Joe

85 CJ7 258 I6

I have to shoot some starter fluid in the carb to start it the first time
each day (subsequent starts are no issue). I was told to replace the fuel
filter since that could have been the problem. I did that and it didn't
help. I've also been told to "check the choke". What do I check for? Once
it's started, it runs fine.

Earle Horton

The choke valve should be closed first thing in the morning. If it is not,
then the fast idle cam could be holding it open. If so, after one pump of
the go pedal the choke should be closed for sure. If it is now open, then
you have a problem with the choke. The choke valve is the round plate at
the top of the carburetor throat, visible after the air cleaner top is
removed. Your description of the problem is consistent with a choke problem
for sure.

Earle

"Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> 85 CJ7 258 I6
>
> I have to shoot some starter fluid in the carb to start it the first time
> each day (subsequent starts are no issue). I was told to replace the fuel
> filter since that could have been the problem. I did that and it didn't
> help. I've also been told to "check the choke". What do I check for?
Once
> it's started, it runs fine.
>
>

Joe

THANKS!
It stays open... how do I fix it?

"Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
news:bfv9h8$imfh4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> The choke valve should be closed first thing in the morning. If it is
not,
> then the fast idle cam could be holding it open. If so, after one pump of
> the go pedal the choke should be closed for sure. If it is now open, then
> you have a problem with the choke. The choke valve is the round plate at
> the top of the carburetor throat, visible after the air cleaner top is
> removed. Your description of the problem is consistent with a choke
problem
> for sure.
>
> Earle
>
> "Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:6HFUa.23413$Mc.1791837@newsread1.prod.itd.ear thlink.net...
> > 85 CJ7 258 I6
> >
> > I have to shoot some starter fluid in the carb to start it the first
time
> > each day (subsequent starts are no issue). I was told to replace the
fuel
> > filter since that could have been the problem. I did that and it didn't
> > help. I've also been told to "check the choke". What do I check for?
> Once
> > it's started, it runs fine.
> >
> >
>
>
>

Mike Romain

Replace it.

If it stays open it is broken or someone has wired it open.

Your symptoms can also happen if you put the gas filter in upside down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Joe wrote:
>
> THANKS!
> It stays open... how do I fix it?
>
> "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in message
> news:bfv9h8$imfh4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The choke valve should be closed first thing in the morning. If it is
> not,
> > then the fast idle cam could be holding it open. If so, after one pump of
> > the go pedal the choke should be closed for sure. If it is now open, then
> > you have a problem with the choke. The choke valve is the round plate at
> > the top of the carburetor throat, visible after the air cleaner top is
> > removed. Your description of the problem is consistent with a choke
> problem
> > for sure.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:6HFUa.23413$Mc.1791837@newsread1.prod.itd.ear thlink.net...
> > > 85 CJ7 258 I6
> > >
> > > I have to shoot some starter fluid in the carb to start it the first
> time
> > > each day (subsequent starts are no issue). I was told to replace the
> fuel
> > > filter since that could have been the problem. I did that and it didn't
> > > help. I've also been told to "check the choke". What do I check for?
> > Once
> > > it's started, it runs fine.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >

Mike Romain

Is the tab bent or something?

Does the tab move freely?

I see the shaft this tab is on get seized up bad where it goes through
the choke body and then up to the choke plate.

It also takes a while for the spring to cool down and close the choke,
it isn't instant or anything.

Mike

Joe wrote:
>
> I finally got a new choke coil. I pulled the old one off. It looks fine.
> I replaced it so that it was actually closing the choke and the jeep started
> right up. After a while (a minute??) the choke was fully open and the Jeep
> was running great. I shut her down and the choke was still open and it acts
> like before (choke open, no spring tension from the coil). It seems like
> the the spring is just slipping off the tab that controls the choke linkage.
> Here's a picture of the choke coil parts.
> http://jeep.dyndns.tv/images/jeep/chokecoil.jpg
> The part on the left is the coil, the part on the right is the retaining
> clip that holds the coil on. What's the part in the middle? It seeme to be
> some sort of spacer with a slot cut out to keep the choke form moving too
> far either way??? Is that piece needed? Could that be what's allowing the
> linkage to slip off the coil?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F25A489.F5FAC82@sympatico.ca...
> > Replace it.
> >
> > If it stays open it is broken or someone has wired it open.
> >
> > Your symptoms can also happen if you put the gas filter in upside down.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Joe wrote:
> > >
> > > THANKS!
> > > It stays open... how do I fix it?
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:bfv9h8$imfh4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > The choke valve should be closed first thing in the morning. If it is
> > > not,
> > > > then the fast idle cam could be holding it open. If so, after one
> pump of
> > > > the go pedal the choke should be closed for sure. If it is now open,
> then
> > > > you have a problem with the choke. The choke valve is the round plate
> at
> > > > the top of the carburetor throat, visible after the air cleaner top is
> > > > removed. Your description of the problem is consistent with a choke
> > > problem
> > > > for sure.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:6HFUa.23413$Mc.1791837@newsread1.prod.itd.ear thlink.net...
> > > > > 85 CJ7 258 I6
> > > > >
> > > > > I have to shoot some starter fluid in the carb to start it the first
> > > time
> > > > > each day (subsequent starts are no issue). I was told to replace
> the
> > > fuel
> > > > > filter since that could have been the problem. I did that and it
> didn't
> > > > > help. I've also been told to "check the choke". What do I check
> for?
> > > > Once
> > > > > it's started, it runs fine.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >

Joe

"It also takes a while for the spring to cool down and close the choke, it
isn't instant or anything."
That's what it is. I shut off the engine and said "SH*T, the choke is
open... should snap closed"... Then I remembered reading somewhere that it
slowly closes when it cools.
Mike, thanks for your help.

Now that I have the engine starting and running well, I attack the leaks!
Rear diff first.

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F3546BE.2DADF87D@sympatico.ca...
> Is the tab bent or something?
>
> Does the tab move freely?
>
> I see the shaft this tab is on get seized up bad where it goes through
> the choke body and then up to the choke plate.
>
> It also takes a while for the spring to cool down and close the choke,
> it isn't instant or anything.
>
> Mike
>
> Joe wrote:
> >
> > I finally got a new choke coil. I pulled the old one off. It looks
fine.
> > I replaced it so that it was actually closing the choke and the jeep
started
> > right up. After a while (a minute??) the choke was fully open and the
Jeep
> > was running great. I shut her down and the choke was still open and it
acts
> > like before (choke open, no spring tension from the coil). It seems
like
> > the the spring is just slipping off the tab that controls the choke
linkage.
> > Here's a picture of the choke coil parts.
> > http://jeep.dyndns.tv/images/jeep/chokecoil.jpg
> > The part on the left is the coil, the part on the right is the retaining
> > clip that holds the coil on. What's the part in the middle? It seeme
to be
> > some sort of spacer with a slot cut out to keep the choke form moving
too
> > far either way??? Is that piece needed? Could that be what's allowing
the
> > linkage to slip off the coil?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:3F25A489.F5FAC82@sympatico.ca...
> > > Replace it.
> > >
> > > If it stays open it is broken or someone has wired it open.
> > >
> > > Your symptoms can also happen if you put the gas filter in upside
down.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Joe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > THANKS!
> > > > It stays open... how do I fix it?
> > > >
> > > > "Earle Horton" <enfermero_diabolico@registerednurses.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > news:bfv9h8$imfh4$1@ID-147790.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > > > > The choke valve should be closed first thing in the morning. If
it is
> > > > not,
> > > > > then the fast idle cam could be holding it open. If so, after one
> > pump of
> > > > > the go pedal the choke should be closed for sure. If it is now
open,
> > then
> > > > > you have a problem with the choke. The choke valve is the round
plate
> > at
> > > > > the top of the carburetor throat, visible after the air cleaner
top is
> > > > > removed. Your description of the problem is consistent with a
choke
> > > > problem
> > > > > for sure.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle
> > > > >
> > > > > "Joe" <jo_ratner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:6HFUa.23413$Mc.1791837@newsread1.prod.itd.ear thlink.net...
> > > > > > 85 CJ7 258 I6
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have to shoot some starter fluid in the carb to start it the
first
> > > > time
> > > > > > each day (subsequent starts are no issue). I was told to
replace
> > the
> > > > fuel
> > > > > > filter since that could have been the problem. I did that and
it
> > didn't
> > > > > > help. I've also been told to "check the choke". What do I
check
> > for?
> > > > > Once
> > > > > > it's started, it runs fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>