CJ rear bars
09-23-2003, 02:11 PM
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CJ rear bars
I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
disconnect system or do anything else at all?
Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
that something that should be considered?
one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
disconnect system or do anything else at all?
Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
that something that should be considered?
09-23-2003, 02:23 PM
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Re: CJ rear bars
A track bar prevents lateral (side to side) shifting of the axle, especially
during turns. A track bar is usually attached to one side of the axle and
crosses directly across and is attached to the opposite side of the vehicle
frame. This allows the axle to move up and down and articulate without
shifting appreciably from side to side.
A sway bar resists body roll by the twisting of the bar when the body tries
to roll during a turn.
I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have needed
track bars.
If you don't have a sway bar in the rear, then, yes, you have full rear
articulation available. You would still need disconnects in the front,
though, when you are off road.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
during turns. A track bar is usually attached to one side of the axle and
crosses directly across and is attached to the opposite side of the vehicle
frame. This allows the axle to move up and down and articulate without
shifting appreciably from side to side.
A sway bar resists body roll by the twisting of the bar when the body tries
to roll during a turn.
I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have needed
track bars.
If you don't have a sway bar in the rear, then, yes, you have full rear
articulation available. You would still need disconnects in the front,
though, when you are off road.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
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> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
09-23-2003, 02:23 PM
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Re: CJ rear bars
A track bar prevents lateral (side to side) shifting of the axle, especially
during turns. A track bar is usually attached to one side of the axle and
crosses directly across and is attached to the opposite side of the vehicle
frame. This allows the axle to move up and down and articulate without
shifting appreciably from side to side.
A sway bar resists body roll by the twisting of the bar when the body tries
to roll during a turn.
I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have needed
track bars.
If you don't have a sway bar in the rear, then, yes, you have full rear
articulation available. You would still need disconnects in the front,
though, when you are off road.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309231011.4bc20a10@posting.google.c om...
> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
during turns. A track bar is usually attached to one side of the axle and
crosses directly across and is attached to the opposite side of the vehicle
frame. This allows the axle to move up and down and articulate without
shifting appreciably from side to side.
A sway bar resists body roll by the twisting of the bar when the body tries
to roll during a turn.
I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have needed
track bars.
If you don't have a sway bar in the rear, then, yes, you have full rear
articulation available. You would still need disconnects in the front,
though, when you are off road.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309231011.4bc20a10@posting.google.c om...
> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
09-23-2003, 02:51 PM
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Re: CJ rear bars
The CJ7 has a front anti sway bar only.
A track bar is used on vehicles with coil springs or soft leaf springs
like a YJ has to keep the axle centered under the vehicle. It goes from
the axle to the frame.
The CJ's have stiff springs and don't need a track bar or a rear anti
sway bar.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
A track bar is used on vehicles with coil springs or soft leaf springs
like a YJ has to keep the axle centered under the vehicle. It goes from
the axle to the frame.
The CJ's have stiff springs and don't need a track bar or a rear anti
sway bar.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
09-23-2003, 02:51 PM
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Re: CJ rear bars
The CJ7 has a front anti sway bar only.
A track bar is used on vehicles with coil springs or soft leaf springs
like a YJ has to keep the axle centered under the vehicle. It goes from
the axle to the frame.
The CJ's have stiff springs and don't need a track bar or a rear anti
sway bar.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
A track bar is used on vehicles with coil springs or soft leaf springs
like a YJ has to keep the axle centered under the vehicle. It goes from
the axle to the frame.
The CJ's have stiff springs and don't need a track bar or a rear anti
sway bar.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> I have been told that CJs only have a front sway bar, and not a rear
> one. Does this mean that you can get full articulation on the rear
> wheels anytime, without having to install any kind of quick
> disconnect system or do anything else at all?
>
> Also, I'm not sure exaclty what the difference is between a "track"
> bar and a "sway" bar - or maybe they are the same thing - but if not,
> does a CJ rear lack a "track" bar also, or are quick disconnects for
> that something that should be considered?
09-23-2003, 04:12 PM
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Re: CJ rear bars
> I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
> vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
> resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
> narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have needed
> track bars.
>
CJs do not have rear track bars or rear sway bars. This is a large part of
why they roll over during sudden manuvers. They didn't get front sway bars
until '76. With a lift kit, the springs are generally stiffer and the sway
bars can come off permantly. This is a decision that each vehicle operator
should come to on his own, but many of us have removed the sway bar from our
CJs.
09-23-2003, 04:12 PM
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Re: CJ rear bars
> I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
> vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
> resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
> narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have needed
> track bars.
>
CJs do not have rear track bars or rear sway bars. This is a large part of
why they roll over during sudden manuvers. They didn't get front sway bars
until '76. With a lift kit, the springs are generally stiffer and the sway
bars can come off permantly. This is a decision that each vehicle operator
should come to on his own, but many of us have removed the sway bar from our
CJs.
09-24-2003, 08:34 AM
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Re: CJ rear bars
Thanks, Jeff. Being a fairly recent inductee into the world of Jeeps (98),
my knowledge of earlier models' details isn't what it should be. :) I
appreciate the info.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> > I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
> > vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
> > resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
> > narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have
needed
> > track bars.
> >
>
> CJs do not have rear track bars or rear sway bars. This is a large part of
> why they roll over during sudden manuvers. They didn't get front sway bars
> until '76. With a lift kit, the springs are generally stiffer and the sway
> bars can come off permantly. This is a decision that each vehicle operator
> should come to on his own, but many of us have removed the sway bar from
our
> CJs.
>
>
>
>
my knowledge of earlier models' details isn't what it should be. :) I
appreciate the info.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vn1ab6c1mbc369@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
> > vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
> > resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
> > narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have
needed
> > track bars.
> >
>
> CJs do not have rear track bars or rear sway bars. This is a large part of
> why they roll over during sudden manuvers. They didn't get front sway bars
> until '76. With a lift kit, the springs are generally stiffer and the sway
> bars can come off permantly. This is a decision that each vehicle operator
> should come to on his own, but many of us have removed the sway bar from
our
> CJs.
>
>
>
>
09-24-2003, 08:34 AM
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Re: CJ rear bars
Thanks, Jeff. Being a fairly recent inductee into the world of Jeeps (98),
my knowledge of earlier models' details isn't what it should be. :) I
appreciate the info.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vn1ab6c1mbc369@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
> > vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
> > resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
> > narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have
needed
> > track bars.
> >
>
> CJs do not have rear track bars or rear sway bars. This is a large part of
> why they roll over during sudden manuvers. They didn't get front sway bars
> until '76. With a lift kit, the springs are generally stiffer and the sway
> bars can come off permantly. This is a decision that each vehicle operator
> should come to on his own, but many of us have removed the sway bar from
our
> CJs.
>
>
>
>
my knowledge of earlier models' details isn't what it should be. :) I
appreciate the info.
--
Jim
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"Jeff Strickland" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vn1ab6c1mbc369@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > I can't speak for what CJs came with, but I know that often leaf spring
> > vehicles don't have track bars because the leafs provide sufficient
> > resistance to lateral shift. CJs, however, if I remember correctly have
> > narrower (2") springs than YJs (2 1/2"), and therefore, might have
needed
> > track bars.
> >
>
> CJs do not have rear track bars or rear sway bars. This is a large part of
> why they roll over during sudden manuvers. They didn't get front sway bars
> until '76. With a lift kit, the springs are generally stiffer and the sway
> bars can come off permantly. This is a decision that each vehicle operator
> should come to on his own, but many of us have removed the sway bar from
our
> CJs.
>
>
>
>
09-24-2003, 10:14 AM
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Re: CJ rear bars
Thanks. This explains why I have had a hard time finding a rear sway
bar quick-disconnect kit. :-)
Just out of curiosity: I know that disconnecting a sway bar on a
vehicle that has one improves articulation. Does removing a track bar
do anything to enhance your off-road prowess, or should it just be
left alone (assuming you have one in the first place)?
bar quick-disconnect kit. :-)
Just out of curiosity: I know that disconnecting a sway bar on a
vehicle that has one improves articulation. Does removing a track bar
do anything to enhance your off-road prowess, or should it just be
left alone (assuming you have one in the first place)?