I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything
I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most
of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
--
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Ya know Bill........
>
> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
> service for all young people.
>
> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should
> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking
> liberal big city boy watching my back.
>
> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back
> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
> facilities staffed.
>
> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>
> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send
> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
>
> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the
> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>
> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider
> commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
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> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4339EC19.C26C66E@***.net...
> > If only we could ship them over there, just long enough to have
> > their heads chopped off.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance shouldn't
> >> be getting federal funding.
> >>
> >> These asshats have the audacity to **** on the very memory of folks
> >> that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't
> >> do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for
> >> an education in civil rights?
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW

 

I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything
I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most
of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
--
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Ya know Bill........
>
> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
> service for all young people.
>
> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should
> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking
> liberal big city boy watching my back.
>
> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back
> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
> facilities staffed.
>
> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>
> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send
> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
>
> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the
> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>
> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider
> commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4339EC19.C26C66E@***.net...
> > If only we could ship them over there, just long enough to have
> > their heads chopped off.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance shouldn't
> >> be getting federal funding.
> >>
> >> These asshats have the audacity to **** on the very memory of folks
> >> that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't
> >> do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for
> >> an education in civil rights?
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW

 

I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything
I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most
of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
--
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Billy Ray wrote:
>
> Ya know Bill........
>
> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
> service for all young people.
>
> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should
> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking
> liberal big city boy watching my back.
>
> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back
> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
> facilities staffed.
>
> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>
> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send
> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
>
> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the
> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>
> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider
> commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4339EC19.C26C66E@***.net...
> > If only we could ship them over there, just long enough to have
> > their heads chopped off.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance shouldn't
> >> be getting federal funding.
> >>
> >> These asshats have the audacity to **** on the very memory of folks
> >> that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't
> >> do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for
> >> an education in civil rights?
> >>
> >> --
> >> DougW

 

You could probably keep most of the military as a volunteer professional
unit.

If necessary you could use draftees for the non mission critical MOS. This
would also keep the locals used as menial labor out of camp and unable to
pass along intelligence to the enemy.

By sending everyone to boot camp would teach people the value and necessity
of cooperation, unit cohesion and perhaps the principals of duty and honor.

When Bobby was in boot camp half their unit was girls. He said a number of
the girls (and a few of the boys) were always whining about something or
other. But as you recall when ANYONE screws up EVERYONE is punished. This
is intended to teach you to cooperate as a unit and put the unit's well
being above your own pettiness.

I see this a lot at work where younger people seem to have never been taught
to cooperate by their parents, teachers, or a strict DI (and his house
mouse).

The way I was raised (and I assume you) was that you finished up your job
before you quit for the day and you did not leave a mess for the next guy.
If you had to stay over a couple minutes (unpaid) well... that was life.
Nowadays the younger folk stop taking new work 15-20 minutes early to be
sure they can saunter out the door exactly on time.

--
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything
> I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most
> of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
> --
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Ya know Bill........
>>
>> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
>> service for all young people.
>>
>> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all
>> should
>> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope
>> smoking
>> liberal big city boy watching my back.
>>
>> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC
>> back
>> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
>> facilities staffed.
>>
>> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
>> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>>
>> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read.
>> Send
>> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
>>
>> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare
>> the
>> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>>
>> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
>> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we
>> consider
>> commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4339EC19.C26C66E@***.net...
>> > If only we could ship them over there, just long enough to have
>> > their heads chopped off.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > DougW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance
>> >> shouldn't
>> >> be getting federal funding.
>> >>
>> >> These asshats have the audacity to **** on the very memory of folks
>> >> that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't
>> >> do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for
>> >> an education in civil rights?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> DougW

 

You could probably keep most of the military as a volunteer professional
unit.

If necessary you could use draftees for the non mission critical MOS. This
would also keep the locals used as menial labor out of camp and unable to
pass along intelligence to the enemy.

By sending everyone to boot camp would teach people the value and necessity
of cooperation, unit cohesion and perhaps the principals of duty and honor.

When Bobby was in boot camp half their unit was girls. He said a number of
the girls (and a few of the boys) were always whining about something or
other. But as you recall when ANYONE screws up EVERYONE is punished. This
is intended to teach you to cooperate as a unit and put the unit's well
being above your own pettiness.

I see this a lot at work where younger people seem to have never been taught
to cooperate by their parents, teachers, or a strict DI (and his house
mouse).

The way I was raised (and I assume you) was that you finished up your job
before you quit for the day and you did not leave a mess for the next guy.
If you had to stay over a couple minutes (unpaid) well... that was life.
Nowadays the younger folk stop taking new work 15-20 minutes early to be
sure they can saunter out the door exactly on time.

--
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A241D.C9C6D411@***.net...
> I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything
> I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most
> of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
> --
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Ya know Bill........
>>
>> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
>> service for all young people.
>>
>> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all
>> should
>> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope
>> smoking
>> liberal big city boy watching my back.
>>
>> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC
>> back
>> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
>> facilities staffed.
>>
>> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
>> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>>
>> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read.
>> Send
>> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
>>
>> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare
>> the
>> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>>
>> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
>> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we
>> consider
>> commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4339EC19.C26C66E@***.net...
>> > If only we could ship them over there, just long enough to have
>> > their heads chopped off.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > DougW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance
>> >> shouldn't
>> >> be getting federal funding.
>> >>
>> >> These asshats have the audacity to **** on the very memory of folks
>> >> that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't
>> >> do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for
>> >> an education in civil rights?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> DougW

 

You could probably keep most of the military as a volunteer professional
unit.

If necessary you could use draftees for the non mission critical MOS. This
would also keep the locals used as menial labor out of camp and unable to
pass along intelligence to the enemy.

By sending everyone to boot camp would teach people the value and necessity
of cooperation, unit cohesion and perhaps the principals of duty and honor.

When Bobby was in boot camp half their unit was girls. He said a number of
the girls (and a few of the boys) were always whining about something or
other. But as you recall when ANYONE screws up EVERYONE is punished. This
is intended to teach you to cooperate as a unit and put the unit's well
being above your own pettiness.

I see this a lot at work where younger people seem to have never been taught
to cooperate by their parents, teachers, or a strict DI (and his house
mouse).

The way I was raised (and I assume you) was that you finished up your job
before you quit for the day and you did not leave a mess for the next guy.
If you had to stay over a couple minutes (unpaid) well... that was life.
Nowadays the younger folk stop taking new work 15-20 minutes early to be
sure they can saunter out the door exactly on time.

--
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"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:433A241D.C9C6D411@***.net...
> I want the draft, too, but W has worn against it. And everything
> I've hear say the troops don't want it either. Geez, I know I spent most
> of my tour drunk, bad mouthing lifers, but I thought I did my job well.
> --
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> Ya know Bill........
>>
>> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
>> service for all young people.
>>
>> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all
>> should
>> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope
>> smoking
>> liberal big city boy watching my back.
>>
>> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC
>> back
>> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
>> facilities staffed.
>>
>> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
>> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>>
>> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read.
>> Send
>> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.
>>
>> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare
>> the
>> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>>
>> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
>> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we
>> consider
>> commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
>> .
>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:4339EC19.C26C66E@***.net...
>> > If only we could ship them over there, just long enough to have
>> > their heads chopped off.
>> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>> >
>> > DougW wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I say if the schools that don't have the Pledge of Allegiance
>> >> shouldn't
>> >> be getting federal funding.
>> >>
>> >> These asshats have the audacity to **** on the very memory of folks
>> >> that gave their lives to protect all our rights. I hear they don't
>> >> do the Pledge over in Iran, how about sending them over there for
>> >> an education in civil rights?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> DougW

 

Billy Ray proclaimed:

> Ya know Bill........
>
> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
> service for all young people.

If it were mandatory, they could even plan for it. I know more than
a few college counsellors that would prefer to have kids at least a
coupla years more grown up before being inflicted on a campus. My
personal opinion is that if you ain't willing to give a coupla years
to your country, just possibly you don't deserve that country.
>
> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should
> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking
> liberal big city boy watching my back.

To me depends on how good an aim he is when stoned outta his mind. I
dunno that it all would be military. Some of the programs like Peace
Corpse, Civilian Conservation Corpse, etc. could be worthwhile places
to have young kids serve their countries for a coupla years. Stuff
like building projects in national parks, cleaning those parks, new
trails in the parks would be good use. Or working with the Corps of
Engineers building up some of the anti-flood measures the greenies
have let detiorate for so many decades. You serve your country for
two years with no choice, or three years with choice. In return, you
do get a pay check, even some training that might be valuable, plus
the most important lesson, which is learning to let go of mommie and
daddie's bank accounts and stand on your own two feet. No rich boy
exclusions period. Serve. Period.

I suspect the programs would pay for themselves overnight, which is
why I also suspect they haven't a prayer of being enacted.
>
> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back
> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
> facilities staffed.

Oh hell yes. Some of the more famous features of our national parks
were just CCC projects at one time.
>
> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>
> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send
> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.

Send kids to places they ain't been and let them learn to get along
with folks they ain't met. Highly educational experience.
>
> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the
> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)

Or send San Francisco kids to the deep south as hair dressers to get
rid of those dreaded beehive hairdos.


>
> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider
> commonplace, the things any householder should know.

Still think the weaning from mommy and daddy would be the most useful
lessons learned.

 

Billy Ray proclaimed:

> Ya know Bill........
>
> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
> service for all young people.

If it were mandatory, they could even plan for it. I know more than
a few college counsellors that would prefer to have kids at least a
coupla years more grown up before being inflicted on a campus. My
personal opinion is that if you ain't willing to give a coupla years
to your country, just possibly you don't deserve that country.
>
> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should
> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking
> liberal big city boy watching my back.

To me depends on how good an aim he is when stoned outta his mind. I
dunno that it all would be military. Some of the programs like Peace
Corpse, Civilian Conservation Corpse, etc. could be worthwhile places
to have young kids serve their countries for a coupla years. Stuff
like building projects in national parks, cleaning those parks, new
trails in the parks would be good use. Or working with the Corps of
Engineers building up some of the anti-flood measures the greenies
have let detiorate for so many decades. You serve your country for
two years with no choice, or three years with choice. In return, you
do get a pay check, even some training that might be valuable, plus
the most important lesson, which is learning to let go of mommie and
daddie's bank accounts and stand on your own two feet. No rich boy
exclusions period. Serve. Period.

I suspect the programs would pay for themselves overnight, which is
why I also suspect they haven't a prayer of being enacted.
>
> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back
> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
> facilities staffed.

Oh hell yes. Some of the more famous features of our national parks
were just CCC projects at one time.
>
> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>
> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send
> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.

Send kids to places they ain't been and let them learn to get along
with folks they ain't met. Highly educational experience.
>
> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the
> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)

Or send San Francisco kids to the deep south as hair dressers to get
rid of those dreaded beehive hairdos.


>
> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider
> commonplace, the things any householder should know.

Still think the weaning from mommy and daddy would be the most useful
lessons learned.

 

Billy Ray proclaimed:

> Ya know Bill........
>
> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
> service for all young people.

If it were mandatory, they could even plan for it. I know more than
a few college counsellors that would prefer to have kids at least a
coupla years more grown up before being inflicted on a campus. My
personal opinion is that if you ain't willing to give a coupla years
to your country, just possibly you don't deserve that country.
>
> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all should
> go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some dope smoking
> liberal big city boy watching my back.

To me depends on how good an aim he is when stoned outta his mind. I
dunno that it all would be military. Some of the programs like Peace
Corpse, Civilian Conservation Corpse, etc. could be worthwhile places
to have young kids serve their countries for a coupla years. Stuff
like building projects in national parks, cleaning those parks, new
trails in the parks would be good use. Or working with the Corps of
Engineers building up some of the anti-flood measures the greenies
have let detiorate for so many decades. You serve your country for
two years with no choice, or three years with choice. In return, you
do get a pay check, even some training that might be valuable, plus
the most important lesson, which is learning to let go of mommie and
daddie's bank accounts and stand on your own two feet. No rich boy
exclusions period. Serve. Period.

I suspect the programs would pay for themselves overnight, which is
why I also suspect they haven't a prayer of being enacted.
>
> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC back
> in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired, public
> facilities staffed.

Oh hell yes. Some of the more famous features of our national parks
were just CCC projects at one time.
>
> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>
> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read. Send
> ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West Texas.

Send kids to places they ain't been and let them learn to get along
with folks they ain't met. Highly educational experience.
>
> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare the
> heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)

Or send San Francisco kids to the deep south as hair dressers to get
rid of those dreaded beehive hairdos.


>
> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we consider
> commonplace, the things any householder should know.

Still think the weaning from mommy and daddy would be the most useful
lessons learned.

 

Funny you mention it, Germany has such a program for its citizens, as do
many other countries, I imagine. Not a particularly bad idea.

Problem is, in this country there is such a sense of entitlement, "I got
mine," that something like this would be quite unpopular. And believe me,
there would be a way for the "rich boys" to loophole around it. God forbid,
the children of Congress members and Big Business lift a finger to help
their country.

"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Billy Ray proclaimed:
>
>> Ya know Bill........
>>
>> Perhaps it is well overdue to institute a period of required national
>> service for all young people.
>
> If it were mandatory, they could even plan for it. I know more than
> a few college counsellors that would prefer to have kids at least a
> coupla years more grown up before being inflicted on a campus. My
> personal opinion is that if you ain't willing to give a coupla years
> to your country, just possibly you don't deserve that country.
>>
>> Not that everyone needs to go into the military although perhaps all
>> should go through a boot camp experience. I certainly don't want some
>> dope smoking liberal big city boy watching my back.
>
> To me depends on how good an aim he is when stoned outta his mind. I
> dunno that it all would be military. Some of the programs like Peace
> Corpse, Civilian Conservation Corpse, etc. could be worthwhile places
> to have young kids serve their countries for a coupla years. Stuff
> like building projects in national parks, cleaning those parks, new
> trails in the parks would be good use. Or working with the Corps of
> Engineers building up some of the anti-flood measures the greenies
> have let detiorate for so many decades. You serve your country for
> two years with no choice, or three years with choice. In return, you
> do get a pay check, even some training that might be valuable, plus
> the most important lesson, which is learning to let go of mommie and
> daddie's bank accounts and stand on your own two feet. No rich boy
> exclusions period. Serve. Period.
>
> I suspect the programs would pay for themselves overnight, which is
> why I also suspect they haven't a prayer of being enacted.
>>
>> There are plenty of things that need done like in the model of the CCC
>> back in the 30's. Streets need to be cleaned, infrastructure repaired,
>> public facilities staffed.
>
> Oh hell yes. Some of the more famous features of our national parks
> were just CCC projects at one time.
>>
>> I think if everyone was forced (good choice of words) to actually see the
>> world as it really is then we would not have problems such as we have.
>>
>> Send the California liberals to teach kids in Appalachia how to read.
>> Send ghetto kids from De-troit to build water and sewer lines in West
>> Texas.
>
> Send kids to places they ain't been and let them learn to get along
> with folks they ain't met. Highly educational experience.
>>
>> Send nice mid-western kids to LA or San Francisco or New Your and scare
>> the heck of them (we call that shock-probation in Ohio)
>
> Or send San Francisco kids to the deep south as hair dressers to get
> rid of those dreaded beehive hairdos.
>
>
>>
>> Everyone could learn useful skills and if you have the ability perhaps a
>> trade. Everyone should know how to do the do-it-yourself tasks we
>> consider commonplace, the things any householder should know.
>
> Still think the weaning from mommy and daddy would be the most useful
> lessons learned.