Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

That is a nice site because my server only holds the photos for a couple
days and it misses piles of them also.

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Excellent !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42826FE4.965FF57C@sympatico.ca...
> > This site has them eventually.
> >
> > http://www.usenet-replayer.com/group...autos.4x4.html
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Anywhere else you could put them Mike ? I don't have access to that
> group
> > > from my ISP, and it doesn't seem to be hosted by google either ?
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42826981.DF97F380@sympatico.ca...
> > >
> > > > I am going to post a couple photos of the trip a couple weeks ago when
> I
> > > > blew the last hub over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

That is a nice site because my server only holds the photos for a couple
days and it misses piles of them also.

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Excellent !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42826FE4.965FF57C@sympatico.ca...
> > This site has them eventually.
> >
> > http://www.usenet-replayer.com/group...autos.4x4.html
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Anywhere else you could put them Mike ? I don't have access to that
> group
> > > from my ISP, and it doesn't seem to be hosted by google either ?
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42826981.DF97F380@sympatico.ca...
> > >
> > > > I am going to post a couple photos of the trip a couple weeks ago when
> I
> > > > blew the last hub over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

That is a nice site because my server only holds the photos for a couple
days and it misses piles of them also.

Mike

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Excellent !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42826FE4.965FF57C@sympatico.ca...
> > This site has them eventually.
> >
> > http://www.usenet-replayer.com/group...autos.4x4.html
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Anywhere else you could put them Mike ? I don't have access to that
> group
> > > from my ISP, and it doesn't seem to be hosted by google either ?
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:42826981.DF97F380@sympatico.ca...
> > >
> > > > I am going to post a couple photos of the trip a couple weeks ago when
> I
> > > > blew the last hub over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

Re exploding hubs:

The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
don't back out.

I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.

That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
stronger axle u-joints.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

Re exploding hubs:

The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
don't back out.

I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.

That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
stronger axle u-joints.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

Re exploding hubs:

The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
don't back out.

I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.

That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
stronger axle u-joints.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

Re exploding hubs:

The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
don't back out.

I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.

That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
stronger axle u-joints.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

On this one I had 2 bolts snapped off clean with the other 3 still in
there solid and the hub casing blown in bits hard enough to destroy the
chrome hub cover.

I got really lucky or just determined and managed to get enough of a
ding with a dremil bit as a center punch on one of the snapped bolts so
my little screwdriver managed to back it out 1/16" at a turn. Took 2
beers... ;-)

I do use loctite on them.....

I have heard of the stud and nut approach and I guess I should see about
upgrading the front axles and yokes, the rear is a Dana 44 already.

I did try the 'heavy duty' lifetime solid core u-joints. They were
total garbage, blew the first one within 8 months due mostly to water
contamination. I have 'one' lifetime one left in there out of the 6 I
installed 5 years ago.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Robert Bills wrote:
>
> Re exploding hubs:
>
> The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
> backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
> studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
> don't back out.
>
> I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
> changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
> although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
> the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.
>
> That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
> axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
> which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
> I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
> stronger axle u-joints.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

On this one I had 2 bolts snapped off clean with the other 3 still in
there solid and the hub casing blown in bits hard enough to destroy the
chrome hub cover.

I got really lucky or just determined and managed to get enough of a
ding with a dremil bit as a center punch on one of the snapped bolts so
my little screwdriver managed to back it out 1/16" at a turn. Took 2
beers... ;-)

I do use loctite on them.....

I have heard of the stud and nut approach and I guess I should see about
upgrading the front axles and yokes, the rear is a Dana 44 already.

I did try the 'heavy duty' lifetime solid core u-joints. They were
total garbage, blew the first one within 8 months due mostly to water
contamination. I have 'one' lifetime one left in there out of the 6 I
installed 5 years ago.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Robert Bills wrote:
>
> Re exploding hubs:
>
> The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
> backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
> studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
> don't back out.
>
> I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
> changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
> although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
> the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.
>
> That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
> axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
> which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
> I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
> stronger axle u-joints.

Re: CJ starting problems fixed. Now blowing CJ hubs.
 

On this one I had 2 bolts snapped off clean with the other 3 still in
there solid and the hub casing blown in bits hard enough to destroy the
chrome hub cover.

I got really lucky or just determined and managed to get enough of a
ding with a dremil bit as a center punch on one of the snapped bolts so
my little screwdriver managed to back it out 1/16" at a turn. Took 2
beers... ;-)

I do use loctite on them.....

I have heard of the stud and nut approach and I guess I should see about
upgrading the front axles and yokes, the rear is a Dana 44 already.

I did try the 'heavy duty' lifetime solid core u-joints. They were
total garbage, blew the first one within 8 months due mostly to water
contamination. I have 'one' lifetime one left in there out of the 6 I
installed 5 years ago.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Robert Bills wrote:
>
> Re exploding hubs:
>
> The number one reason for exploding hubs is one or more hub bolts
> backing out, which puts incredible force on the others. Try using
> studs and nuts instead of bolts. Easier to torque properly and they
> don't back out.
>
> I discovered this at Moab when I blew two hubs within 1/4 mile. I
> changed to studs the next day and have had no further problems,
> although for peace of mind I later changed to 6-bolt hubs rather than
> the stock 5-bolt hubs used in later CJs.
>
> That being said, stronger hubs will move the point of failure to your
> axle shafts and/or axle u-joints. Rather than use the Warn "fuse,"
> which almost guarantees the necessity for a trail fix on tough terrain,
> I elected to install larger (i.e., stronger) chromoly axle shafts and
> stronger axle u-joints.