Cherokee transfer case forks broken
#11
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
Thanks for the fast replies guys. It was definitely in full-time 4wd.
According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
it.
Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
Thanks, again.
According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
it.
Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
Thanks, again.
#12
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
Thanks for the fast replies guys. It was definitely in full-time 4wd.
According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
it.
Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
Thanks, again.
According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
it.
Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
Thanks, again.
#13
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
Thanks for the fast replies guys. It was definitely in full-time 4wd.
According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
it.
Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
Thanks, again.
According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
it.
Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
Thanks, again.
#14
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B7651A.14E0EC0A@sympatico.ca...
> Ahh well.....
>
> I have the Command Trac NP231 in my Cherokee and the owners manual on
> page 50 specifically says it is ok to drive on wet pavement with it.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Chuck Bremer wrote:
> >
> > Which transfer case do you have? If you have a part-time transfer case
> > ("Command-Trac" or NP231), it is not designed to be driven on hard
surfaces
> > at all, even if the surface is wet. Snow, sand, gravel, dirt is OK, but
hard
> > surfaces are not. The full-time "Selec-Trac" or NP242 can be driven in
> > full-time mode on any surface.
> >
> > If you're somewhat handy or have friends that are, you can find
low-mileage
> > Jeep transfer cases on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars (including
> > shipping) and install it yourself in a day or 2. $900 sounds quite high
to
> > me as well, just for replacing parts.
> >
> > <bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102537107.758871.187870@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > > I've got a '99 Cherokee Sport with ~90k miles. I was recently driving
> > > in 4wd at around 80mph on a wet highway when I experienced a couple of
> > > bumps from somewhere in the drive train. It felt just like a hit some
> > > rough pavement, in fact that's what I initially thought had happened.
I
> > > got out and walked around the vehicle after feeling it again and
> > > realizing that it wasn't the road. I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
> > > About thirty minutes later I got the bump again followed by a horrible
> > > grinding noise. I quickly slowed down and threw it into 2wd. The
> > > grinding stopped, but I'm still getting intermittent bumps. The bumps
> > > vary in intensity and frequency. It basically feels like the vehicle
is
> > > being bumped from behind or hitting a large pothole.
> > >
> > > So, I took it to a local transmission shop and they opened the
transfer
> > > case. They're telling me that the problem is a broken shift fork. The
> > > fork needs to be replaced along with some damaged bearings. Does this
> > > sound right? I don't know much about 4wd since this is my first, but I
> > > fail to understand how this happened or how it was causing the
> > > bump/lurch/jerk. They want to charge me $900 to do this work which
> > > seems steep. Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so maybe it's
> > > not steep.
> > >
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B7651A.14E0EC0A@sympatico.ca...
> Ahh well.....
>
> I have the Command Trac NP231 in my Cherokee and the owners manual on
> page 50 specifically says it is ok to drive on wet pavement with it.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Chuck Bremer wrote:
> >
> > Which transfer case do you have? If you have a part-time transfer case
> > ("Command-Trac" or NP231), it is not designed to be driven on hard
surfaces
> > at all, even if the surface is wet. Snow, sand, gravel, dirt is OK, but
hard
> > surfaces are not. The full-time "Selec-Trac" or NP242 can be driven in
> > full-time mode on any surface.
> >
> > If you're somewhat handy or have friends that are, you can find
low-mileage
> > Jeep transfer cases on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars (including
> > shipping) and install it yourself in a day or 2. $900 sounds quite high
to
> > me as well, just for replacing parts.
> >
> > <bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102537107.758871.187870@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > > I've got a '99 Cherokee Sport with ~90k miles. I was recently driving
> > > in 4wd at around 80mph on a wet highway when I experienced a couple of
> > > bumps from somewhere in the drive train. It felt just like a hit some
> > > rough pavement, in fact that's what I initially thought had happened.
I
> > > got out and walked around the vehicle after feeling it again and
> > > realizing that it wasn't the road. I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
> > > About thirty minutes later I got the bump again followed by a horrible
> > > grinding noise. I quickly slowed down and threw it into 2wd. The
> > > grinding stopped, but I'm still getting intermittent bumps. The bumps
> > > vary in intensity and frequency. It basically feels like the vehicle
is
> > > being bumped from behind or hitting a large pothole.
> > >
> > > So, I took it to a local transmission shop and they opened the
transfer
> > > case. They're telling me that the problem is a broken shift fork. The
> > > fork needs to be replaced along with some damaged bearings. Does this
> > > sound right? I don't know much about 4wd since this is my first, but I
> > > fail to understand how this happened or how it was causing the
> > > bump/lurch/jerk. They want to charge me $900 to do this work which
> > > seems steep. Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so maybe it's
> > > not steep.
> > >
#15
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B7651A.14E0EC0A@sympatico.ca...
> Ahh well.....
>
> I have the Command Trac NP231 in my Cherokee and the owners manual on
> page 50 specifically says it is ok to drive on wet pavement with it.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Chuck Bremer wrote:
> >
> > Which transfer case do you have? If you have a part-time transfer case
> > ("Command-Trac" or NP231), it is not designed to be driven on hard
surfaces
> > at all, even if the surface is wet. Snow, sand, gravel, dirt is OK, but
hard
> > surfaces are not. The full-time "Selec-Trac" or NP242 can be driven in
> > full-time mode on any surface.
> >
> > If you're somewhat handy or have friends that are, you can find
low-mileage
> > Jeep transfer cases on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars (including
> > shipping) and install it yourself in a day or 2. $900 sounds quite high
to
> > me as well, just for replacing parts.
> >
> > <bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102537107.758871.187870@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > > I've got a '99 Cherokee Sport with ~90k miles. I was recently driving
> > > in 4wd at around 80mph on a wet highway when I experienced a couple of
> > > bumps from somewhere in the drive train. It felt just like a hit some
> > > rough pavement, in fact that's what I initially thought had happened.
I
> > > got out and walked around the vehicle after feeling it again and
> > > realizing that it wasn't the road. I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
> > > About thirty minutes later I got the bump again followed by a horrible
> > > grinding noise. I quickly slowed down and threw it into 2wd. The
> > > grinding stopped, but I'm still getting intermittent bumps. The bumps
> > > vary in intensity and frequency. It basically feels like the vehicle
is
> > > being bumped from behind or hitting a large pothole.
> > >
> > > So, I took it to a local transmission shop and they opened the
transfer
> > > case. They're telling me that the problem is a broken shift fork. The
> > > fork needs to be replaced along with some damaged bearings. Does this
> > > sound right? I don't know much about 4wd since this is my first, but I
> > > fail to understand how this happened or how it was causing the
> > > bump/lurch/jerk. They want to charge me $900 to do this work which
> > > seems steep. Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so maybe it's
> > > not steep.
> > >
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B7651A.14E0EC0A@sympatico.ca...
> Ahh well.....
>
> I have the Command Trac NP231 in my Cherokee and the owners manual on
> page 50 specifically says it is ok to drive on wet pavement with it.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Chuck Bremer wrote:
> >
> > Which transfer case do you have? If you have a part-time transfer case
> > ("Command-Trac" or NP231), it is not designed to be driven on hard
surfaces
> > at all, even if the surface is wet. Snow, sand, gravel, dirt is OK, but
hard
> > surfaces are not. The full-time "Selec-Trac" or NP242 can be driven in
> > full-time mode on any surface.
> >
> > If you're somewhat handy or have friends that are, you can find
low-mileage
> > Jeep transfer cases on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars (including
> > shipping) and install it yourself in a day or 2. $900 sounds quite high
to
> > me as well, just for replacing parts.
> >
> > <bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102537107.758871.187870@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > > I've got a '99 Cherokee Sport with ~90k miles. I was recently driving
> > > in 4wd at around 80mph on a wet highway when I experienced a couple of
> > > bumps from somewhere in the drive train. It felt just like a hit some
> > > rough pavement, in fact that's what I initially thought had happened.
I
> > > got out and walked around the vehicle after feeling it again and
> > > realizing that it wasn't the road. I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
> > > About thirty minutes later I got the bump again followed by a horrible
> > > grinding noise. I quickly slowed down and threw it into 2wd. The
> > > grinding stopped, but I'm still getting intermittent bumps. The bumps
> > > vary in intensity and frequency. It basically feels like the vehicle
is
> > > being bumped from behind or hitting a large pothole.
> > >
> > > So, I took it to a local transmission shop and they opened the
transfer
> > > case. They're telling me that the problem is a broken shift fork. The
> > > fork needs to be replaced along with some damaged bearings. Does this
> > > sound right? I don't know much about 4wd since this is my first, but I
> > > fail to understand how this happened or how it was causing the
> > > bump/lurch/jerk. They want to charge me $900 to do this work which
> > > seems steep. Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so maybe it's
> > > not steep.
> > >
#16
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B7651A.14E0EC0A@sympatico.ca...
> Ahh well.....
>
> I have the Command Trac NP231 in my Cherokee and the owners manual on
> page 50 specifically says it is ok to drive on wet pavement with it.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Chuck Bremer wrote:
> >
> > Which transfer case do you have? If you have a part-time transfer case
> > ("Command-Trac" or NP231), it is not designed to be driven on hard
surfaces
> > at all, even if the surface is wet. Snow, sand, gravel, dirt is OK, but
hard
> > surfaces are not. The full-time "Selec-Trac" or NP242 can be driven in
> > full-time mode on any surface.
> >
> > If you're somewhat handy or have friends that are, you can find
low-mileage
> > Jeep transfer cases on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars (including
> > shipping) and install it yourself in a day or 2. $900 sounds quite high
to
> > me as well, just for replacing parts.
> >
> > <bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102537107.758871.187870@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > > I've got a '99 Cherokee Sport with ~90k miles. I was recently driving
> > > in 4wd at around 80mph on a wet highway when I experienced a couple of
> > > bumps from somewhere in the drive train. It felt just like a hit some
> > > rough pavement, in fact that's what I initially thought had happened.
I
> > > got out and walked around the vehicle after feeling it again and
> > > realizing that it wasn't the road. I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
> > > About thirty minutes later I got the bump again followed by a horrible
> > > grinding noise. I quickly slowed down and threw it into 2wd. The
> > > grinding stopped, but I'm still getting intermittent bumps. The bumps
> > > vary in intensity and frequency. It basically feels like the vehicle
is
> > > being bumped from behind or hitting a large pothole.
> > >
> > > So, I took it to a local transmission shop and they opened the
transfer
> > > case. They're telling me that the problem is a broken shift fork. The
> > > fork needs to be replaced along with some damaged bearings. Does this
> > > sound right? I don't know much about 4wd since this is my first, but I
> > > fail to understand how this happened or how it was causing the
> > > bump/lurch/jerk. They want to charge me $900 to do this work which
> > > seems steep. Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so maybe it's
> > > not steep.
> > >
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41B7651A.14E0EC0A@sympatico.ca...
> Ahh well.....
>
> I have the Command Trac NP231 in my Cherokee and the owners manual on
> page 50 specifically says it is ok to drive on wet pavement with it.....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Chuck Bremer wrote:
> >
> > Which transfer case do you have? If you have a part-time transfer case
> > ("Command-Trac" or NP231), it is not designed to be driven on hard
surfaces
> > at all, even if the surface is wet. Snow, sand, gravel, dirt is OK, but
hard
> > surfaces are not. The full-time "Selec-Trac" or NP242 can be driven in
> > full-time mode on any surface.
> >
> > If you're somewhat handy or have friends that are, you can find
low-mileage
> > Jeep transfer cases on ebay for a couple of hundred dollars (including
> > shipping) and install it yourself in a day or 2. $900 sounds quite high
to
> > me as well, just for replacing parts.
> >
> > <bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1102537107.758871.187870@c13g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> > > I've got a '99 Cherokee Sport with ~90k miles. I was recently driving
> > > in 4wd at around 80mph on a wet highway when I experienced a couple of
> > > bumps from somewhere in the drive train. It felt just like a hit some
> > > rough pavement, in fact that's what I initially thought had happened.
I
> > > got out and walked around the vehicle after feeling it again and
> > > realizing that it wasn't the road. I saw nothing out of the ordinary.
> > > About thirty minutes later I got the bump again followed by a horrible
> > > grinding noise. I quickly slowed down and threw it into 2wd. The
> > > grinding stopped, but I'm still getting intermittent bumps. The bumps
> > > vary in intensity and frequency. It basically feels like the vehicle
is
> > > being bumped from behind or hitting a large pothole.
> > >
> > > So, I took it to a local transmission shop and they opened the
transfer
> > > case. They're telling me that the problem is a broken shift fork. The
> > > fork needs to be replaced along with some damaged bearings. Does this
> > > sound right? I don't know much about 4wd since this is my first, but I
> > > fail to understand how this happened or how it was causing the
> > > bump/lurch/jerk. They want to charge me $900 to do this work which
> > > seems steep. Again, I don't know what I'm talking about, so maybe it's
> > > not steep.
> > >
#17
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102539174.483597.46150@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for the fast replies guys. It was definitely in full-time 4wd.
> According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
> that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
> it.
>
> Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
> have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
> be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
>
> Thanks, again.
>
Definitely.
The job of the tcase is to connect the front axle to the drive train. If the
tcase is toast, and the tires are turning, the tcase will be very noisy.
Bumps would be mild.
#18
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102539174.483597.46150@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for the fast replies guys. It was definitely in full-time 4wd.
> According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
> that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
> it.
>
> Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
> have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
> be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
>
> Thanks, again.
>
Definitely.
The job of the tcase is to connect the front axle to the drive train. If the
tcase is toast, and the tires are turning, the tcase will be very noisy.
Bumps would be mild.
#19
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
<bcoker@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1102539174.483597.46150@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> Thanks for the fast replies guys. It was definitely in full-time 4wd.
> According to the manual I can drive in this mode all the time. I stress
> that I'm a 4wd newbie, but I did consult the manual before ever using
> it.
>
> Installing a new case myself isn't an option. Unfortunately, I don't
> have the tools/time. Just to clarify, the bumping sounds like it could
> be caused by the transfer case damage to you guys?
>
> Thanks, again.
>
Definitely.
The job of the tcase is to connect the front axle to the drive train. If the
tcase is toast, and the tires are turning, the tcase will be very noisy.
Bumps would be mild.
#20
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Re: Cherokee transfer case forks broken
The bumps were usually mild, but they did vary. I just spoke with the
mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
suppose.
I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).
mechanic again and he clarified that the transfer case is being
completely rebuilt. This goes a long way to justifying the price I
suppose.
I'm a little confused by the disagreement on when you can and can't use
fulltime 4wd. To further explain my situation, I was driving out of
snow and into light rain. When the snow stopped I was able to go faster
on what were essentially just wet roads (no ice), but I kept the 4wd on
for increased traction. Was this a bad idea? I must admit it's the
first time I ever used 4wd at that speed, but I do use it occasionally
around town when the roads are wet at much lower speeds (40 -50 mph).