c

Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
(Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.

This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.

Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
thing up obviously.

Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
not be able to get a frame for it.

Any ideas or comments?

Chris

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

http://www.trailquest.com/body-parts/frames/index.shtml
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
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> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris



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http://www.trailquest.com/body-parts/frames/index.shtml
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e9d9da$0$6493$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

http://www.trailquest.com/body-parts/frames/index.shtml
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e9d9da$0$6493$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

http://www.trailquest.com/body-parts/frames/index.shtml
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e9d9da$0$6493$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris



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Mike Romain

c wrote:
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris

You can still buy CJ frames.

Here is one place that sells them:
http://www.rigidsteel.com/y226pC3tIGk0.html

You are right about being leery of a rotted one. When the tails are
gone, the rest has crystallized and will start cracking every time you
go off road. My local shop laughs about me needing a welding truck
following me.... I only cracked it (the frame) in 3 places this time
when camping for 10 days last week way back in the Canadian Bush.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

c wrote:
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris

You can still buy CJ frames.

Here is one place that sells them:
http://www.rigidsteel.com/y226pC3tIGk0.html

You are right about being leery of a rotted one. When the tails are
gone, the rest has crystallized and will start cracking every time you
go off road. My local shop laughs about me needing a welding truck
following me.... I only cracked it (the frame) in 3 places this time
when camping for 10 days last week way back in the Canadian Bush.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

c wrote:
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris

You can still buy CJ frames.

Here is one place that sells them:
http://www.rigidsteel.com/y226pC3tIGk0.html

You are right about being leery of a rotted one. When the tails are
gone, the rest has crystallized and will start cracking every time you
go off road. My local shop laughs about me needing a welding truck
following me.... I only cracked it (the frame) in 3 places this time
when camping for 10 days last week way back in the Canadian Bush.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain

c wrote:
> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately the
> frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is pretty
> decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around here
> (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>
> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies it.
>
> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better days,
> and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would rather stick
> a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than to patch the
> thing up obviously.
>
> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the frame,
> but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project. I have
> the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it and then
> not be able to get a frame for it.
>
> Any ideas or comments?
>
> Chris

You can still buy CJ frames.

Here is one place that sells them:
http://www.rigidsteel.com/y226pC3tIGk0.html

You are right about being leery of a rotted one. When the tails are
gone, the rest has crystallized and will start cracking every time you
go off road. My local shop laughs about me needing a welding truck
following me.... I only cracked it (the frame) in 3 places this time
when camping for 10 days last week way back in the Canadian Bush.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

c

Mike Romain wrote:
> c wrote:
>> Well, I went and looked at a 78 CJ7 for sale today and unfortunately
>> the frame isn't so good in the back end. The rest of the Jeep is
>> pretty decent, but I have a feeling that finding a good frame around
>> here (Norther WI or Upper MI) is going to be tough.
>>
>> This Jeep has a fiberglass tub, the engine is a 304 rebuilt with 25k
>> miles on it, paint is ugly, it has a hardtop that looks to be in OK
>> shape, brakes need to be done, interior is average for a 78. The owner
>> says the 93k miles on it are the original miles and the title verifies
>> it.
>>
>> Anyway, how hard is it to find a decent frame for these things? The
>> frame isn't totally gone or full of holes, but it has seen better
>> days, and I don't know if repairing it is the way to go. I would
>> rather stick a nice solid frame underneath his thing if I buy it, than
>> to patch the thing up obviously.
>>
>> Honestly, I am kind of shying away from this thing because of the
>> frame, but other than that it seems that it wouldn't be a bad project.
>> I have the capability to do the frame swap, but I don't want to buy it
>> and then not be able to get a frame for it.
>>
>> Any ideas or comments?
>>
>> Chris
>
> You can still buy CJ frames.
>
> Here is one place that sells them:
> http://www.rigidsteel.com/y226pC3tIGk0.html
>
> You are right about being leery of a rotted one. When the tails are
> gone, the rest has crystallized and will start cracking every time you
> go off road. My local shop laughs about me needing a welding truck
> following me.... I only cracked it (the frame) in 3 places this time
> when camping for 10 days last week way back in the Canadian Bush.
>
> Mike


Thanks Mike. I did find a few companies that make aftermarket frames
like that. Some are mandrel bent rectangular, and some are fabricated
like the ones on the site you gave me.

I'm still contemplating this. I really probably shouldn't buy a Jeep
right now since I am planning on moving overseas soon, but those plans
aren't set in stone yet as far as a timeline. My common sense self says
to wait until I move unless I find something that doesn't need a lot of
work and is a good deal price wise.

If I decide against buying this Jeep, and anyone is interested, I will
shoot some pics and get the phone number for you. It is located in
northern WI about an hour north of Green Bay.

Chris