Chrysler engineers are geniuses...
06-27-2006, 10:39 PM
#21
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses...
Glad to hear you got it fixed even if the floor was made out of foil,
but PLEASE don't mention goats on this newsgroup! <G>
Jeff DeWitt
Tom Greening wrote:
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
but PLEASE don't mention goats on this newsgroup! <G>
Jeff DeWitt
Tom Greening wrote:
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
06-27-2006, 10:39 PM
#22
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses...
Glad to hear you got it fixed even if the floor was made out of foil,
but PLEASE don't mention goats on this newsgroup! <G>
Jeff DeWitt
Tom Greening wrote:
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
but PLEASE don't mention goats on this newsgroup! <G>
Jeff DeWitt
Tom Greening wrote:
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
#23
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses...
Didn't I tell you to use 20 ga.? ;^) Another advantage of 20 ga., is that
it is thin enough to be cut with tin snips. Welding 20 ga. to whatever you
have would be fairly easy, compared to 16 ga. Try cutting the stuff with a
saber saw or a Skil saw cutoff wheel next time.
16 ga. is probably a good choice for a floor, if you paint it with something
good and treat all joints properly. But imagine the weight penalty if they
had made the whole body out of the stuff.
Earle
"Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:_Fiog.6603$vl5.1291@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
it is thin enough to be cut with tin snips. Welding 20 ga. to whatever you
have would be fairly easy, compared to 16 ga. Try cutting the stuff with a
saber saw or a Skil saw cutoff wheel next time.
16 ga. is probably a good choice for a floor, if you paint it with something
good and treat all joints properly. But imagine the weight penalty if they
had made the whole body out of the stuff.
Earle
"Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:_Fiog.6603$vl5.1291@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
#24
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses...
Didn't I tell you to use 20 ga.? ;^) Another advantage of 20 ga., is that
it is thin enough to be cut with tin snips. Welding 20 ga. to whatever you
have would be fairly easy, compared to 16 ga. Try cutting the stuff with a
saber saw or a Skil saw cutoff wheel next time.
16 ga. is probably a good choice for a floor, if you paint it with something
good and treat all joints properly. But imagine the weight penalty if they
had made the whole body out of the stuff.
Earle
"Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:_Fiog.6603$vl5.1291@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
it is thin enough to be cut with tin snips. Welding 20 ga. to whatever you
have would be fairly easy, compared to 16 ga. Try cutting the stuff with a
saber saw or a Skil saw cutoff wheel next time.
16 ga. is probably a good choice for a floor, if you paint it with something
good and treat all joints properly. But imagine the weight penalty if they
had made the whole body out of the stuff.
Earle
"Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:_Fiog.6603$vl5.1291@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
#25
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses...
Didn't I tell you to use 20 ga.? ;^) Another advantage of 20 ga., is that
it is thin enough to be cut with tin snips. Welding 20 ga. to whatever you
have would be fairly easy, compared to 16 ga. Try cutting the stuff with a
saber saw or a Skil saw cutoff wheel next time.
16 ga. is probably a good choice for a floor, if you paint it with something
good and treat all joints properly. But imagine the weight penalty if they
had made the whole body out of the stuff.
Earle
"Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:_Fiog.6603$vl5.1291@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
it is thin enough to be cut with tin snips. Welding 20 ga. to whatever you
have would be fairly easy, compared to 16 ga. Try cutting the stuff with a
saber saw or a Skil saw cutoff wheel next time.
16 ga. is probably a good choice for a floor, if you paint it with something
good and treat all joints properly. But imagine the weight penalty if they
had made the whole body out of the stuff.
Earle
"Tom Greening" <tgreening@yomama.com> wrote in message
news:_Fiog.6603$vl5.1291@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> My hat goes off to those guys. Anyone that can design a vehicle
> (Cherokee in this case) whose body can last for YEARS, while made out of
> metal just slightly thicker than your average two-ply bath tissue has
> GOT to be a genius.
>
> I've spent the last couple months (off and on) replacing the entire
> bottom of a 94 Cherokee and have had fits trying to weld replacement
> sheet of some substance (16 gauge) to that tissue Chrysler called sheet
> metal. While the 16 turned out to be something of overkill, it should
> last quite a while. It probably would have been easier to weld 20 gauge
> to whatever the stock material is, but at least the floor has got some
> substance to it now, especially since I had no convenient way to add any
> stiffening bends to it.
>
> I know one thing, the future includes a plasma cutter. Cutting all that
> sheet with a 4 1/2" grinder and cut-off wheels blew great big goats I'll
> tell you.
06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses... Try AMC eh...
May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> >
> >
>
> Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> metal like tissue paper.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> >
> >
>
> Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> metal like tissue paper.
06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses... Try AMC eh...
May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> >
> >
>
> Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> metal like tissue paper.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> >
> >
>
> Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> metal like tissue paper.
06-28-2006, 01:28 AM
#28
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses... Try AMC eh...
May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> >
> >
>
> Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> metal like tissue paper.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Tom Greening wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> >
> >
>
> Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> metal like tissue paper.
06-28-2006, 09:16 AM
#29
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses... Try AMC eh...
Hey, you are talking to someone with plywood for floors in the XJ....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Tom Greening wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> > metal like tissue paper.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Tom Greening wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> > metal like tissue paper.
06-28-2006, 09:16 AM
#30
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Re: Chrysler engineers are geniuses... Try AMC eh...
Hey, you are talking to someone with plywood for floors in the XJ....
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Tom Greening wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> > metal like tissue paper.
Mike
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> May give you an idea: http://www.----------.com/snowXJ/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Tom Greening wrote:
> >
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Umm, try again, AMC designed the Cherokee. I have 2 of them and they
> > > are AMC vehicles, so is my CJ7.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Doesn't matter. The point was that cherokees (94's at least) have sheet
> > metal like tissue paper.