Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

In <10a0v52b0g8uv7f@corp.supernews.com> jdory at gci dotnet wrote:

> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.

Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)

> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.

I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.

> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.

All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.

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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > restoration.

[snip comments]

> Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-

Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
recreation!" It is.

I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > restoration.

[snip comments]

> Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-

Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
recreation!" It is.

I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > restoration.

[snip comments]

> Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-

Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
recreation!" It is.

I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > restoration.

[snip comments]

> Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-

Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
recreation!" It is.

I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

Lee,

I'm sitting here reading your post laughing, nodding and saying "yup, yup
been there"!

In a moment of total madness I hauled a ratty '76 CJ5 out of a chiken coop
two years ago and dragged it home. On the good side, no rust and it had a
tailgate, which is somewhat rare on post 76 CJ5s. On the negative side was
everything else! What a load, four days after making a punch list of
everything it needed I should have pushed it off a local cliff and filed an
insurance claim, but NO! Soon to come was a rear end overhaul, one piece
axles, new engine, clutch, seats, top fenders, grille, windshield frame &
glass, dash panel, suspension, tires, bumpers, front turn signal lights,
marker & tail lights, wiring, gauges, steering box, shaft & wheel, turn
signal switch & lever, starter, battery, alternator, DUI distributor, Weber
carb, all new brakes, exhaust system, roll cage, strip to the metal, body
resto & paint.

Having no one around here to save me from myself, I now have a pristine CJ5
worth maybe 1/3 of what I have in it! It's impossible to call it a
restoration because so many of the original components had been replaced,
butchered, etc. However, it trully is fun, even to just park by the house &
watch people oggle it.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405191147020.1254@panix2.panix .com...
> On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:
>
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > > restoration.
>
> [snip comments]
>
> > Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
>
> Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
> hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
> from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
> the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
> returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
> restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
> sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
> ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
> vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
> cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
> nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
> dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
> happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
> kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
> to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
> it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
> local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
> snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation!" It is.
>
> I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
> decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
> hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
> seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
> of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
> and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
> couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.
>
>

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

Lee,

I'm sitting here reading your post laughing, nodding and saying "yup, yup
been there"!

In a moment of total madness I hauled a ratty '76 CJ5 out of a chiken coop
two years ago and dragged it home. On the good side, no rust and it had a
tailgate, which is somewhat rare on post 76 CJ5s. On the negative side was
everything else! What a load, four days after making a punch list of
everything it needed I should have pushed it off a local cliff and filed an
insurance claim, but NO! Soon to come was a rear end overhaul, one piece
axles, new engine, clutch, seats, top fenders, grille, windshield frame &
glass, dash panel, suspension, tires, bumpers, front turn signal lights,
marker & tail lights, wiring, gauges, steering box, shaft & wheel, turn
signal switch & lever, starter, battery, alternator, DUI distributor, Weber
carb, all new brakes, exhaust system, roll cage, strip to the metal, body
resto & paint.

Having no one around here to save me from myself, I now have a pristine CJ5
worth maybe 1/3 of what I have in it! It's impossible to call it a
restoration because so many of the original components had been replaced,
butchered, etc. However, it trully is fun, even to just park by the house &
watch people oggle it.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405191147020.1254@panix2.panix .com...
> On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:
>
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > > restoration.
>
> [snip comments]
>
> > Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
>
> Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
> hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
> from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
> the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
> returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
> restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
> sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
> ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
> vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
> cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
> nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
> dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
> happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
> kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
> to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
> it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
> local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
> snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation!" It is.
>
> I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
> decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
> hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
> seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
> of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
> and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
> couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.
>
>

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

Lee,

I'm sitting here reading your post laughing, nodding and saying "yup, yup
been there"!

In a moment of total madness I hauled a ratty '76 CJ5 out of a chiken coop
two years ago and dragged it home. On the good side, no rust and it had a
tailgate, which is somewhat rare on post 76 CJ5s. On the negative side was
everything else! What a load, four days after making a punch list of
everything it needed I should have pushed it off a local cliff and filed an
insurance claim, but NO! Soon to come was a rear end overhaul, one piece
axles, new engine, clutch, seats, top fenders, grille, windshield frame &
glass, dash panel, suspension, tires, bumpers, front turn signal lights,
marker & tail lights, wiring, gauges, steering box, shaft & wheel, turn
signal switch & lever, starter, battery, alternator, DUI distributor, Weber
carb, all new brakes, exhaust system, roll cage, strip to the metal, body
resto & paint.

Having no one around here to save me from myself, I now have a pristine CJ5
worth maybe 1/3 of what I have in it! It's impossible to call it a
restoration because so many of the original components had been replaced,
butchered, etc. However, it trully is fun, even to just park by the house &
watch people oggle it.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405191147020.1254@panix2.panix .com...
> On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:
>
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > > restoration.
>
> [snip comments]
>
> > Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
>
> Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
> hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
> from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
> the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
> returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
> restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
> sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
> ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
> vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
> cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
> nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
> dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
> happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
> kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
> to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
> it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
> local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
> snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation!" It is.
>
> I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
> decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
> hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
> seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
> of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
> and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
> couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.
>
>

Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
 

Lee,

I'm sitting here reading your post laughing, nodding and saying "yup, yup
been there"!

In a moment of total madness I hauled a ratty '76 CJ5 out of a chiken coop
two years ago and dragged it home. On the good side, no rust and it had a
tailgate, which is somewhat rare on post 76 CJ5s. On the negative side was
everything else! What a load, four days after making a punch list of
everything it needed I should have pushed it off a local cliff and filed an
insurance claim, but NO! Soon to come was a rear end overhaul, one piece
axles, new engine, clutch, seats, top fenders, grille, windshield frame &
glass, dash panel, suspension, tires, bumpers, front turn signal lights,
marker & tail lights, wiring, gauges, steering box, shaft & wheel, turn
signal switch & lever, starter, battery, alternator, DUI distributor, Weber
carb, all new brakes, exhaust system, roll cage, strip to the metal, body
resto & paint.

Having no one around here to save me from myself, I now have a pristine CJ5
worth maybe 1/3 of what I have in it! It's impossible to call it a
restoration because so many of the original components had been replaced,
butchered, etc. However, it trully is fun, even to just park by the house &
watch people oggle it.

"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
news:Pine.NEB.4.58.0405191147020.1254@panix2.panix .com...
> On Mon, 10 May 2004, it was written:
>
> > Lee Ayrton wrote:
> > > I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> > > restoration.
>
> [snip comments]
>
> > Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
>
> Very happy, thanks. W-O did save me a certain amount of hand work and
> hair-pulling, but my warning about saving the old tub as a template came
> from experience. Even though I had read warnings, I had foolishly dumped
> the remaining fragments of my old tub -- the ones that hadn't already
> returned to the earth they came from. I didn't try to do a faithful
> restoration since the repop tub isn't an _exact_ duplicate of the original
> sheet metal (the Phillipine tubs are less detailed, one fewer set of
> ridges around the gas filler dimple by the door, for instance), but as
> vintage parts came my way I added them for detail, like an OEM optional
> cigar lighter and mounting bracket. My guy at the local alignment shop
> nearly wet himself when I brought the CJ in. He'd worked in a Jeep
> dealership in the late 1970s and when he hopped in had some weird -- but
> happy -- flashbacks. He said that it even _smelled_ new. He was also
> kinda awestruck when he had it up on the lift and saw how much attention
> to detail there is there and was the third person to suggest that I take
> it to some shows. I dunno `bout that but I'm thinking that a couple of
> local cruise nights might be fun. I've got a scrap book of "in progress"
> snapshots that I call "Not a restoration but an amazingly life-like
> recreation!" It is.
>
> I put plates on it last month and drove it for the first time in roughly a
> decade. Great fun, except.... On the second outing it came home on a
> hook. I'd forgotten that I'd never properly timed the ignition and it
> seems that it was running mostly on goodwill and an eagerness to get out
> of the garage. Halfway up the first hill on the way home it bagged out
> and died. When I put a proper light on it it was so far off that I
> couldn't even see the timing mark. Oops. It's running fine now.
>
>