:-)
Good one, Paul

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

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John

Refinish King wrote:
> Weren't you kidnapped and killed over 50 years ago?
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "The Lindbergh Baby" <johngrabowski1@die.spammersearthlink.net> wrote in
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>
>>Geoff wrote:
>>
>>>Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
>>
> Cadillac
>
>>>SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>>
>>No, I know just what to call it. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>John
>>
>>--
>>To reply, remove "die.spammers" from address
>>
>>
>>Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
>>
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John

Refinish King wrote:
> Weren't you kidnapped and killed over 50 years ago?
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "The Lindbergh Baby" <johngrabowski1@die.spammersearthlink.net> wrote in
> message news:40C9DC6B.9080702@die.spammersearthlink.net...
>
>>Geoff wrote:
>>
>>>Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
>>
> Cadillac
>
>>>SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>>
>>No, I know just what to call it. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>John
>>
>>--
>>To reply, remove "die.spammers" from address
>>
>>
>>Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
>>
>
>
>
>



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John

Refinish King wrote:
> Weren't you kidnapped and killed over 50 years ago?
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "The Lindbergh Baby" <johngrabowski1@die.spammersearthlink.net> wrote in
> message news:40C9DC6B.9080702@die.spammersearthlink.net...
>
>>Geoff wrote:
>>
>>>Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
>>
> Cadillac
>
>>>SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>>
>>No, I know just what to call it. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>John
>>
>>--
>>To reply, remove "die.spammers" from address
>>
>>
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>>
>
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>
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John

Refinish King wrote:
> Weren't you kidnapped and killed over 50 years ago?
>
> Refinish King
>
>
> "The Lindbergh Baby" <johngrabowski1@die.spammersearthlink.net> wrote in
> message news:40C9DC6B.9080702@die.spammersearthlink.net...
>
>>Geoff wrote:
>>
>>>Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
>>
> Cadillac
>
>>>SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>>
>>No, I know just what to call it. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>John
>>
>>--
>>To reply, remove "die.spammers" from address
>>
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My father has a vehicle like these many years ago. It was called a
station wagon.

"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40c9b263$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
Cadillac
> SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>
> These vehicles combine some of the qualities of SUVs with those of
cars and
> minivans, yet they're really none of these. Chevy terms the
Equinox an
> SUV. Chrysler has variously deemed the Pacifica a 'segment buster',
or a
> "luxury car, SUV and minivan all in one," while Car & Driver
recently
> decided for comparison purposes that it was an SUV. Cadillac is
calling the
> SRX a 'Performance SUV', whatever that means.
>
> Most folks driving one of these vehicles bristle at the term
'station
> wagon'. Apparently that term receives much of the same negative
cachet
> normally reserved for 'minivan'. This is probably a fair assesment.
All
> station wagons are cars. These are really not cars. Most are far
too tall
> to be compared alongside, say, a Dodge Intrepid or a Chevy Malibu.
And
> station wagons are derived from sedans, while these vehicles clearly
stand
> alone in their manufacturer's product lineups.
>
> A comparison of these vehicles with SUVs leaves them decidedly
lacking in
> some respects. Although they typically are offered with AWD, they
don't
> offer the low range or ground clearance required for any serious
off-road
> duty. Many SUVs are truck-based, capable of towing substantial
loads of
> 5,000lbs or more. Although towing capacity is certainly available
with
> these vehicles, a serious camper or boater would probably look
elsewhere.
>
> Minivans have been marketed as SUV lookalikes by GM for some years
now,
> beginning with the Pontiac Montana. This concept is about to be
extended
> across their line with the forthcoming models in 2005. Yet minivans
> typically have far more interior space than a Pacifica or SRX does.
Most,
> if not all minivans are equipped with sliding doors, while none of
these
> vehicles are.
>
> The most logical conclusion is that a new segment has truly been
born. For
> the purposes of discussion, these should be termed Car-like Utility
> Vehicles, or CUVs* for short.
>
> In order to clarify the distinction between CUVs and other vehicle
segments,
> I offer the following questions and answers:
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not an SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort, interior space
and
> touring utility over off-road ability and towing capacity
> o When it is only offered with AWD or 2WD, as opposed to a
traditional
> 4-wheel-drive system with low range
> o When its styling suggests a tall car or high-sided station
wagon,
> rather than a highly-suspended station wagon
>
> When is a vehicle a 'car-based' SUV and not a CUV?
> o When its interior space more closely resembles that of a
compact car,
> rather than a large car (CUVs emphasize passenger comfort.)
> o When its styling suggests a small, highly-suspended station
wagon
> rather than a high-sided wagon or tall car
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not a station wagon?
> o When it shares no sheetmetal with a direct sedan counterpart
offered
> elsewhere in the manufacturer's lineup
> o When its vertical dimension is larger than any 'car' offered
by the
> same manufacturer
>
> When is a vehicle a station wagon and not a CUV or SUV?
> o When it shares a large proportion of its sheetmetal and/or
exterior
> styling with a sedan or coupe in the same manufacturer's lineup
> o When its height and width are similar to those of a
traditional car
>
> When is a vehicle a minivan and not a CUV?
> o When it offers one or more sliding doors
> o When it is primarily sold as a front wheel drive vehicle.
> o When its interior capacity enables the user to carry 4-foot
wide
> sheet goods laying flat in the cargo area
>
> When is a vehicle a car, rather than a CUV or SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort and space in a
> reasonably compact package
> o When its design only lends itself to occasional use for cargo
hauling
> o When its styling suggests use for commuting, touring, or
racing
>
> *It is noted that the name 'CUV' is tentatively to be applied to a
> forthcoming product in 2006 by DaimlerChrysler's Smart brand. Their
> definition of the term is 'Crossover Utility Vehicle', which I
maintain is
> very similar to Car-like Utility Vehicle. Regardless, one
manufacturer
> deciding to give a product a name that is more rightly descriptive
of a
> segment than a particular vehicle does not invalidate the use of the
term to
> describe the segment as a whole.
>
> Copyright (C) 2004 by Geoff Gariepy
>
>
>
>

 

My father has a vehicle like these many years ago. It was called a
station wagon.

"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40c9b263$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
Cadillac
> SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>
> These vehicles combine some of the qualities of SUVs with those of
cars and
> minivans, yet they're really none of these. Chevy terms the
Equinox an
> SUV. Chrysler has variously deemed the Pacifica a 'segment buster',
or a
> "luxury car, SUV and minivan all in one," while Car & Driver
recently
> decided for comparison purposes that it was an SUV. Cadillac is
calling the
> SRX a 'Performance SUV', whatever that means.
>
> Most folks driving one of these vehicles bristle at the term
'station
> wagon'. Apparently that term receives much of the same negative
cachet
> normally reserved for 'minivan'. This is probably a fair assesment.
All
> station wagons are cars. These are really not cars. Most are far
too tall
> to be compared alongside, say, a Dodge Intrepid or a Chevy Malibu.
And
> station wagons are derived from sedans, while these vehicles clearly
stand
> alone in their manufacturer's product lineups.
>
> A comparison of these vehicles with SUVs leaves them decidedly
lacking in
> some respects. Although they typically are offered with AWD, they
don't
> offer the low range or ground clearance required for any serious
off-road
> duty. Many SUVs are truck-based, capable of towing substantial
loads of
> 5,000lbs or more. Although towing capacity is certainly available
with
> these vehicles, a serious camper or boater would probably look
elsewhere.
>
> Minivans have been marketed as SUV lookalikes by GM for some years
now,
> beginning with the Pontiac Montana. This concept is about to be
extended
> across their line with the forthcoming models in 2005. Yet minivans
> typically have far more interior space than a Pacifica or SRX does.
Most,
> if not all minivans are equipped with sliding doors, while none of
these
> vehicles are.
>
> The most logical conclusion is that a new segment has truly been
born. For
> the purposes of discussion, these should be termed Car-like Utility
> Vehicles, or CUVs* for short.
>
> In order to clarify the distinction between CUVs and other vehicle
segments,
> I offer the following questions and answers:
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not an SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort, interior space
and
> touring utility over off-road ability and towing capacity
> o When it is only offered with AWD or 2WD, as opposed to a
traditional
> 4-wheel-drive system with low range
> o When its styling suggests a tall car or high-sided station
wagon,
> rather than a highly-suspended station wagon
>
> When is a vehicle a 'car-based' SUV and not a CUV?
> o When its interior space more closely resembles that of a
compact car,
> rather than a large car (CUVs emphasize passenger comfort.)
> o When its styling suggests a small, highly-suspended station
wagon
> rather than a high-sided wagon or tall car
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not a station wagon?
> o When it shares no sheetmetal with a direct sedan counterpart
offered
> elsewhere in the manufacturer's lineup
> o When its vertical dimension is larger than any 'car' offered
by the
> same manufacturer
>
> When is a vehicle a station wagon and not a CUV or SUV?
> o When it shares a large proportion of its sheetmetal and/or
exterior
> styling with a sedan or coupe in the same manufacturer's lineup
> o When its height and width are similar to those of a
traditional car
>
> When is a vehicle a minivan and not a CUV?
> o When it offers one or more sliding doors
> o When it is primarily sold as a front wheel drive vehicle.
> o When its interior capacity enables the user to carry 4-foot
wide
> sheet goods laying flat in the cargo area
>
> When is a vehicle a car, rather than a CUV or SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort and space in a
> reasonably compact package
> o When its design only lends itself to occasional use for cargo
hauling
> o When its styling suggests use for commuting, touring, or
racing
>
> *It is noted that the name 'CUV' is tentatively to be applied to a
> forthcoming product in 2006 by DaimlerChrysler's Smart brand. Their
> definition of the term is 'Crossover Utility Vehicle', which I
maintain is
> very similar to Car-like Utility Vehicle. Regardless, one
manufacturer
> deciding to give a product a name that is more rightly descriptive
of a
> segment than a particular vehicle does not invalidate the use of the
term to
> describe the segment as a whole.
>
> Copyright (C) 2004 by Geoff Gariepy
>
>
>
>

 

My father has a vehicle like these many years ago. It was called a
station wagon.

"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40c9b263$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
Cadillac
> SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>
> These vehicles combine some of the qualities of SUVs with those of
cars and
> minivans, yet they're really none of these. Chevy terms the
Equinox an
> SUV. Chrysler has variously deemed the Pacifica a 'segment buster',
or a
> "luxury car, SUV and minivan all in one," while Car & Driver
recently
> decided for comparison purposes that it was an SUV. Cadillac is
calling the
> SRX a 'Performance SUV', whatever that means.
>
> Most folks driving one of these vehicles bristle at the term
'station
> wagon'. Apparently that term receives much of the same negative
cachet
> normally reserved for 'minivan'. This is probably a fair assesment.
All
> station wagons are cars. These are really not cars. Most are far
too tall
> to be compared alongside, say, a Dodge Intrepid or a Chevy Malibu.
And
> station wagons are derived from sedans, while these vehicles clearly
stand
> alone in their manufacturer's product lineups.
>
> A comparison of these vehicles with SUVs leaves them decidedly
lacking in
> some respects. Although they typically are offered with AWD, they
don't
> offer the low range or ground clearance required for any serious
off-road
> duty. Many SUVs are truck-based, capable of towing substantial
loads of
> 5,000lbs or more. Although towing capacity is certainly available
with
> these vehicles, a serious camper or boater would probably look
elsewhere.
>
> Minivans have been marketed as SUV lookalikes by GM for some years
now,
> beginning with the Pontiac Montana. This concept is about to be
extended
> across their line with the forthcoming models in 2005. Yet minivans
> typically have far more interior space than a Pacifica or SRX does.
Most,
> if not all minivans are equipped with sliding doors, while none of
these
> vehicles are.
>
> The most logical conclusion is that a new segment has truly been
born. For
> the purposes of discussion, these should be termed Car-like Utility
> Vehicles, or CUVs* for short.
>
> In order to clarify the distinction between CUVs and other vehicle
segments,
> I offer the following questions and answers:
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not an SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort, interior space
and
> touring utility over off-road ability and towing capacity
> o When it is only offered with AWD or 2WD, as opposed to a
traditional
> 4-wheel-drive system with low range
> o When its styling suggests a tall car or high-sided station
wagon,
> rather than a highly-suspended station wagon
>
> When is a vehicle a 'car-based' SUV and not a CUV?
> o When its interior space more closely resembles that of a
compact car,
> rather than a large car (CUVs emphasize passenger comfort.)
> o When its styling suggests a small, highly-suspended station
wagon
> rather than a high-sided wagon or tall car
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not a station wagon?
> o When it shares no sheetmetal with a direct sedan counterpart
offered
> elsewhere in the manufacturer's lineup
> o When its vertical dimension is larger than any 'car' offered
by the
> same manufacturer
>
> When is a vehicle a station wagon and not a CUV or SUV?
> o When it shares a large proportion of its sheetmetal and/or
exterior
> styling with a sedan or coupe in the same manufacturer's lineup
> o When its height and width are similar to those of a
traditional car
>
> When is a vehicle a minivan and not a CUV?
> o When it offers one or more sliding doors
> o When it is primarily sold as a front wheel drive vehicle.
> o When its interior capacity enables the user to carry 4-foot
wide
> sheet goods laying flat in the cargo area
>
> When is a vehicle a car, rather than a CUV or SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort and space in a
> reasonably compact package
> o When its design only lends itself to occasional use for cargo
hauling
> o When its styling suggests use for commuting, touring, or
racing
>
> *It is noted that the name 'CUV' is tentatively to be applied to a
> forthcoming product in 2006 by DaimlerChrysler's Smart brand. Their
> definition of the term is 'Crossover Utility Vehicle', which I
maintain is
> very similar to Car-like Utility Vehicle. Regardless, one
manufacturer
> deciding to give a product a name that is more rightly descriptive
of a
> segment than a particular vehicle does not invalidate the use of the
term to
> describe the segment as a whole.
>
> Copyright (C) 2004 by Geoff Gariepy
>
>
>
>

 

My father has a vehicle like these many years ago. It was called a
station wagon.

"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:40c9b263$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com...
> Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
Cadillac
> SRX and wondered just what to call it?
>
> These vehicles combine some of the qualities of SUVs with those of
cars and
> minivans, yet they're really none of these. Chevy terms the
Equinox an
> SUV. Chrysler has variously deemed the Pacifica a 'segment buster',
or a
> "luxury car, SUV and minivan all in one," while Car & Driver
recently
> decided for comparison purposes that it was an SUV. Cadillac is
calling the
> SRX a 'Performance SUV', whatever that means.
>
> Most folks driving one of these vehicles bristle at the term
'station
> wagon'. Apparently that term receives much of the same negative
cachet
> normally reserved for 'minivan'. This is probably a fair assesment.
All
> station wagons are cars. These are really not cars. Most are far
too tall
> to be compared alongside, say, a Dodge Intrepid or a Chevy Malibu.
And
> station wagons are derived from sedans, while these vehicles clearly
stand
> alone in their manufacturer's product lineups.
>
> A comparison of these vehicles with SUVs leaves them decidedly
lacking in
> some respects. Although they typically are offered with AWD, they
don't
> offer the low range or ground clearance required for any serious
off-road
> duty. Many SUVs are truck-based, capable of towing substantial
loads of
> 5,000lbs or more. Although towing capacity is certainly available
with
> these vehicles, a serious camper or boater would probably look
elsewhere.
>
> Minivans have been marketed as SUV lookalikes by GM for some years
now,
> beginning with the Pontiac Montana. This concept is about to be
extended
> across their line with the forthcoming models in 2005. Yet minivans
> typically have far more interior space than a Pacifica or SRX does.
Most,
> if not all minivans are equipped with sliding doors, while none of
these
> vehicles are.
>
> The most logical conclusion is that a new segment has truly been
born. For
> the purposes of discussion, these should be termed Car-like Utility
> Vehicles, or CUVs* for short.
>
> In order to clarify the distinction between CUVs and other vehicle
segments,
> I offer the following questions and answers:
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not an SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort, interior space
and
> touring utility over off-road ability and towing capacity
> o When it is only offered with AWD or 2WD, as opposed to a
traditional
> 4-wheel-drive system with low range
> o When its styling suggests a tall car or high-sided station
wagon,
> rather than a highly-suspended station wagon
>
> When is a vehicle a 'car-based' SUV and not a CUV?
> o When its interior space more closely resembles that of a
compact car,
> rather than a large car (CUVs emphasize passenger comfort.)
> o When its styling suggests a small, highly-suspended station
wagon
> rather than a high-sided wagon or tall car
>
> When is a vehicle a CUV and not a station wagon?
> o When it shares no sheetmetal with a direct sedan counterpart
offered
> elsewhere in the manufacturer's lineup
> o When its vertical dimension is larger than any 'car' offered
by the
> same manufacturer
>
> When is a vehicle a station wagon and not a CUV or SUV?
> o When it shares a large proportion of its sheetmetal and/or
exterior
> styling with a sedan or coupe in the same manufacturer's lineup
> o When its height and width are similar to those of a
traditional car
>
> When is a vehicle a minivan and not a CUV?
> o When it offers one or more sliding doors
> o When it is primarily sold as a front wheel drive vehicle.
> o When its interior capacity enables the user to carry 4-foot
wide
> sheet goods laying flat in the cargo area
>
> When is a vehicle a car, rather than a CUV or SUV?
> o When its design emphasizes passenger comfort and space in a
> reasonably compact package
> o When its design only lends itself to occasional use for cargo
hauling
> o When its styling suggests use for commuting, touring, or
racing
>
> *It is noted that the name 'CUV' is tentatively to be applied to a
> forthcoming product in 2006 by DaimlerChrysler's Smart brand. Their
> definition of the term is 'Crossover Utility Vehicle', which I
maintain is
> very similar to Car-like Utility Vehicle. Regardless, one
manufacturer
> deciding to give a product a name that is more rightly descriptive
of a
> segment than a particular vehicle does not invalidate the use of the
term to
> describe the segment as a whole.
>
> Copyright (C) 2004 by Geoff Gariepy
>
>
>
>

 

LOFL!

You have a good sense of humor, not like a lot of other stick up the ***
types in here!

Nice to meet you.

Refinish King


"The Lindbergh Baby" <johngrabowski1@die.spammersearthlink.net> wrote in
message news:40CAD028.1070706@die.spammersearthlink.net...
> I escaped.
>
>
> John
>
> Refinish King wrote:
> > Weren't you kidnapped and killed over 50 years ago?
> >
> > Refinish King
> >
> >
> > "The Lindbergh Baby" <johngrabowski1@die.spammersearthlink.net> wrote in
> > message news:40C9DC6B.9080702@die.spammersearthlink.net...
> >
> >>Geoff wrote:
> >>
> >>>Ever driven behind or next to a Chrysler Pacifica, Chevy Equinox or
> >>
> > Cadillac
> >
> >>>SRX and wondered just what to call it?
> >>
> >>No, I know just what to call it. ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>--
> >>To reply, remove "die.spammers" from address
> >>
> >>
> >>Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> To reply, remove "die.spammers" from address
>
>
> Von Herzen, moge es wieder zu Herzen gehen. --Beethoven
>