CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
10-08-2006, 11:15 PM
#11
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Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
..11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
Chris
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
> yours falls in that category as well.
>
> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>
> Chris
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>
>>
>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it. We
>>> did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close enough
>>> until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>
>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to do
>>> this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something solid,
>>> such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is all the
>>> way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>
>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do the
>>> toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and bring
>>> the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the spindle
>>> and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do this on the
>>> front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and you have
>>> your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the tires are
>>> toed out.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>> 20-20).
>>>>
>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>
>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
..11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
Chris
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
> yours falls in that category as well.
>
> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>
> Chris
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>
>>
>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it. We
>>> did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close enough
>>> until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>
>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to do
>>> this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something solid,
>>> such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is all the
>>> way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>
>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do the
>>> toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and bring
>>> the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the spindle
>>> and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do this on the
>>> front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and you have
>>> your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the tires are
>>> toed out.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>> 20-20).
>>>>
>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>
>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-08-2006, 11:15 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
..11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
Chris
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
> yours falls in that category as well.
>
> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>
> Chris
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>
>>
>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it. We
>>> did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close enough
>>> until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>
>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to do
>>> this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something solid,
>>> such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is all the
>>> way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>
>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do the
>>> toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and bring
>>> the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the spindle
>>> and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do this on the
>>> front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and you have
>>> your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the tires are
>>> toed out.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>> 20-20).
>>>>
>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>
>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
..11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
Chris
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
> yours falls in that category as well.
>
> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>
> Chris
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>
>>
>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it. We
>>> did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close enough
>>> until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>
>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to do
>>> this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something solid,
>>> such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is all the
>>> way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>
>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do the
>>> toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and bring
>>> the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the spindle
>>> and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do this on the
>>> front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and you have
>>> your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the tires are
>>> toed out.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>> 20-20).
>>>>
>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>
>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-08-2006, 11:15 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
..11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
Chris
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
> yours falls in that category as well.
>
> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>
> Chris
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>
>>
>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it. We
>>> did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close enough
>>> until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>
>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to do
>>> this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something solid,
>>> such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is all the
>>> way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>
>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do the
>>> toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and bring
>>> the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the spindle
>>> and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do this on the
>>> front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and you have
>>> your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the tires are
>>> toed out.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>> 20-20).
>>>>
>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>
>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
..11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
Chris
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
> yours falls in that category as well.
>
> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>
> Chris
>
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>
>>
>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it. We
>>> did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close enough
>>> until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>
>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to do
>>> this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something solid,
>>> such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is all the
>>> way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>
>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do the
>>> toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and bring
>>> the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the spindle
>>> and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do this on the
>>> front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and you have
>>> your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the tires are
>>> toed out.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>
>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>> 20-20).
>>>>
>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>
>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-08-2006, 11:44 PM
#14
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Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
I last used Trig in the early 70s...... Now if I want to count past eleven
I have to take off my shoes.
XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
Thanks!
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:d9jWg.1799$IO2.414@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
> converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
> tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
> toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
> .11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
>
> tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
>
> Chris
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
>> yours falls in that category as well.
>>
>> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it.
>>>> We did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close
>>>> enough until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>>
>>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to
>>>> do this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something
>>>> solid, such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is
>>>> all the way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>>
>>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do
>>>> the toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and
>>>> bring the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the
>>>> spindle and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do
>>>> this on the front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and
>>>> you have your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the
>>>> tires are toed out.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed
>>>>> the
>>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>>> 20-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I have to take off my shoes.
XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
Thanks!
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:d9jWg.1799$IO2.414@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
> converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
> tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
> toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
> .11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
>
> tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
>
> Chris
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
>> yours falls in that category as well.
>>
>> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it.
>>>> We did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close
>>>> enough until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>>
>>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to
>>>> do this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something
>>>> solid, such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is
>>>> all the way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>>
>>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do
>>>> the toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and
>>>> bring the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the
>>>> spindle and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do
>>>> this on the front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and
>>>> you have your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the
>>>> tires are toed out.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed
>>>>> the
>>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>>> 20-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-08-2006, 11:44 PM
#15
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Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
I last used Trig in the early 70s...... Now if I want to count past eleven
I have to take off my shoes.
XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
Thanks!
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:d9jWg.1799$IO2.414@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
> converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
> tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
> toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
> .11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
>
> tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
>
> Chris
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
>> yours falls in that category as well.
>>
>> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it.
>>>> We did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close
>>>> enough until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>>
>>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to
>>>> do this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something
>>>> solid, such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is
>>>> all the way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>>
>>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do
>>>> the toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and
>>>> bring the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the
>>>> spindle and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do
>>>> this on the front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and
>>>> you have your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the
>>>> tires are toed out.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed
>>>>> the
>>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>>> 20-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I have to take off my shoes.
XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
Thanks!
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:d9jWg.1799$IO2.414@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
> converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
> tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
> toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
> .11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
>
> tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
>
> Chris
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
>> yours falls in that category as well.
>>
>> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it.
>>>> We did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close
>>>> enough until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>>
>>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to
>>>> do this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something
>>>> solid, such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is
>>>> all the way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>>
>>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do
>>>> the toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and
>>>> bring the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the
>>>> spindle and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do
>>>> this on the front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and
>>>> you have your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the
>>>> tires are toed out.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed
>>>>> the
>>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>>> 20-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-08-2006, 11:44 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
I last used Trig in the early 70s...... Now if I want to count past eleven
I have to take off my shoes.
XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
Thanks!
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:d9jWg.1799$IO2.414@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
> converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
> tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
> toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
> .11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
>
> tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
>
> Chris
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
>> yours falls in that category as well.
>>
>> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it.
>>>> We did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close
>>>> enough until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>>
>>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to
>>>> do this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something
>>>> solid, such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is
>>>> all the way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>>
>>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do
>>>> the toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and
>>>> bring the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the
>>>> spindle and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do
>>>> this on the front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and
>>>> you have your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the
>>>> tires are toed out.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed
>>>>> the
>>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>>> 20-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
I have to take off my shoes.
XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
Thanks!
"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:d9jWg.1799$IO2.414@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Oops, my bad, the post I referred to is in degrees, but that can be
> converted using some simple trig and your tire size. Just multiply the
> tangent of the toe in angle times your tire diameter and you will get the
> toe in per side. Multiply that times 2 to get total toe in. the tangent of
> .11 is .00192 so the formula would be:
>
> tire dia. * .00192 * 2 for total toe in
>
> Chris
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:B0jWg.1782$IO2.1131@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> Most vehicles will be between 0 and 1/8" toe in, and according to this,
>> yours falls in that category as well.
>>
>> http://lists.off-road.com/pipermail/...ay/027708.html
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:47be1$4529b043$422afc51$18548@FUSE.NET...
>>> What is the toe setting for a '96 XJ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
>>> news:yQhWg.1645$IO2.1217@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>>> If you're mainly worried about the toe adjustment, yes you can do it.
>>>> We did it all the time stock car racing, and you can get it close
>>>> enough until you get it to an alignment shop.
>>>>
>>>> Find a level surface. Jack up the front and use a piece of chalk to
>>>> scribe a line on the outside diameter of the tire. The easiest way to
>>>> do this is to hold the chalk with your hand braced against something
>>>> solid, such as the fender. Spin the tire slowly until the chalk line is
>>>> all the way around the tire. Do this on each side.
>>>>
>>>> Now let the vehicle down and settle the springs by pushing on each
>>>> corner of the bumpers a couple times. It will require 2 people to do
>>>> the toe measurement. Use carpenter squares, or something similar, and
>>>> bring the edge of the square up to the chalk line at the height of the
>>>> spindle and measure the distance between the squares. You have to do
>>>> this on the front and back of the tire. Subtract the 2 measurements and
>>>> you have your toe setting. A larger measurement in the front means the
>>>> tires are toed out.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> <lynnhowlyn@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1160355627.297212.301490@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
>>>>> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
>>>>> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
>>>>> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed
>>>>> the
>>>>> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
>>>>> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
>>>>> 20-20).
>>>>>
>>>>> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
>>>>> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
>>>>> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
>>>>> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
>>>>> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>>>>>
>>>>> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
>>>>> and it's got power steering.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
>>>>> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
>>>>> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
10-09-2006, 12:13 AM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Sounds like you were messing with your drag link, which only sets
the steering wheel center: http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg I
like an eighth of an inch toe-in as measure at the bulbous most part of
the inside tire, I find that works well with oversized off road tires on
a straight axle. The easiest way to measure this is with two yard sticks
clamped together at the rear of tires at axle height, then an eighth
clearance at the front, axle height, confirms.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"lynnhowlyn@aol.com" wrote:
>
> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>
> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
> 20-20).
>
> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>
> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
> and it's got power steering.
>
> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>
> Thanks
the steering wheel center: http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg I
like an eighth of an inch toe-in as measure at the bulbous most part of
the inside tire, I find that works well with oversized off road tires on
a straight axle. The easiest way to measure this is with two yard sticks
clamped together at the rear of tires at axle height, then an eighth
clearance at the front, axle height, confirms.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"lynnhowlyn@aol.com" wrote:
>
> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>
> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
> 20-20).
>
> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>
> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
> and it's got power steering.
>
> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>
> Thanks
10-09-2006, 12:13 AM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Sounds like you were messing with your drag link, which only sets
the steering wheel center: http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg I
like an eighth of an inch toe-in as measure at the bulbous most part of
the inside tire, I find that works well with oversized off road tires on
a straight axle. The easiest way to measure this is with two yard sticks
clamped together at the rear of tires at axle height, then an eighth
clearance at the front, axle height, confirms.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"lynnhowlyn@aol.com" wrote:
>
> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>
> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
> 20-20).
>
> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>
> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
> and it's got power steering.
>
> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>
> Thanks
the steering wheel center: http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg I
like an eighth of an inch toe-in as measure at the bulbous most part of
the inside tire, I find that works well with oversized off road tires on
a straight axle. The easiest way to measure this is with two yard sticks
clamped together at the rear of tires at axle height, then an eighth
clearance at the front, axle height, confirms.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"lynnhowlyn@aol.com" wrote:
>
> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>
> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
> 20-20).
>
> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>
> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
> and it's got power steering.
>
> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>
> Thanks
10-09-2006, 12:13 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Sounds like you were messing with your drag link, which only sets
the steering wheel center: http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg I
like an eighth of an inch toe-in as measure at the bulbous most part of
the inside tire, I find that works well with oversized off road tires on
a straight axle. The easiest way to measure this is with two yard sticks
clamped together at the rear of tires at axle height, then an eighth
clearance at the front, axle height, confirms.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
"lynnhowlyn@aol.com" wrote:
>
> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>
> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
> 20-20).
>
> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>
> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
> and it's got power steering.
>
> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>
> Thanks
the steering wheel center: http://www.----------.com/CJalignment.jpg I
like an eighth of an inch toe-in as measure at the bulbous most part of
the inside tire, I find that works well with oversized off road tires on
a straight axle. The easiest way to measure this is with two yard sticks
clamped together at the rear of tires at axle height, then an eighth
clearance at the front, axle height, confirms.
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"lynnhowlyn@aol.com" wrote:
>
> Just installed a replacement steering gear box on my 83 CJ7 - and in
> doing so I couldn't get the tie rod end off the pitman arm, so I
> basically unscrewed it from the rest of the tie rod - then installed
> the pitman arm/tie rod end onto the replacement gearbox and screwed the
> tie rod end back onto the tie rod using the adjustment sleeve.
>
> Clearly the steering alignment is most likely NOT correct (yes - I
> should have measured a bit before I diassembled - but hindsite is
> 20-20).
>
> Due to some scheduling issues and my personal travel schedule, I can't
> get into my friendly neighborhood alignment shop in the near term
> future, but am planning an off-rod weekend event in a couple weeks.
> I'll be trailering the CJ to the event - but would like to get the
> steering alignment into the "ballpark" if possible before the event.
>
> Running 33 inch tires, 2 1/2 in spring lift, 1/2 inch "shackle lift"
> and it's got power steering.
>
> Any suggestions, links to a "do-it-myself" page for DIY steering
> alignment? Seems like there's a way to measure across the tire treat
> front and rear and then adjust accordingly.
>
> Thanks
10-09-2006, 12:48 AM
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Re: CJ7 - ballpark alignment - DIY?
Hi Bill,
http://www.----------.com/xjAlign.jpg The adjacent 0.25 degrees
over the 27.7 inch hypotenuse of an right triangle would have an
opposite height of 0.12086481773343481" ;-) Close enough to 0.125" or an
1/8" for government work.
http://www.saltire.com/applets/triangles/tri1s2a.htm
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billy ray wrote:
>
> I last used Trig in the early 70s...... Now if I want to count past eleven
> I have to take off my shoes.
>
> XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
> WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
> 31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
> 33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
>
> Thanks!
http://www.----------.com/xjAlign.jpg The adjacent 0.25 degrees
over the 27.7 inch hypotenuse of an right triangle would have an
opposite height of 0.12086481773343481" ;-) Close enough to 0.125" or an
1/8" for government work.
http://www.saltire.com/applets/triangles/tri1s2a.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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billy ray wrote:
>
> I last used Trig in the early 70s...... Now if I want to count past eleven
> I have to take off my shoes.
>
> XJ 27.7" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.106368 ~ 1/9" ?
> WJ 29.3" x 0.00192 x 2 = 0.112512 ~ 1/9"
> 31s = 0.11904 ~ 1/8"
> 33s = 0.12672 ~1/8"
>
> Thanks!