cj-5 '73 new tub
05-11-2004, 03:09 AM
#11
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Del Rawlins wrote:
> >
>
> Where in Alaska? I grew up in Cordova and now live in Anchorage. If
> you end up going with a replacement steel tub you have to plan on
> protecting it really well from the start or else it will just rust out
> again. A coat or two of epoxy primer would be the least amount of
> protection you want to give it, and pay particular attention to the
> underbody. On the truck that I saved from rust I used herculiner on the
> undersides of all the wheel wells in addition to a lot of POR-15 and
I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
>
> There are also aluminum tubs available which I would strongly consider,
> but I would still use a lot of epoxy primer just in case and a layer of
> sealant between any steel and aluminum parts to prevent dissimilar metal
> corrosion.
I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be for
later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I could
consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and epoxy so I
have some experience there.. fiberglass.
>
>
> You will definitely want to tie your roll bar into the frame, even if
> you go with a steel tub. If you can get the mounts tacked to the frame,
> you can then get somebody who IS good with a welder to finish it up for
> you.
Yeah.. never felt too safe as it is.
Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
cheers, JIm
> >
>
> Where in Alaska? I grew up in Cordova and now live in Anchorage. If
> you end up going with a replacement steel tub you have to plan on
> protecting it really well from the start or else it will just rust out
> again. A coat or two of epoxy primer would be the least amount of
> protection you want to give it, and pay particular attention to the
> underbody. On the truck that I saved from rust I used herculiner on the
> undersides of all the wheel wells in addition to a lot of POR-15 and
I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
>
> There are also aluminum tubs available which I would strongly consider,
> but I would still use a lot of epoxy primer just in case and a layer of
> sealant between any steel and aluminum parts to prevent dissimilar metal
> corrosion.
I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be for
later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I could
consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and epoxy so I
have some experience there.. fiberglass.
>
>
> You will definitely want to tie your roll bar into the frame, even if
> you go with a steel tub. If you can get the mounts tacked to the frame,
> you can then get somebody who IS good with a welder to finish it up for
> you.
Yeah.. never felt too safe as it is.
Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
cheers, JIm
05-11-2004, 03:09 AM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Del Rawlins wrote:
> >
>
> Where in Alaska? I grew up in Cordova and now live in Anchorage. If
> you end up going with a replacement steel tub you have to plan on
> protecting it really well from the start or else it will just rust out
> again. A coat or two of epoxy primer would be the least amount of
> protection you want to give it, and pay particular attention to the
> underbody. On the truck that I saved from rust I used herculiner on the
> undersides of all the wheel wells in addition to a lot of POR-15 and
I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
>
> There are also aluminum tubs available which I would strongly consider,
> but I would still use a lot of epoxy primer just in case and a layer of
> sealant between any steel and aluminum parts to prevent dissimilar metal
> corrosion.
I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be for
later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I could
consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and epoxy so I
have some experience there.. fiberglass.
>
>
> You will definitely want to tie your roll bar into the frame, even if
> you go with a steel tub. If you can get the mounts tacked to the frame,
> you can then get somebody who IS good with a welder to finish it up for
> you.
Yeah.. never felt too safe as it is.
Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
cheers, JIm
> >
>
> Where in Alaska? I grew up in Cordova and now live in Anchorage. If
> you end up going with a replacement steel tub you have to plan on
> protecting it really well from the start or else it will just rust out
> again. A coat or two of epoxy primer would be the least amount of
> protection you want to give it, and pay particular attention to the
> underbody. On the truck that I saved from rust I used herculiner on the
> undersides of all the wheel wells in addition to a lot of POR-15 and
I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
>
> There are also aluminum tubs available which I would strongly consider,
> but I would still use a lot of epoxy primer just in case and a layer of
> sealant between any steel and aluminum parts to prevent dissimilar metal
> corrosion.
I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be for
later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I could
consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and epoxy so I
have some experience there.. fiberglass.
>
>
> You will definitely want to tie your roll bar into the frame, even if
> you go with a steel tub. If you can get the mounts tacked to the frame,
> you can then get somebody who IS good with a welder to finish it up for
> you.
Yeah.. never felt too safe as it is.
Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
cheers, JIm
05-11-2004, 03:09 AM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Del Rawlins wrote:
> >
>
> Where in Alaska? I grew up in Cordova and now live in Anchorage. If
> you end up going with a replacement steel tub you have to plan on
> protecting it really well from the start or else it will just rust out
> again. A coat or two of epoxy primer would be the least amount of
> protection you want to give it, and pay particular attention to the
> underbody. On the truck that I saved from rust I used herculiner on the
> undersides of all the wheel wells in addition to a lot of POR-15 and
I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
>
> There are also aluminum tubs available which I would strongly consider,
> but I would still use a lot of epoxy primer just in case and a layer of
> sealant between any steel and aluminum parts to prevent dissimilar metal
> corrosion.
I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be for
later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I could
consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and epoxy so I
have some experience there.. fiberglass.
>
>
> You will definitely want to tie your roll bar into the frame, even if
> you go with a steel tub. If you can get the mounts tacked to the frame,
> you can then get somebody who IS good with a welder to finish it up for
> you.
Yeah.. never felt too safe as it is.
Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
cheers, JIm
> >
>
> Where in Alaska? I grew up in Cordova and now live in Anchorage. If
> you end up going with a replacement steel tub you have to plan on
> protecting it really well from the start or else it will just rust out
> again. A coat or two of epoxy primer would be the least amount of
> protection you want to give it, and pay particular attention to the
> underbody. On the truck that I saved from rust I used herculiner on the
> undersides of all the wheel wells in addition to a lot of POR-15 and
I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
>
> There are also aluminum tubs available which I would strongly consider,
> but I would still use a lot of epoxy primer just in case and a layer of
> sealant between any steel and aluminum parts to prevent dissimilar metal
> corrosion.
I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be for
later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I could
consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and epoxy so I
have some experience there.. fiberglass.
>
>
> You will definitely want to tie your roll bar into the frame, even if
> you go with a steel tub. If you can get the mounts tacked to the frame,
> you can then get somebody who IS good with a welder to finish it up for
> you.
Yeah.. never felt too safe as it is.
Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
cheers, JIm
05-11-2004, 03:11 AM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
05-11-2004, 03:11 AM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
05-11-2004, 03:11 AM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
05-11-2004, 03:11 AM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
> I recently put a steel "Replitub" from Wyllys-Overland on my `79 CJ-5
> restoration.
>
> You are correct about the steel quality -- it is neither as thick nor as
> hard as the OEM metal used and it will rust at the drop of a hat if
> exposed to moisture. On the other hand, fiberglass will shatter on
> impact, so you pays your money and takes yer chances, rustable or
> breakable. I don't know if it is still a problem but older glass tubs had
> issues with the thickness of the firewall requiring modification to brake
> and clutch linkages. Whatever your choice, keep your old tub as a
> template until you are sure that you've drilled all the holes you need --
> for instance, I spent a lot of time scratching my head trying to work out
> just where the mounting brackets for my top bows should be.
>
> Good luck!
Thanks Lee! Are you happy with your new tub?-
cheers, Jim
05-11-2004, 03:45 PM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
In <10a0v52b0g8uv7f@corp.supernews.com> jdory at gci dotnet wrote:
> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)
> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.
I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.
> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.
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> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)
> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.
I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.
> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.
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05-11-2004, 03:45 PM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
In <10a0v52b0g8uv7f@corp.supernews.com> jdory at gci dotnet wrote:
> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)
> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.
I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.
> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.
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> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)
> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.
I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.
> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.
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05-11-2004, 03:45 PM
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Re: cj-5 '73 new tub
In <10a0v52b0g8uv7f@corp.supernews.com> jdory at gci dotnet wrote:
> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)
> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.
I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.
> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.
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> I'm in Nome. Have to fly or barge whatever I get here.. kinda sucks.
Yeah, that's the way Cordova is. Bad for shipping large items in,
unless of course you are in the shipping business as I was. 8^)
> I took a look at some aluminum tubs on the net and they seemed to be
> for later models.. '76 and up. They're pricey, but if worth it I
> could consider them. I did build a boat using wood, fiberglass, and
> epoxy so I have some experience there.. fiberglass.
I forgot about that. They changed the tubs in '76 so you are in the
same boat as I am with my '70 CJ-5, if I ever get around to doing
anything with it. IIRC the front fenders and hood are the same from '72
onward. I have built a couple of small boats using those same materials.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you buy a glass tub it will most
likely be made using polyester resin rather than epoxy so you can expect
the gelcoat to develop fine cracks as it ages, but you probably knew
that already.
> Where do you get your stuff? I also need a supertop, but hate the
> 4wd.com shipping prices to Alaska.
All of the big/heavy parts on my Jeep were shipped up via barge when I
was in Cordova, but I got a really good deal on shipping through work at
the time so I can't be of much help to you. Getting big stuff up from
outside is now a major hassle for me, as it is for most other Alaskans.
I bought a sheet metal brake last fall and then the person who was going
to bring it up in his trailer had to change his plans, so I'm still
waiting to get it up here.
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