
> : > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
> : > > >
> : > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have no
> : > > > first hand experience on that.
> : > > >
> : > > > Mike
> : > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> : > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> : > > >
> : > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they have
> very
> : > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot of
> : > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it appears
> VERY
> : > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a deposit.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've put
> on
> : > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old, never
> quite
> : > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm that
> : > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the engine to
> get
> : > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the gas
> that
> : > > > > will remove them safely??
> : > > > >
> : > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry, but
> : > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Thanks.
> : > > > >
> : > > > > Mike
> : > > > > Michael Pomeroy
> : > >
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > Will Honea

Dave Milne

good to know, thank you both.

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7EE443.BE4EEEA0@sympatico.ca...
: Not that I have ever seen.
:
: The garages use it as a part of a tune up for 'city' driven vehicles to
: stop pinging and I never saw one come back with any troubles.
:
: Mike
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: >
: > Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
: > : When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
: > :
: > : Mike
: > :
: > : Paul Brogren wrote:
: > : >
: > : > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the
amount
: > of
: > : > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it.
My
: > condo
: > : > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
: > : > Thanks Always,
: > : > Paul
: > : >
: > : > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
: > : > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
: > : > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both
seem
: > : > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a
mosquito
: > : > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this
summer
: > : > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
: > : > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired
it
: > : > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a
spray
: > : > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
: > : > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything
on
: > : > > the end looked like new.
: > : > >
: > : > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
: > : > > wrote:
: > : > >
: > : > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF
to
: > : > > > decarbon an engine.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like
new
: > with a
: > : > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the
carb
: > : > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running.
Pour
: > too
: > : > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so.
Start it
: > : > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have
no
: > : > > > first hand experience on that.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > Mike
: > : > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > : > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: > : > > >
: > : > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they
have
: > very
: > : > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot
of
: > : > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it
appears
: > VERY
: > : > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a
deposit.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've
put
: > on
: > : > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old,
never
: > quite
: > : > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm
that
: > : > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the
engine to
: > get
: > : > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the
gas
: > that
: > : > > > > will remove them safely??
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry,
but
: > : > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Thanks.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Mike
: > : > > > > Michael Pomeroy
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > --
: > : > > Will Honea

Dave Milne

good to know, thank you both.

--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F7EE443.BE4EEEA0@sympatico.ca...
: Not that I have ever seen.
:
: The garages use it as a part of a tune up for 'city' driven vehicles to
: stop pinging and I never saw one come back with any troubles.
:
: Mike
:
: Dave Milne wrote:
: >
: > Any cat implications with ATF ? (other than the choking feline variety).
: >
: > Dave Milne, Scotland
: > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
: >
: > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:3F7C4A55.54B45C4D@sympatico.ca...
: > : When I say 'one massive' cloud of smoke, I am not exaggerating. LOL!
: > :
: > : Mike
: > :
: > : Paul Brogren wrote:
: > : >
: > : > I'm gonna try the water spray tonight. I didn't realize that the
amount
: > of
: > : > ATF smoke could be as bad as you say. Good thing I didn't try it.
My
: > condo
: > : > neighbors would be quite upset for sure.
: > : > Thanks Always,
: > : > Paul
: > : >
: > : > "Will Honea" <will@codenet.net> wrote in message
: > : > news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-qq2jcfoBT950@anon.none.net...
: > : > > I use water myself, but I tried ATF once here while back. Both
seem
: > : > > to work but the smoke cloud put out by the ATF would make a
mosquito
: > : > > fogger proud! Best evidence I've got of it working was this
summer
: > : > > when I changed the plugs - pulled a couple and they had a bit of
: > : > > carbon on the body close to the threads. Put them back in, fired
it
: > : > > up and ran about a quart of water thru it - I cheat and use a
spray
: > : > > bottle to squirt it in so that I get a steady stream of droplets
: > : > > instead of a big splash - and when I pulled the plugs everything
on
: > : > > the end looked like new.
: > : > >
: > : > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2003 01:26:05 UTC Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
: > : > > wrote:
: > : > >
: > : > > > I worked in garages for years and they always used a pint of ATF
to
: > : > > > decarbon an engine.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > I did it to my CJ before a head gasket job and it looked like
new
: > with a
: > : > > > couple big loose chunks of carbon still in a couple cylinders.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > You heat up the engine and slowly pour the pint of ATF down the
carb
: > : > > > while keeping your hand on the throttle to keep it running.
Pour
: > too
: > : > > > fast and it will stall out, you don't want that.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > Then when it's finished shut it down for 10 minutes or so.
Start it
: > : > > > back up and rev it good and you are good to go.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > It makes one massive cloud of smoke, but does a sweet job.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > I have been told that a pint of water will do the same, but have
no
: > : > > > first hand experience on that.
: > : > > >
: > : > > > Mike
: > : > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
: > : > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
: > : > > >
: > : > > > pomerom@yahoo.com wrote:
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I'm getting my CJ8 six cylinder in shape.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I recently replaced the spark plugs. Though old in age they
have
: > very
: > : > > > > few miles on them; they looked very good -- except for a lot
of
: > : > > > > carbon-looking darkness away from the gap.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I also shined a bright light into the cylinders where it
appears
: > VERY
: > : > > > > dark and carbon-like on the top of the pistons; like a
deposit.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > This is probably due to the couple of hundred miles/year I've
put
: > on
: > : > > > > the Scrambler for the past few years; along with the old,
never
: > quite
: > : > > > > right stock carburator (now replaced with a Weber).
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Engine seems in great shape and repeated oil analysis confirm
that
: > : > > > > there is very little wear over the 51,000 miles.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Question is -- is there some way without dismantling the
engine to
: > get
: > : > > > > rid of these deposits? Is there something I can put in the
gas
: > that
: > : > > > > will remove them safely??
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > I've been told this is a common issue in the marine industry,
but
: > : > > > > don't know what to use. If there is anything that will work??
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Any suggestions, please .....
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Thanks.
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Mike
: > : > > > > Michael Pomeroy
: > : > >
: > : > >
: > : > > --
: > : > > Will Honea