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Jay Stuler 02-26-2005 09:42 PM

CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Hi,

76 CJ7
The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
there.
Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
without serious difficulty.
Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
How do I get this wiper back where it should be?

Thanks



Mike Romain 02-26-2005 10:18 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
There is a spring clip under the arm you push with a small screwdriver
or pliers and use a flat screw driver to lever the arm off it's spline.
A spray of penetrating oil is a good idea.

It then just slips back on in the right place.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 76 CJ7
> The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
> In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
> I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
> there.
> Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
> It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
> There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
> I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
> Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
> without serious difficulty.
> Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
> How do I get this wiper back where it should be?
>
> Thanks


Mike Romain 02-26-2005 10:18 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
There is a spring clip under the arm you push with a small screwdriver
or pliers and use a flat screw driver to lever the arm off it's spline.
A spray of penetrating oil is a good idea.

It then just slips back on in the right place.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 76 CJ7
> The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
> In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
> I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
> there.
> Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
> It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
> There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
> I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
> Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
> without serious difficulty.
> Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
> How do I get this wiper back where it should be?
>
> Thanks


Mike Romain 02-26-2005 10:18 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
There is a spring clip under the arm you push with a small screwdriver
or pliers and use a flat screw driver to lever the arm off it's spline.
A spray of penetrating oil is a good idea.

It then just slips back on in the right place.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 76 CJ7
> The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
> In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
> I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
> there.
> Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
> It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
> There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
> I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
> Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
> without serious difficulty.
> Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
> How do I get this wiper back where it should be?
>
> Thanks


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 12:19 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 76 CJ7
> The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
> In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
> I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
> there.
> Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
> It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
> There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
> I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
> Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
> without serious difficulty.
> Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
> How do I get this wiper back where it should be?
>
> Thanks


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 12:19 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 76 CJ7
> The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
> In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
> I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
> there.
> Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
> It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
> There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
> I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
> Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
> without serious difficulty.
> Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
> How do I get this wiper back where it should be?
>
> Thanks


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 12:19 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jay Stuler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> 76 CJ7
> The people who installed my windshield put on one of my windshield wipers pointing the wrong direction.
> In other words, the passenger side was pointing left (facing the vehicle) and the driver's side one was pointing right.
> I didn't think too much about it because they seemed to work and it was in the middle of a blizzard and I was anxious to get out of
> there.
> Well before long, the driver's side one (the one that is on the wrong way) flopped below the windshield.
> It appears that it is actually 90 degrees off of where it should be.
> There is a nut on the front of the wiper (between the blade and the windshield).
> I thought that loosening this would let me take the wiper off or something - but it doesn't seem to do any good.
> Folding down the windshield, and looking at the linkage inside, there appears to be no way to change the position of the wiper
> without serious difficulty.
> Unfortunately I can't take the Jeep back to the people who did it because they are too far away.
> How do I get this wiper back where it should be?
>
> Thanks


Jay Stuler 02-27-2005 12:53 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:42215860.293A647A@cox.net...
> The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
> guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
> and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
> and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------


Thanks guys.
Why aren't you ever in the garage when I'm trying to figure this stuff out.



Jay Stuler 02-27-2005 12:53 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:42215860.293A647A@cox.net...
> The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
> guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
> and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
> and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------


Thanks guys.
Why aren't you ever in the garage when I'm trying to figure this stuff out.



Jay Stuler 02-27-2005 12:53 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:42215860.293A647A@cox.net...
> The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
> guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
> and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
> and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------


Thanks guys.
Why aren't you ever in the garage when I'm trying to figure this stuff out.



Lon 02-27-2005 01:50 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Jay Stuler proclaimed:
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:42215860.293A647A@cox.net...
>
>> The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
>>guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
>>and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
>>and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------

>
>
> Thanks guys.
> Why aren't you ever in the garage when I'm trying to figure this stuff out.


You'll need to lure them in with a beer whose scent carries further.

Lon 02-27-2005 01:50 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Jay Stuler proclaimed:
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:42215860.293A647A@cox.net...
>
>> The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
>>guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
>>and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
>>and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------

>
>
> Thanks guys.
> Why aren't you ever in the garage when I'm trying to figure this stuff out.


You'll need to lure them in with a beer whose scent carries further.

Lon 02-27-2005 01:50 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Jay Stuler proclaimed:
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:42215860.293A647A@cox.net...
>
>> The wipers have to be parallel to each other to work as you have
>>guessed: http://www.----------.com/cjWipers.jpg Pry the spring clip back
>>and the blade arm will slide off the spline as Mike has already said,
>>and is pictured at: http://www.----------.com/tBirdWiperArm.jpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------

>
>
> Thanks guys.
> Why aren't you ever in the garage when I'm trying to figure this stuff out.


You'll need to lure them in with a beer whose scent carries further.

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 03:32 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Beer? http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Lon wrote:
>
> You'll need to lure them in with a beer whose scent carries further.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 03:32 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Beer? http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Lon wrote:
>
> You'll need to lure them in with a beer whose scent carries further.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 03:32 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Beer? http://www.----------.com/olympia.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Lon wrote:
>
> You'll need to lure them in with a beer whose scent carries further.


Clap Trap 02-27-2005 06:46 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

Clap Trap 02-27-2005 06:46 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

Clap Trap 02-27-2005 06:46 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 07:05 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Like a Real Jeep? http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 07:05 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Like a Real Jeep? http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-27-2005 07:05 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Like a Real Jeep? http://www.----------.com/jeep68sand.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?


Lee Ayrton 02-28-2005 02:07 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

Do you mean to make them do this?

( / \ )
( | | )
( \ / )
( | | )
( / \ )

You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.

Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
connecting rod.

FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.

Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...




On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:

> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?



--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 02-28-2005 02:07 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

Do you mean to make them do this?

( / \ )
( | | )
( \ / )
( | | )
( / \ )

You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.

Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
connecting rod.

FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.

Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...




On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:

> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?



--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 02-28-2005 02:07 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

Do you mean to make them do this?

( / \ )
( | | )
( \ / )
( | | )
( / \ )

You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.

Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
connecting rod.

FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.

Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...




On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:

> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?



--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 02-28-2005 02:36 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
be needed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Do you mean to make them do this?
>
> ( / \ )
> ( | | )
> ( \ / )
> ( | | )
> ( / \ )
>
> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>
> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> connecting rod.
>
> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>
> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>
> > I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> > along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> > purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> > wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> > to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> > have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> > be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> > simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

>
> --
> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> whips....r"
> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 02-28-2005 02:36 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
be needed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Do you mean to make them do this?
>
> ( / \ )
> ( | | )
> ( \ / )
> ( | | )
> ( / \ )
>
> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>
> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> connecting rod.
>
> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>
> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>
> > I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> > along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> > purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> > wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> > to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> > have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> > be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> > simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

>
> --
> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> whips....r"
> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 02-28-2005 02:36 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
be needed.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Do you mean to make them do this?
>
> ( / \ )
> ( | | )
> ( \ / )
> ( | | )
> ( / \ )
>
> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>
> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> connecting rod.
>
> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>
> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>
> > I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> > along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> > purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> > wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> > to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> > have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> > be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> > simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

>
> --
> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> whips....r"
> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Clap Trap 02-28-2005 08:02 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Yes Lee, that's what I want.

Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are
MUCH better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly
stiffer than the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it
is a 3 wire and the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as
critical. I just wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm
might do it. When I get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give
it a shot. If I do and it works, I'll pass it along.

Mike Romain wrote:
> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> be needed.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>>Do you mean to make them do this?
>>
>> ( / \ )
>> ( | | )
>> ( \ / )
>> ( | | )
>> ( / \ )
>>
>>You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
>>came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
>>connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
>>is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>>
>>Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
>>inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
>>with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
>>connecting rod.
>>
>>FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
>>the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>>
>>Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>>
>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
>>>along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
>>>purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
>>>wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
>>>to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
>>>have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
>>>be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
>>>simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

>>
>>--
>>"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
>>whips....r"
>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Clap Trap 02-28-2005 08:02 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Yes Lee, that's what I want.

Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are
MUCH better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly
stiffer than the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it
is a 3 wire and the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as
critical. I just wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm
might do it. When I get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give
it a shot. If I do and it works, I'll pass it along.

Mike Romain wrote:
> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> be needed.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>>Do you mean to make them do this?
>>
>> ( / \ )
>> ( | | )
>> ( \ / )
>> ( | | )
>> ( / \ )
>>
>>You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
>>came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
>>connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
>>is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>>
>>Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
>>inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
>>with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
>>connecting rod.
>>
>>FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
>>the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>>
>>Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>>
>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
>>>along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
>>>purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
>>>wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
>>>to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
>>>have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
>>>be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
>>>simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

>>
>>--
>>"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
>>whips....r"
>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Clap Trap 02-28-2005 08:02 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
Yes Lee, that's what I want.

Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are
MUCH better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly
stiffer than the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it
is a 3 wire and the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as
critical. I just wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm
might do it. When I get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give
it a shot. If I do and it works, I'll pass it along.

Mike Romain wrote:
> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> be needed.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>>Do you mean to make them do this?
>>
>> ( / \ )
>> ( | | )
>> ( \ / )
>> ( | | )
>> ( / \ )
>>
>>You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
>>came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
>>connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
>>is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>>
>>Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
>>inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
>>with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
>>connecting rod.
>>
>>FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
>>the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>>
>>Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>>
>>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
>>>along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
>>>purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
>>>wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
>>>to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
>>>have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
>>>be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
>>>simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?

>>
>>--
>>"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
>>whips....r"
>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 03-01-2005 09:03 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The extra wire on the YJ motor is likely the ground. The CJ motor
grounds through the hinges which can get iffy. Here is a trick, try
adding a ground wire direct to the CJ wiper motor. Mine doubled in
speed when I did this.

And yes, you would have to change the pivot hole's place to use the
stock linkage upside down. Good luck....

Mike

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Yes Lee, that's what I want.
>
> Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are
> MUCH better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly
> stiffer than the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it
> is a 3 wire and the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as
> critical. I just wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm
> might do it. When I get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give
> it a shot. If I do and it works, I'll pass it along.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> > will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> > almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> > be needed.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >>Do you mean to make them do this?
> >>
> >> ( / \ )
> >> ( | | )
> >> ( \ / )
> >> ( | | )
> >> ( / \ )
> >>
> >>You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> >>came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> >>connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
> >>is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
> >>
> >>Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> >>inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
> >>with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> >>connecting rod.
> >>
> >>FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> >>the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
> >>
> >>Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
> >>
> >>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> >>>along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> >>>purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> >>>wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> >>>to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> >>>have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> >>>be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> >>>simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
> >>
> >>--
> >>"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> >>whips....r"
> >> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 03-01-2005 09:03 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The extra wire on the YJ motor is likely the ground. The CJ motor
grounds through the hinges which can get iffy. Here is a trick, try
adding a ground wire direct to the CJ wiper motor. Mine doubled in
speed when I did this.

And yes, you would have to change the pivot hole's place to use the
stock linkage upside down. Good luck....

Mike

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Yes Lee, that's what I want.
>
> Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are
> MUCH better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly
> stiffer than the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it
> is a 3 wire and the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as
> critical. I just wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm
> might do it. When I get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give
> it a shot. If I do and it works, I'll pass it along.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> > will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> > almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> > be needed.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >>Do you mean to make them do this?
> >>
> >> ( / \ )
> >> ( | | )
> >> ( \ / )
> >> ( | | )
> >> ( / \ )
> >>
> >>You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> >>came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> >>connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
> >>is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
> >>
> >>Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> >>inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
> >>with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> >>connecting rod.
> >>
> >>FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> >>the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
> >>
> >>Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
> >>
> >>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> >>>along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> >>>purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> >>>wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> >>>to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> >>>have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> >>>be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> >>>simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
> >>
> >>--
> >>"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> >>whips....r"
> >> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 03-01-2005 09:03 AM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The extra wire on the YJ motor is likely the ground. The CJ motor
grounds through the hinges which can get iffy. Here is a trick, try
adding a ground wire direct to the CJ wiper motor. Mine doubled in
speed when I did this.

And yes, you would have to change the pivot hole's place to use the
stock linkage upside down. Good luck....

Mike

Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Yes Lee, that's what I want.
>
> Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are
> MUCH better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly
> stiffer than the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it
> is a 3 wire and the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as
> critical. I just wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm
> might do it. When I get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give
> it a shot. If I do and it works, I'll pass it along.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> > will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> > almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> > be needed.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >
> >>Do you mean to make them do this?
> >>
> >> ( / \ )
> >> ( | | )
> >> ( \ / )
> >> ( | | )
> >> ( / \ )
> >>
> >>You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> >>came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> >>connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right wiper
> >>is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
> >>
> >>Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> >>inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably interfere
> >>with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> >>connecting rod.
> >>
> >>FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> >>the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
> >>
> >>Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
> >>
> >>On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> >>>along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> >>>purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> >>>wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> >>>to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> >>>have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> >>>be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> >>>simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
> >>
> >>--
> >>"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> >>whips....r"
> >> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 03-01-2005 01:02 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

Thinking about it more, you might not have to reposition the wiper mount,
if you can get the blades to interleave when they come to the center. You
know, left before right.


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:

> Yes Lee, that's what I want.
>
> Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are MUCH
> better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly stiffer than
> the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it is a 3 wire and
> the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as critical. I just
> wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm might do it. When I
> get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give it a shot. If I do and it
> works, I'll pass it along.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
>> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
>> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
>> be needed.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean to make them do this?
>>>
>>> ( / \ )
>>> ( | | )
>>> ( \ / )
>>> ( | | )
>>> ( / \ )
>>>
>>> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
>>> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
>>> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right
>>> wiper
>>> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>>>
>>> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
>>> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably
>>> interfere
>>> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
>>> connecting rod.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
>>> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>>>
>>> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
>>>> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
>>>> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
>>>> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
>>>> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
>>>> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
>>>> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
>>>> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
>>> whips....r"
>>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 03-01-2005 01:02 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

Thinking about it more, you might not have to reposition the wiper mount,
if you can get the blades to interleave when they come to the center. You
know, left before right.


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:

> Yes Lee, that's what I want.
>
> Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are MUCH
> better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly stiffer than
> the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it is a 3 wire and
> the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as critical. I just
> wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm might do it. When I
> get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give it a shot. If I do and it
> works, I'll pass it along.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
>> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
>> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
>> be needed.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean to make them do this?
>>>
>>> ( / \ )
>>> ( | | )
>>> ( \ / )
>>> ( | | )
>>> ( / \ )
>>>
>>> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
>>> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
>>> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right
>>> wiper
>>> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>>>
>>> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
>>> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably
>>> interfere
>>> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
>>> connecting rod.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
>>> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>>>
>>> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
>>>> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
>>>> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
>>>> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
>>>> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
>>>> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
>>>> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
>>>> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
>>> whips....r"
>>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 03-01-2005 01:02 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 

Thinking about it more, you might not have to reposition the wiper mount,
if you can get the blades to interleave when they come to the center. You
know, left before right.


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:

> Yes Lee, that's what I want.
>
> Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are MUCH
> better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly stiffer than
> the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it is a 3 wire and
> the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as critical. I just
> wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm might do it. When I
> get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give it a shot. If I do and it
> works, I'll pass it along.
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
>> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
>> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
>> be needed.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>>
>>> Do you mean to make them do this?
>>>
>>> ( / \ )
>>> ( | | )
>>> ( \ / )
>>> ( | | )
>>> ( / \ )
>>>
>>> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
>>> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
>>> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right
>>> wiper
>>> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
>>>
>>> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
>>> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably
>>> interfere
>>> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
>>> connecting rod.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
>>> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
>>>
>>> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
>>>
>>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
>>>> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
>>>> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
>>>> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
>>>> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
>>>> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
>>>> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
>>>> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
>>> whips....r"
>>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 03-01-2005 01:16 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The linkages are across the bottom so to move the long one to the top
would mean a longer arm or a closer hole.

The only way I know to successfully move the hole is to cut out the
whole piece about 2" high by 4" long with the hole in the middle and
move the whole works. The holes are up on dimples and the linkage
'will' jam up if they aren't perfectly square on that dimple.

I had to move the hole on my aftermarket frame, they put the dimple just
slightly in the wrong place so the linkage jams up. Thankfully I had a
spare hole from my old frame that I hadn't tossed out.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Thinking about it more, you might not have to reposition the wiper mount,
> if you can get the blades to interleave when they come to the center. You
> know, left before right.
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>
> > Yes Lee, that's what I want.
> >
> > Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are MUCH
> > better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly stiffer than
> > the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it is a 3 wire and
> > the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as critical. I just
> > wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm might do it. When I
> > get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give it a shot. If I do and it
> > works, I'll pass it along.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> >> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> >> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> >> be needed.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do you mean to make them do this?
> >>>
> >>> ( / \ )
> >>> ( | | )
> >>> ( \ / )
> >>> ( | | )
> >>> ( / \ )
> >>>
> >>> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> >>> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> >>> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right
> >>> wiper
> >>> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
> >>>
> >>> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> >>> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably
> >>> interfere
> >>> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> >>> connecting rod.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> >>> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
> >>>
> >>> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> >>>> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> >>>> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> >>>> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> >>>> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> >>>> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> >>>> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> >>>> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> >>> whips....r"
> >>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

> >

>
> --
> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> whips....r"
> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 03-01-2005 01:16 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The linkages are across the bottom so to move the long one to the top
would mean a longer arm or a closer hole.

The only way I know to successfully move the hole is to cut out the
whole piece about 2" high by 4" long with the hole in the middle and
move the whole works. The holes are up on dimples and the linkage
'will' jam up if they aren't perfectly square on that dimple.

I had to move the hole on my aftermarket frame, they put the dimple just
slightly in the wrong place so the linkage jams up. Thankfully I had a
spare hole from my old frame that I hadn't tossed out.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Thinking about it more, you might not have to reposition the wiper mount,
> if you can get the blades to interleave when they come to the center. You
> know, left before right.
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>
> > Yes Lee, that's what I want.
> >
> > Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are MUCH
> > better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly stiffer than
> > the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it is a 3 wire and
> > the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as critical. I just
> > wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm might do it. When I
> > get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give it a shot. If I do and it
> > works, I'll pass it along.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> >> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> >> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> >> be needed.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do you mean to make them do this?
> >>>
> >>> ( / \ )
> >>> ( | | )
> >>> ( \ / )
> >>> ( | | )
> >>> ( / \ )
> >>>
> >>> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> >>> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> >>> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right
> >>> wiper
> >>> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
> >>>
> >>> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> >>> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably
> >>> interfere
> >>> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> >>> connecting rod.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> >>> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
> >>>
> >>> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> >>>> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> >>>> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> >>>> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> >>>> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> >>>> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> >>>> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> >>>> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> >>> whips....r"
> >>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

> >

>
> --
> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> whips....r"
> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Mike Romain 03-01-2005 01:16 PM

Re: CJ7 Windshield Wiper Problem
 
The linkages are across the bottom so to move the long one to the top
would mean a longer arm or a closer hole.

The only way I know to successfully move the hole is to cut out the
whole piece about 2" high by 4" long with the hole in the middle and
move the whole works. The holes are up on dimples and the linkage
'will' jam up if they aren't perfectly square on that dimple.

I had to move the hole on my aftermarket frame, they put the dimple just
slightly in the wrong place so the linkage jams up. Thankfully I had a
spare hole from my old frame that I hadn't tossed out.

Mike

Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
> Thinking about it more, you might not have to reposition the wiper mount,
> if you can get the blades to interleave when they come to the center. You
> know, left before right.
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
>
> > Yes Lee, that's what I want.
> >
> > Actually Mike, I have a YJ windshield on my CJ. The YJ linkages are MUCH
> > better, they have good ball joints in them and are significantly stiffer than
> > the CJ style. I had to retain the CJ motor though since it is a 3 wire and
> > the YJ has 4. Anyway, I don't think alignment is as critical. I just
> > wondered if repositioning the passenger side pivot arm might do it. When I
> > get around to replacing the motor, maybe I'll give it a shot. If I do and it
> > works, I'll pass it along.
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> The linkages are extremely touchy about the angles inside too. They
> >> will jam really easy if the alignment isn't perfect. The movement is
> >> almost over center on each side as it is so some major parts work would
> >> be needed.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do you mean to make them do this?
> >>>
> >>> ( / \ )
> >>> ( | | )
> >>> ( \ / )
> >>> ( | | )
> >>> ( / \ )
> >>>
> >>> You'd have to redesign the linkage and reposition the wiper mounts. As it
> >>> came from the factory, the motor drives a gear box that drives a
> >>> connecting rod attached to a bell crank on the left wiper. The right
> >>> wiper
> >>> is driven by a bell crank and connecting rod from the left wiper.
> >>>
> >>> Getting the wipers to move in opposite directions might be as easy as
> >>> inverting the right hand bell crank, but the wipers will probably
> >>> interfere
> >>> with each other unless you move one of them, and that means making a new
> >>> connecting rod.
> >>>
> >>> FWIW, I repositioned the "Park" switch on my motor to make them park to
> >>> the other side. I like the way they wipe better that way.
> >>>
> >>> Or, you could install single-arm vacuum-operated wiper motors...
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, Clap Trap wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I assume from his last response, your suggestion fixed him up. But,
> >>>> along the same lines, do you know of any way to make them that way on
> >>>> purpose and properly? I don't mean just putting the wipers on the stems
> >>>> wrong, I mean instead of my wipers being like normal ( // ) I want them
> >>>> to be together at the middle ( /\ ) so that both driver and passenger
> >>>> have an unobstructed view. I'm about to replace the wiper motor so I'll
> >>>> be in there with the guts anyway. It seems like I should be able to
> >>>> simply move the linkage. Anybody done this?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> >>> whips....r"
> >>> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.

> >

>
> --
> "I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
> whips....r"
> R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.



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