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bllsht 03-18-2007 03:49 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
The blower switch just routes current through different portions of
the resister for different fan speeds. It's the resister that actually
does the work of varying voltage to the motor.


On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:04:09 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>What's up with the resistor strip? Why do we need it? I thought the three
>position blower switch gave the three different voltgaes to the motor. I
>just dont understand what the resistor strip does (other than resist)
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45fd6d79$0$6415$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> SnoMan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:57:25 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> not having the dash off wasn't the problem (I agree it would be easier
>>>> if it was off). My problem was the hard plastic duct that runs from the
>>>> air intake on the hood down to the heater assumbly. It was this duct
>>>> that caused my problems. You are correct though, it's easier to see
>>>> what's going on with the dash off.
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is a bigger motor too you need to consider changing the
>>> resitor strip that gives you speeds because the stock one may fail in
>>> time under the heavier current draw from a bigger motor.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>>
>> The are both stock GM items. AMC used a GM heater setup with the same
>> resistor pack which is why the larger motor fits right in and to the
>> blower cage also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


bllsht 03-18-2007 03:49 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
The blower switch just routes current through different portions of
the resister for different fan speeds. It's the resister that actually
does the work of varying voltage to the motor.


On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:04:09 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>What's up with the resistor strip? Why do we need it? I thought the three
>position blower switch gave the three different voltgaes to the motor. I
>just dont understand what the resistor strip does (other than resist)
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45fd6d79$0$6415$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> SnoMan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:57:25 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> not having the dash off wasn't the problem (I agree it would be easier
>>>> if it was off). My problem was the hard plastic duct that runs from the
>>>> air intake on the hood down to the heater assumbly. It was this duct
>>>> that caused my problems. You are correct though, it's easier to see
>>>> what's going on with the dash off.
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is a bigger motor too you need to consider changing the
>>> resitor strip that gives you speeds because the stock one may fail in
>>> time under the heavier current draw from a bigger motor.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>>
>> The are both stock GM items. AMC used a GM heater setup with the same
>> resistor pack which is why the larger motor fits right in and to the
>> blower cage also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


bllsht 03-18-2007 03:49 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
The blower switch just routes current through different portions of
the resister for different fan speeds. It's the resister that actually
does the work of varying voltage to the motor.


On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:04:09 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>What's up with the resistor strip? Why do we need it? I thought the three
>position blower switch gave the three different voltgaes to the motor. I
>just dont understand what the resistor strip does (other than resist)
>
>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:45fd6d79$0$6415$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>> SnoMan wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:57:25 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> not having the dash off wasn't the problem (I agree it would be easier
>>>> if it was off). My problem was the hard plastic duct that runs from the
>>>> air intake on the hood down to the heater assumbly. It was this duct
>>>> that caused my problems. You are correct though, it's easier to see
>>>> what's going on with the dash off.
>>>
>>>
>>> If this is a bigger motor too you need to consider changing the
>>> resitor strip that gives you speeds because the stock one may fail in
>>> time under the heavier current draw from a bigger motor.
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com

>>
>> The are both stock GM items. AMC used a GM heater setup with the same
>> resistor pack which is why the larger motor fits right in and to the
>> blower cage also.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


SnoMan 03-18-2007 04:38 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:49:16 -0700, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:

>The blower switch just routes current through different portions of
>the resister for different fan speeds. It's the resister that actually
>does the work of varying voltage to the motor.



True and the voltage and current dropped across them is converted to
heat and airflow in duct keeps them for toasting most of the time.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-18-2007 04:38 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:49:16 -0700, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:

>The blower switch just routes current through different portions of
>the resister for different fan speeds. It's the resister that actually
>does the work of varying voltage to the motor.



True and the voltage and current dropped across them is converted to
heat and airflow in duct keeps them for toasting most of the time.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-18-2007 04:38 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:49:16 -0700, bllsht <nospam@dot.net> wrote:

>The blower switch just routes current through different portions of
>the resister for different fan speeds. It's the resister that actually
>does the work of varying voltage to the motor.



True and the voltage and current dropped across them is converted to
heat and airflow in duct keeps them for toasting most of the time.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-18-2007 04:44 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:59:06 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

> After
>about 10 miles down the hi-way...BOOM...it backfired and the entire Jeep
>shook. So I pulled it over and it died. I did re-start the engine and
>after about 30 seconds...BOOM.



Are we talking thru carb or exhuast on this backfire problem because
this narrows down possible causes.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-18-2007 04:44 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:59:06 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

> After
>about 10 miles down the hi-way...BOOM...it backfired and the entire Jeep
>shook. So I pulled it over and it died. I did re-start the engine and
>after about 30 seconds...BOOM.



Are we talking thru carb or exhuast on this backfire problem because
this narrows down possible causes.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-18-2007 04:44 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:59:06 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

> After
>about 10 miles down the hi-way...BOOM...it backfired and the entire Jeep
>shook. So I pulled it over and it died. I did re-start the engine and
>after about 30 seconds...BOOM.



Are we talking thru carb or exhuast on this backfire problem because
this narrows down possible causes.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Anthony T 03-18-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
SnoMan,
I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the back
seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:739rv2hs0oo1g3crtj48fb7uij49o9onjd@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:59:06 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
> wrote:
>
>> After
>>about 10 miles down the hi-way...BOOM...it backfired and the entire Jeep
>>shook. So I pulled it over and it died. I did re-start the engine and
>>after about 30 seconds...BOOM.

>
>
> Are we talking thru carb or exhuast on this backfire problem because
> this narrows down possible causes.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



Anthony T 03-18-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
SnoMan,
I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the back
seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:739rv2hs0oo1g3crtj48fb7uij49o9onjd@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:59:06 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
> wrote:
>
>> After
>>about 10 miles down the hi-way...BOOM...it backfired and the entire Jeep
>>shook. So I pulled it over and it died. I did re-start the engine and
>>after about 30 seconds...BOOM.

>
>
> Are we talking thru carb or exhuast on this backfire problem because
> this narrows down possible causes.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



Anthony T 03-18-2007 10:51 PM

Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
SnoMan,
I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the back
seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:739rv2hs0oo1g3crtj48fb7uij49o9onjd@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:59:06 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
> wrote:
>
>> After
>>about 10 miles down the hi-way...BOOM...it backfired and the entire Jeep
>>shook. So I pulled it over and it died. I did re-start the engine and
>>after about 30 seconds...BOOM.

>
>
> Are we talking thru carb or exhuast on this backfire problem because
> this narrows down possible causes.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



SnoMan 03-19-2007 08:32 AM

Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:51:16 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the back
>seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
>didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
>back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.



When it is through the carb it is usually (not always) from a leaning
out conditon. When mixture gets too lean it does not fire properly and
the mixuture is dumped into exhaust manifold where it starts to ignite
and then the flame travel back into cylinder and into intake during
valve overlap. You may have a weak pump or plugged filter that is
causing it to lean out under high demand periods. I sticking or burnt
valve can cause this to but if it is a burnt valve it would be
consistant. I have also seen a worn cam lobe cause this but it too was
also consistant and predictable.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-19-2007 08:32 AM

Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:51:16 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the back
>seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
>didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
>back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.



When it is through the carb it is usually (not always) from a leaning
out conditon. When mixture gets too lean it does not fire properly and
the mixuture is dumped into exhaust manifold where it starts to ignite
and then the flame travel back into cylinder and into intake during
valve overlap. You may have a weak pump or plugged filter that is
causing it to lean out under high demand periods. I sticking or burnt
valve can cause this to but if it is a burnt valve it would be
consistant. I have also seen a worn cam lobe cause this but it too was
also consistant and predictable.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-19-2007 08:32 AM

Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:51:16 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the back
>seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
>didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
>back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.



When it is through the carb it is usually (not always) from a leaning
out conditon. When mixture gets too lean it does not fire properly and
the mixuture is dumped into exhaust manifold where it starts to ignite
and then the flame travel back into cylinder and into intake during
valve overlap. You may have a weak pump or plugged filter that is
causing it to lean out under high demand periods. I sticking or burnt
valve can cause this to but if it is a burnt valve it would be
consistant. I have also seen a worn cam lobe cause this but it too was
also consistant and predictable.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Anthony T 03-21-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:5e0tv299pir821c9s94ubt6khe0klkkmcm@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:51:16 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the
>>back
>>seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
>>didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
>>back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.

>
>
> When it is through the carb it is usually (not always) from a leaning
> out conditon. When mixture gets too lean it does not fire properly and
> the mixuture is dumped into exhaust manifold where it starts to ignite
> and then the flame travel back into cylinder and into intake during
> valve overlap. You may have a weak pump or plugged filter that is
> causing it to lean out under high demand periods. I sticking or burnt
> valve can cause this to but if it is a burnt valve it would be
> consistant. I have also seen a worn cam lobe cause this but it too was
> also consistant and predictable.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



Anthony T 03-21-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:5e0tv299pir821c9s94ubt6khe0klkkmcm@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:51:16 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the
>>back
>>seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
>>didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
>>back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.

>
>
> When it is through the carb it is usually (not always) from a leaning
> out conditon. When mixture gets too lean it does not fire properly and
> the mixuture is dumped into exhaust manifold where it starts to ignite
> and then the flame travel back into cylinder and into intake during
> valve overlap. You may have a weak pump or plugged filter that is
> causing it to lean out under high demand periods. I sticking or burnt
> valve can cause this to but if it is a burnt valve it would be
> consistant. I have also seen a worn cam lobe cause this but it too was
> also consistant and predictable.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



Anthony T 03-21-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:5e0tv299pir821c9s94ubt6khe0klkkmcm@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:51:16 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I'll be honest, I wasn't paying too much attention as my Son was in the
>>back
>>seat and I just wanted to get off the hi-way after I heard the Bang (I
>>didn't want to be stuck in the middle of a four lane with a child in the
>>back seat) I thing it was thru the carb, but not absolutely sure.

>
>
> When it is through the carb it is usually (not always) from a leaning
> out conditon. When mixture gets too lean it does not fire properly and
> the mixuture is dumped into exhaust manifold where it starts to ignite
> and then the flame travel back into cylinder and into intake during
> valve overlap. You may have a weak pump or plugged filter that is
> causing it to lean out under high demand periods. I sticking or burnt
> valve can cause this to but if it is a burnt valve it would be
> consistant. I have also seen a worn cam lobe cause this but it too was
> also consistant and predictable.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



Mike Romain 03-21-2007 11:20 AM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Hmm...........

I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!

(There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)

A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
big bang and stall.....

The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....

I don't buy it for a second....

You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
loose on the coil or distributor.

Just my $0.02,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Anthony T wrote:
> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
> gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>

<snip>

Mike Romain 03-21-2007 11:20 AM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Hmm...........

I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!

(There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)

A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
big bang and stall.....

The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....

I don't buy it for a second....

You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
loose on the coil or distributor.

Just my $0.02,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Anthony T wrote:
> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
> gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>

<snip>

Mike Romain 03-21-2007 11:20 AM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Hmm...........

I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!

(There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)

A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
big bang and stall.....

The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....

I don't buy it for a second....

You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
loose on the coil or distributor.

Just my $0.02,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Anthony T wrote:
> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
> gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>

<snip>

Mike Romain 03-21-2007 12:33 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Yup, my CJ7 had a 'blown' engine according to 'real' Chrysler mechanics
when I bought it so I got it really cheap. It had new carb all new tune
up and still blew tons of oil into the air filter while not idling for
----....

It was just a worn out gas tank vent..... (charcoal canister)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
>> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
>> was running really rough.
>> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
>> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
>> the chock......problem solved.
>> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Hmm...........
>>>
>>> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
>>>
>>> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
>>> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
>>> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
>>>
>>> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
>>> big bang and stall.....
>>>
>>> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
>>> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
>>> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
>>>
>>> I don't buy it for a second....
>>>
>>> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
>>> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
>>> loose on the coil or distributor.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Anthony T wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>>>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>>>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
>>>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>>>>
>>> <snip>

>
>


Mike Romain 03-21-2007 12:33 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Yup, my CJ7 had a 'blown' engine according to 'real' Chrysler mechanics
when I bought it so I got it really cheap. It had new carb all new tune
up and still blew tons of oil into the air filter while not idling for
----....

It was just a worn out gas tank vent..... (charcoal canister)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
>> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
>> was running really rough.
>> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
>> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
>> the chock......problem solved.
>> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Hmm...........
>>>
>>> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
>>>
>>> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
>>> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
>>> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
>>>
>>> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
>>> big bang and stall.....
>>>
>>> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
>>> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
>>> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
>>>
>>> I don't buy it for a second....
>>>
>>> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
>>> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
>>> loose on the coil or distributor.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Anthony T wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>>>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>>>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
>>>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>>>>
>>> <snip>

>
>


Mike Romain 03-21-2007 12:33 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Yup, my CJ7 had a 'blown' engine according to 'real' Chrysler mechanics
when I bought it so I got it really cheap. It had new carb all new tune
up and still blew tons of oil into the air filter while not idling for
----....

It was just a worn out gas tank vent..... (charcoal canister)

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
> Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.
>
> Earle
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
>> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
>> was running really rough.
>> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
>> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
>> the chock......problem solved.
>> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>> Hmm...........
>>>
>>> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
>>>
>>> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
>>> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
>>> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
>>>
>>> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
>>> big bang and stall.....
>>>
>>> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
>>> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
>>> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
>>>
>>> I don't buy it for a second....
>>>
>>> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
>>> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
>>> loose on the coil or distributor.
>>>
>>> Just my $0.02,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Anthony T wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>>>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>>>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
>>>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>>>>
>>> <snip>

>
>


FrankW 03-21-2007 12:40 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
was running really rough.
A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
the chock......problem solved.
Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes

Mike Romain wrote:
> Hmm...........
>
> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
>
> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
>
> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> big bang and stall.....
>
> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
>
> I don't buy it for a second....
>
> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
> loose on the coil or distributor.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Anthony T wrote:
>
>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>>

> <snip>



FrankW 03-21-2007 12:40 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
was running really rough.
A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
the chock......problem solved.
Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes

Mike Romain wrote:
> Hmm...........
>
> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
>
> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
>
> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> big bang and stall.....
>
> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
>
> I don't buy it for a second....
>
> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
> loose on the coil or distributor.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Anthony T wrote:
>
>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>>

> <snip>



FrankW 03-21-2007 12:40 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
was running really rough.
A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
the chock......problem solved.
Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes

Mike Romain wrote:
> Hmm...........
>
> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
>
> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
>
> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> big bang and stall.....
>
> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
>
> I don't buy it for a second....
>
> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
> loose on the coil or distributor.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Anthony T wrote:
>
>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
>>

> <snip>



Earle Horton 03-21-2007 12:45 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.

Earle

"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
> was running really rough.
> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
> the chock......problem solved.
> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmm...........
> >
> > I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
> >
> > (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
> > come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> > radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
> >
> > A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> > big bang and stall.....
> >
> > The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> > to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> > the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
> >
> > I don't buy it for a second....
> >
> > You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
> > engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
> > loose on the coil or distributor.
> >
> > Just my $0.02,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Anthony T wrote:
> >
> >> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> >> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> >> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
> >> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
> >>

> > <snip>

>




Earle Horton 03-21-2007 12:45 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.

Earle

"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
> was running really rough.
> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
> the chock......problem solved.
> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmm...........
> >
> > I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
> >
> > (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
> > come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> > radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
> >
> > A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> > big bang and stall.....
> >
> > The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> > to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> > the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
> >
> > I don't buy it for a second....
> >
> > You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
> > engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
> > loose on the coil or distributor.
> >
> > Just my $0.02,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Anthony T wrote:
> >
> >> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> >> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> >> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
> >> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
> >>

> > <snip>

>




Earle Horton 03-21-2007 12:45 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.

Earle

"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
> was running really rough.
> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
> the chock......problem solved.
> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Hmm...........
> >
> > I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
> >
> > (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know nothing
> > come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> > radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
> >
> > A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> > big bang and stall.....
> >
> > The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> > to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> > the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
> >
> > I don't buy it for a second....
> >
> > You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of the
> > engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire knocked
> > loose on the coil or distributor.
> >
> > Just my $0.02,
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Anthony T wrote:
> >
> >> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> >> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> >> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
> >> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
> >>

> > <snip>

>




SnoMan 03-21-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:38:49 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
>gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.



I think I would do a long term pressure test of cooling sytem (a hour
or two) to see if there is a internal leak in it.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-21-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:38:49 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
>gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.



I think I would do a long term pressure test of cooling sytem (a hour
or two) to see if there is a internal leak in it.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 03-21-2007 01:04 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:38:49 -0700, "Anthony T" <bud@remail-it.net>
wrote:

>Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
>getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
>reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the head
>gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.



I think I would do a long term pressure test of cooling sytem (a hour
or two) to see if there is a internal leak in it.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Earle Horton 03-21-2007 07:27 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but I
guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46015e56$0$6690$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Yup, my CJ7 had a 'blown' engine according to 'real' Chrysler mechanics
> when I bought it so I got it really cheap. It had new carb all new tune
> up and still blew tons of oil into the air filter while not idling for
> ----....
>
> It was just a worn out gas tank vent..... (charcoal canister)
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
> >> was running really rough.
> >> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
> >> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
> >> the chock......problem solved.
> >> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> Hmm...........
> >>>
> >>> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
> >>>
> >>> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know

nothing
> >>> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> >>> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
> >>>
> >>> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> >>> big bang and stall.....
> >>>
> >>> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> >>> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> >>> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
> >>>
> >>> I don't buy it for a second....
> >>>
> >>> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of

the
> >>> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire

knocked
> >>> loose on the coil or distributor.
> >>>
> >>> Just my $0.02,
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Anthony T wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> >>>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> >>>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
> >>>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
> >>>>
> >>> <snip>

> >
> >




Earle Horton 03-21-2007 07:27 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but I
guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46015e56$0$6690$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Yup, my CJ7 had a 'blown' engine according to 'real' Chrysler mechanics
> when I bought it so I got it really cheap. It had new carb all new tune
> up and still blew tons of oil into the air filter while not idling for
> ----....
>
> It was just a worn out gas tank vent..... (charcoal canister)
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
> >> was running really rough.
> >> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
> >> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
> >> the chock......problem solved.
> >> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> Hmm...........
> >>>
> >>> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
> >>>
> >>> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know

nothing
> >>> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> >>> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
> >>>
> >>> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> >>> big bang and stall.....
> >>>
> >>> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> >>> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> >>> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
> >>>
> >>> I don't buy it for a second....
> >>>
> >>> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of

the
> >>> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire

knocked
> >>> loose on the coil or distributor.
> >>>
> >>> Just my $0.02,
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Anthony T wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> >>>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> >>>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
> >>>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
> >>>>
> >>> <snip>

> >
> >




Earle Horton 03-21-2007 07:27 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but I
guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:46015e56$0$6690$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> Yup, my CJ7 had a 'blown' engine according to 'real' Chrysler mechanics
> when I bought it so I got it really cheap. It had new carb all new tune
> up and still blew tons of oil into the air filter while not idling for
> ----....
>
> It was just a worn out gas tank vent..... (charcoal canister)
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > Or stupid. ASE mechanics are probably the worst.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:KtCdnfuAEb1NzJzbnZ2dnUVZ_qWvnZ2d@magma.ca...
> >> Sorta like when my first Jeep (88YJ 4.2L)I had
> >> was running really rough.
> >> A mechanic said it needed a new head as a valve was toast.
> >> I had a friend mechanic look at it and he promptly unstuck
> >> the chock......problem solved.
> >> Some of those mechanics can be really dirty sometimes
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>> Hmm...........
> >>>
> >>> I think you are being fed a 'big' pile of BS!
> >>>
> >>> (There is this really old scam that happens when folks that know

nothing
> >>> come in with unknowns like yours. They put a squirt of oil in the
> >>> radiator and show you the 'test' results, then sell you a new engine.)
> >>>
> >>> A slight hydrocarbon trace in a cooling system does not happen from a
> >>> big bang and stall.....
> >>>
> >>> The head would have to be blown open or the headgasket blown right out
> >>> to cause the Bang/stall (it is seriously hard to stall a 350!) and for
> >>> the bang/stall to have caused that first, well.....
> >>>
> >>> I don't buy it for a second....
> >>>
> >>> You just had a bunch of unknown arms and tools all over the rear of

the
> >>> engine around the firewall. I really would be suspecting a wire

knocked
> >>> loose on the coil or distributor.
> >>>
> >>> Just my $0.02,
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>
> >>> Anthony T wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Bad news !!!!! The shop did a block check ($75) and there is exhaust
> >>>> getting into the cooling system. Not much, he's getting a hydrocarbon
> >>>> reading in my radiator/coolant. Mechanic says it's probably not the
> >>>> head gasket, but rather, a cracked head. That's gonna hurt.
> >>>>
> >>> <snip>

> >
> >




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-21-2007 08:09 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
OK, over educated professional student Earle, I know you don't have the
patch, and smog license: http://www.garyzcarz.com/images/ase.jpg ;-)
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
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"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
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> I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but I
> guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?
>
> Earle




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-21-2007 08:09 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
OK, over educated professional student Earle, I know you don't have the
patch, and smog license: http://www.garyzcarz.com/images/ase.jpg ;-)
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:Xu-dncVVp_2uLJzbnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but I
> guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?
>
> Earle




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 03-21-2007 08:09 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
OK, over educated professional student Earle, I know you don't have the
patch, and smog license: http://www.garyzcarz.com/images/ase.jpg ;-)
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:Xu-dncVVp_2uLJzbnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com...
> I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but I
> guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?
>
> Earle




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Earle Horton 03-21-2007 10:28 PM

Re: CJ-5 Heater Fan Upgrade Questions
 
That's what I'm talking about. We don't need no smog check where I live,
because we have clean mountain air. (I think the pollution runs down hill,
most of it.) We don't need no EPA license to work on AC, as long as we get
paid in beer and not money. And we don't need no arm patch, because we
don't have no inferiority complex to worry about.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4601aeeb$0$16294$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> OK, over educated professional student Earle, I know you don't have

the
> patch, and smog license: http://www.garyzcarz.com/images/ase.jpg ;-)
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
> news:Xu-dncVVp_2uLJzbnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@comcast.com...
> > I am a little disappointed that my comment didn't start a flame war, but

I
> > guess it's just common knowledge now, eh?
> >
> > Earle

>
>
>
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