CJ7 3spds?
06-21-2007, 12:39 AM
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Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:52:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
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Hey you FAT Neanderthal, Queer suck Monkey, is that what your parents
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:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
:>name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
:>Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
:>country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
:>self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
:>one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
:>language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
:>senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
:>me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
:>it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
:>address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@***.net,
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Hey you FAT Neanderthal, Queer suck Monkey, is that what your parents
taught you how to cut & paste, what an uneducated bunch of Protoplasm.
:> There you go again, the little jealous, REALLY JEALOUS, over the fact
:>that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents, possessions,
:>successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfing body, family, and
:>name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile coward from Navarre,
:>Florida, that of course, doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our
:>country for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its
:>self, with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no
:>one's surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
:>language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
:>senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
:>me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
:>it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
:>address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
:> Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
:>As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
:> But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
:>fraud@mchsi.com, abuse@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, abuse@***.net,
:>abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
:> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
:>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
:>
:>
:>"24Bit®" <standing@the.exit> wrote in message
:>news:mnnj73lith2uts0gg2jlv08nqb2gf8snvb@4ax.com. ..
:>><snip queer fantasies over my body, and the jealous senile babbling over my
:>accomplishments and conquests>
L.W.(Bill) ------ III replied in message 450E4BED.E758656A@***.net:
Like, you know you've ever sucked a sweater ---- than mine?
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06-21-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
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TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:52 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:32 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
While I tend to agree that they were not supposed to be in 80 models
it appears that a few were built with T150 3 speeds in them. Possible
at start of model year to use up old stock. Other than it being a 3
speed it is a sturdy tranny. Ratios are 1st-2.99, 2nd-1.75, 3rd-1.00
and rev-3.17. Around 79 saw the end of the T18 4 speed too and the 4
sp that replaced with a T-176 that had a first gear not much deepr
than the T-150 rather than the granny gear first of the T-18. The T150
will hold up fine but your clutch will not if you lft it and install
bigger tires with regearing axles. If you leave it stock you will do
fine.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:29:39 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
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TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:29:39 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:29:39 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: Re: CJ7 3spds?
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 04:29:39 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@WEEEEshaw.ca>
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
>nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
>comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
>and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
I would not use tires like that with stock gearing because it would be
hard on clutch. Jeeps back then came with a small tires diameter and
32 or 33's would represent a large effective final drive ratio change
and I would not recomand it unless you regear it or maybe swap in a
old T-18 with a granny first gear.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-21-2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: CJ7 3spds?
No one has ever bitched about the 3 speed that I have heard of, it is a
strong tranny. I have wheeled with folks with them.
I have never heard of any clutch failures in CJ's from 'anyone' who
knows how to drive a standard tranny in a Jeep. When you off road you
have your low range which goes nicely with the 3 speed.
Seeing as the CJ7 will fit 31's in it's stock form which is where the
stock speedometer gear is exact to a GPS, upping to a 32 or 33" tires
isn't a big step.
The higher number of gears in the later transmissions and the overdrive
they add in is for that CAFE or whatever they want to call the fuel
consumption numbers. You get better mileage when you have the gear
ranges to keep the engine in it's 'sweet' spot or around 2300 rpm for
the 258.
Look close at the frame tails and at the inside added box frame on the
passenger side behind the door and on the drivers side by the rear of
the front spring for rust and cracks. Also check the steering box
anchor points.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
griffin wrote:
> Hmm, must be a '79 then. I'm going to check it out tomorrow so I'll look at
> the registration, etc. I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
> nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
> comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
> and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4679bb52$0$30848$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=277032 If it's
> a
>> year older it would be stronger than anything in Daimler.
>
>
strong tranny. I have wheeled with folks with them.
I have never heard of any clutch failures in CJ's from 'anyone' who
knows how to drive a standard tranny in a Jeep. When you off road you
have your low range which goes nicely with the 3 speed.
Seeing as the CJ7 will fit 31's in it's stock form which is where the
stock speedometer gear is exact to a GPS, upping to a 32 or 33" tires
isn't a big step.
The higher number of gears in the later transmissions and the overdrive
they add in is for that CAFE or whatever they want to call the fuel
consumption numbers. You get better mileage when you have the gear
ranges to keep the engine in it's 'sweet' spot or around 2300 rpm for
the 258.
Look close at the frame tails and at the inside added box frame on the
passenger side behind the door and on the drivers side by the rear of
the front spring for rust and cracks. Also check the steering box
anchor points.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
griffin wrote:
> Hmm, must be a '79 then. I'm going to check it out tomorrow so I'll look at
> the registration, etc. I noticed it lists these gears at 2.99. I know
> nothing of how gears work and what the subsequenct number means when it
> comes to offroading ...is this set-up good if I were to add a bit of lift
> and throw 32 or 33" muds on?
>
> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4679bb52$0$30848$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> They didn't make a three speed for '80:
>> http://jeep.off-road.com/jeep/articl....jsp?id=277032 If it's
> a
>> year older it would be stronger than anything in Daimler.
>
>