Cherokee Model Query
09-24-2005, 10:41 AM
#21
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
owned by Renault.
So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
and they were mediocre. Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
very happy.
JoBo
"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com...
> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
> Thanks for any and all.
> --
>
> Monroe
owned by Renault.
So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
and they were mediocre. Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
very happy.
JoBo
"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com...
> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
> Thanks for any and all.
> --
>
> Monroe
09-24-2005, 10:41 AM
#22
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
owned by Renault.
So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
and they were mediocre. Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
very happy.
JoBo
"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com...
> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
> Thanks for any and all.
> --
>
> Monroe
owned by Renault.
So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
and they were mediocre. Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
very happy.
JoBo
"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com...
> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
> Thanks for any and all.
> --
>
> Monroe
09-24-2005, 02:08 PM
#23
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:36:36 GMT, Monroe <minburn1@telus.net> wrote:
>I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
>As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
>Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
>Thanks for any and all.
--
Monroe
most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:36:36 GMT, Monroe <minburn1@telus.net> wrote:
>I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
>As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
>Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
>Thanks for any and all.
--
Monroe
09-24-2005, 02:08 PM
#24
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Posts: n/a
Re: Cherokee Model Query
I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:36:36 GMT, Monroe <minburn1@telus.net> wrote:
>I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
>As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
>Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
>Thanks for any and all.
--
Monroe
most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:36:36 GMT, Monroe <minburn1@telus.net> wrote:
>I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
>As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
>Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
>Thanks for any and all.
--
Monroe
09-24-2005, 02:08 PM
#25
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Posts: n/a
Re: Cherokee Model Query
I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:36:36 GMT, Monroe <minburn1@telus.net> wrote:
>I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
>As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
>Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
>Thanks for any and all.
--
Monroe
most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 04:36:36 GMT, Monroe <minburn1@telus.net> wrote:
>I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>
>As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>
>Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>
>Thanks for any and all.
--
Monroe
09-24-2005, 07:58 PM
#26
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
In message <OAdZe.21841$ib1.17377@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>, "Jo Bo" wrote:
>Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
>owned by Renault.
>So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
>utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
>and they were mediocre.
Only 1 GM engine was ever used in XJ. A carbureted 2.8L V6. Your basic boat
anchor.
> Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
>Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
>recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
>did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
>Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
>Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
>Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
>electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
>Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
>models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
>combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
>hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
>was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
>because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
>the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
>find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
>has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
>with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
>many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
>on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
>very happy.
>
>JoBo
>
>"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com.. .
>> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>>
>> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>>
>> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all.
>> --
>>
>> Monroe
>
>Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
>owned by Renault.
>So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
>utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
>and they were mediocre.
Only 1 GM engine was ever used in XJ. A carbureted 2.8L V6. Your basic boat
anchor.
> Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
>Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
>recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
>did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
>Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
>Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
>Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
>electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
>Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
>models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
>combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
>hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
>was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
>because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
>the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
>find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
>has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
>with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
>many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
>on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
>very happy.
>
>JoBo
>
>"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com.. .
>> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>>
>> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>>
>> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all.
>> --
>>
>> Monroe
>
09-24-2005, 07:58 PM
#27
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Re: Cherokee Model Query
In message <OAdZe.21841$ib1.17377@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>, "Jo Bo" wrote:
>Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
>owned by Renault.
>So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
>utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
>and they were mediocre.
Only 1 GM engine was ever used in XJ. A carbureted 2.8L V6. Your basic boat
anchor.
> Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
>Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
>recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
>did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
>Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
>Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
>Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
>electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
>Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
>models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
>combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
>hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
>was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
>because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
>the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
>find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
>has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
>with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
>many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
>on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
>very happy.
>
>JoBo
>
>"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com.. .
>> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>>
>> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>>
>> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all.
>> --
>>
>> Monroe
>
>Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
>owned by Renault.
>So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
>utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
>and they were mediocre.
Only 1 GM engine was ever used in XJ. A carbureted 2.8L V6. Your basic boat
anchor.
> Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
>Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
>recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
>did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
>Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
>Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
>Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
>electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
>Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
>models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
>combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
>hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
>was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
>because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
>the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
>find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
>has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
>with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
>many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
>on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
>very happy.
>
>JoBo
>
>"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com.. .
>> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>>
>> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>>
>> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all.
>> --
>>
>> Monroe
>
09-24-2005, 07:58 PM
#28
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Posts: n/a
Re: Cherokee Model Query
In message <OAdZe.21841$ib1.17377@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>, "Jo Bo" wrote:
>Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
>owned by Renault.
>So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
>utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
>and they were mediocre.
Only 1 GM engine was ever used in XJ. A carbureted 2.8L V6. Your basic boat
anchor.
> Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
>Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
>recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
>did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
>Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
>Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
>Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
>electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
>Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
>models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
>combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
>hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
>was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
>because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
>the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
>find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
>has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
>with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
>many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
>on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
>very happy.
>
>JoBo
>
>"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com.. .
>> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>>
>> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>>
>> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all.
>> --
>>
>> Monroe
>
>Let's consider when the XJ hit the market, 1983. At that time AMC-Jeep was
>owned by Renault.
>So there's plenty of European influence in it's basic design and it's a very
>utilitarian vehicle. For the first few years they used various GM engines
>and they were mediocre.
Only 1 GM engine was ever used in XJ. A carbureted 2.8L V6. Your basic boat
anchor.
> Then they gave rebirth to what some say is a 1929
>Nash 6 cylinder engine by adding electronic fuel injection (1987 as I
>recall). Then they started looking for a automatic transmission for it. They
>did not use the previous Chrysler auto but instead ended up with a Japanese
>Asin AW-4 that's rumored to be a re-engineered Ford tranny that has
>Borg-Warner electronics, hence the W. This tranny is used in some Toyota
>Supras and other car maker's products. Later the engine got Chrysler
>electronics in it's HO configuration. (90 or 91). The engine was used in
>Cherokees until they stopped making them in 2001. There were some 4 cylinder
>models made though. The 4.0L engine and Asin AW4 tranny are a unbeatable
>combination. In a little over a year I've owned a 89, 96 and now a 99 that I
>hope to have a long time. In 93 Chrysler introduced the GRAND Cherokee that
>was supposed to replace the Cherokee. As a result they didn't mess it up
>because it was supposed to "fade away". That didn't happened and sales of
>the XJ soared. My daughter got a 93 GC new and recently a used 2004 GC but I
>find them harder to get into and out of and it does not seem as spacious. It
>has bells and whistles out the ying yang. My XJ has power windows and locks
>with remotes and heated remote mirrors, plenty for me! I was a VW fan for
>many years and find the XJ very similar many respects. When you get a XJ put
>on a HIDDEN HITCH and wiring harness available from etrailer and you'll be
>very happy.
>
>JoBo
>
>"Monroe" <minburn1@telus.net> wrote in message
>news:vml9j1lrrms81uohb3pqua8bfjdv7qgc7c@4ax.com.. .
>> I've been considering the purchase of a 4WD for winter use and general
>> hauling/towing of small utility trailers throughout the year. Because
>> of fuel consumption and quality of build, I've been considering Toyota
>> and Honda. But further investigation has pulled me around to Jeep.
>>
>> As a newbie to this model/brand, what is the signficant mechanical
>> differences between the Cherokee Sport/Limited/Classic and the more
>> refined Grand Cherokee. I'm thinking here chassis, steering,
>> suspension, drivetrain as well as fuel consumption. I'm leaning to a
>> 1999-2001 Cherokee Sport/Limited w/ the 6-cyl, but there seem to be
>> many more Grand Cherokees available in my area.
>>
>> Seems like simple uninformed questions, and that's what they are.
>> Thought a user group would be the place to ask.
>>
>> Thanks for any and all.
>> --
>>
>> Monroe
>
09-25-2005, 06:20 AM
#29
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Posts: n/a
Re: Cherokee Model Query
Monroe wrote:
> I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
> most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
> The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
I'm lurking on this group since a while and found it just great. The
indiviuals here are very knowledgeable and helpful. It you go beyond
'the dealer will fix it' care for your vehicle this group becomes a huge
point in favor of Jeep.
Markus
> I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
> most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
> The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
I'm lurking on this group since a while and found it just great. The
indiviuals here are very knowledgeable and helpful. It you go beyond
'the dealer will fix it' care for your vehicle this group becomes a huge
point in favor of Jeep.
Markus
09-25-2005, 06:20 AM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Cherokee Model Query
Monroe wrote:
> I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
> most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
> The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
I'm lurking on this group since a while and found it just great. The
indiviuals here are very knowledgeable and helpful. It you go beyond
'the dealer will fix it' care for your vehicle this group becomes a huge
point in favor of Jeep.
Markus
> I've received several replies on this. I have to say, some of the
> most informative newsgroup replies that I've experienced. Thanks.
> The jeep experience is opening up for me . . . . . .
I'm lurking on this group since a while and found it just great. The
indiviuals here are very knowledgeable and helpful. It you go beyond
'the dealer will fix it' care for your vehicle this group becomes a huge
point in favor of Jeep.
Markus