coyotefred@gmail.com

I respect what you're saying, but at this point my main prinicple is to
find a durable, reliable vehicle that can do what I want for something
I can afford--whatever the pedigree :) I want a competent full-time
4wd system for the mixed ice/snow/dry pavement conditions I sometimes
find myself driving in, but there also plenty of times when I want the
added traction of traditional part-time 4wd and 4low. If you want all
three options in the same rig that removes a bunch of possible choices
from the list--at least for vehicles in my price range :)

coyotefred@gmail.com

I respect what you're saying, but at this point my main prinicple is to
find a durable, reliable vehicle that can do what I want for something
I can afford--whatever the pedigree :) I want a competent full-time
4wd system for the mixed ice/snow/dry pavement conditions I sometimes
find myself driving in, but there also plenty of times when I want the
added traction of traditional part-time 4wd and 4low. If you want all
three options in the same rig that removes a bunch of possible choices
from the list--at least for vehicles in my price range :)

coyotefred@gmail.com

I respect what you're saying, but at this point my main prinicple is to
find a durable, reliable vehicle that can do what I want for something
I can afford--whatever the pedigree :) I want a competent full-time
4wd system for the mixed ice/snow/dry pavement conditions I sometimes
find myself driving in, but there also plenty of times when I want the
added traction of traditional part-time 4wd and 4low. If you want all
three options in the same rig that removes a bunch of possible choices
from the list--at least for vehicles in my price range :)

philthy

u can buy a dam near new liberty for 16 k

coyotefred@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm hoping you all can help me with a Jeep buying decision. I'm
> trying to decide between a late 90s/early 2000s Cherokee (not the
> Grands, just straight Cherokee) and a 2002 or 2003 Jeep Liberty.
>
> I'd like to spend no more than $16000, and would like to pay
> something less than that (Santa has to pay his bills).
>
> This Jeep would be seeing about 75% paved/highway driving (60
> miles/day), 15% lousy gravel, rock and "gumbo" county roads and
> pasture 2-track (including the 4-mile gumbo stretch to my house), and a
> little moderate "off-roading" now and then (by necessity rather
> than choice) for hunting and fishing trips.
>
> I'm only looking at Cherokees and Libertys with Selec-trac, since I
> want the option of full-time4WD for mixed driving conditions on our
> highways during winter.
>
> Bottom-line I need to decide whether it is worth it to spend another
> $5-$6000 for Liberty. For example, I can get a '99 Selec-trac
> Cherokee in great shape with 62K miles for around $9000. Or I can
> spend around $16,000 for a 2003 Liberty with Selec-trac.
>
> It seems to me that I'd be paying for lots of appearance and
> "comfort" stuff with the Liberty that I'm not particularly
> interested in. I actually like the simple and blocky old look of the
> Cherokee.
>
> But maybe there are some reliability or performance reasons to spend
> more for a newer Liberty rather than that '99 Cherokee. Gas mileage
> seems about the same. I think the Liberty has a little more ground
> clearance though.
>
> Any thoughts?

philthy

u can buy a dam near new liberty for 16 k

coyotefred@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm hoping you all can help me with a Jeep buying decision. I'm
> trying to decide between a late 90s/early 2000s Cherokee (not the
> Grands, just straight Cherokee) and a 2002 or 2003 Jeep Liberty.
>
> I'd like to spend no more than $16000, and would like to pay
> something less than that (Santa has to pay his bills).
>
> This Jeep would be seeing about 75% paved/highway driving (60
> miles/day), 15% lousy gravel, rock and "gumbo" county roads and
> pasture 2-track (including the 4-mile gumbo stretch to my house), and a
> little moderate "off-roading" now and then (by necessity rather
> than choice) for hunting and fishing trips.
>
> I'm only looking at Cherokees and Libertys with Selec-trac, since I
> want the option of full-time4WD for mixed driving conditions on our
> highways during winter.
>
> Bottom-line I need to decide whether it is worth it to spend another
> $5-$6000 for Liberty. For example, I can get a '99 Selec-trac
> Cherokee in great shape with 62K miles for around $9000. Or I can
> spend around $16,000 for a 2003 Liberty with Selec-trac.
>
> It seems to me that I'd be paying for lots of appearance and
> "comfort" stuff with the Liberty that I'm not particularly
> interested in. I actually like the simple and blocky old look of the
> Cherokee.
>
> But maybe there are some reliability or performance reasons to spend
> more for a newer Liberty rather than that '99 Cherokee. Gas mileage
> seems about the same. I think the Liberty has a little more ground
> clearance though.
>
> Any thoughts?

philthy

u can buy a dam near new liberty for 16 k

coyotefred@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm hoping you all can help me with a Jeep buying decision. I'm
> trying to decide between a late 90s/early 2000s Cherokee (not the
> Grands, just straight Cherokee) and a 2002 or 2003 Jeep Liberty.
>
> I'd like to spend no more than $16000, and would like to pay
> something less than that (Santa has to pay his bills).
>
> This Jeep would be seeing about 75% paved/highway driving (60
> miles/day), 15% lousy gravel, rock and "gumbo" county roads and
> pasture 2-track (including the 4-mile gumbo stretch to my house), and a
> little moderate "off-roading" now and then (by necessity rather
> than choice) for hunting and fishing trips.
>
> I'm only looking at Cherokees and Libertys with Selec-trac, since I
> want the option of full-time4WD for mixed driving conditions on our
> highways during winter.
>
> Bottom-line I need to decide whether it is worth it to spend another
> $5-$6000 for Liberty. For example, I can get a '99 Selec-trac
> Cherokee in great shape with 62K miles for around $9000. Or I can
> spend around $16,000 for a 2003 Liberty with Selec-trac.
>
> It seems to me that I'd be paying for lots of appearance and
> "comfort" stuff with the Liberty that I'm not particularly
> interested in. I actually like the simple and blocky old look of the
> Cherokee.
>
> But maybe there are some reliability or performance reasons to spend
> more for a newer Liberty rather than that '99 Cherokee. Gas mileage
> seems about the same. I think the Liberty has a little more ground
> clearance though.
>
> Any thoughts?

KJ.Kate

<coyotefred@gmail.com> wrote in message
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:I respect what you're saying, but at this point my main prinicple is to
: find a durable, reliable vehicle that can do what I want for something
: I can afford--whatever the pedigree :) I want a competent full-time
: 4wd system for the mixed ice/snow/dry pavement conditions I sometimes
: find myself driving in, but there also plenty of times when I want the
: added traction of traditional part-time 4wd and 4low. If you want all
: three options in the same rig that removes a bunch of possible choices
: from the list--at least for vehicles in my price range :)
:
Oh --- I understand completely!
Those are the VERY reasons I chose the Libby.

I have owned two CJs in my past life, and found them to be a lot of fun, but
not much for a daily driver.
As far as features, obviously the Libby will be better accomidated, but the
Cherokkee is a helluva nice rig. I have nothing bad to say about the, I
wanted one for a long time, and was looking for one when I found that they
had been picked out of the herd and replaced with the KJ....

Not wanting a used rig, I got the Liberty. In your case, Like I said, you
already know what you want, so go find a good one and get er done!

:)

Kate

KJ.Kate

<coyotefred@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135207424.417859.40260@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
:I respect what you're saying, but at this point my main prinicple is to
: find a durable, reliable vehicle that can do what I want for something
: I can afford--whatever the pedigree :) I want a competent full-time
: 4wd system for the mixed ice/snow/dry pavement conditions I sometimes
: find myself driving in, but there also plenty of times when I want the
: added traction of traditional part-time 4wd and 4low. If you want all
: three options in the same rig that removes a bunch of possible choices
: from the list--at least for vehicles in my price range :)
:
Oh --- I understand completely!
Those are the VERY reasons I chose the Libby.

I have owned two CJs in my past life, and found them to be a lot of fun, but
not much for a daily driver.
As far as features, obviously the Libby will be better accomidated, but the
Cherokkee is a helluva nice rig. I have nothing bad to say about the, I
wanted one for a long time, and was looking for one when I found that they
had been picked out of the herd and replaced with the KJ....

Not wanting a used rig, I got the Liberty. In your case, Like I said, you
already know what you want, so go find a good one and get er done!

:)

Kate

KJ.Kate

<coyotefred@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135207424.417859.40260@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
:I respect what you're saying, but at this point my main prinicple is to
: find a durable, reliable vehicle that can do what I want for something
: I can afford--whatever the pedigree :) I want a competent full-time
: 4wd system for the mixed ice/snow/dry pavement conditions I sometimes
: find myself driving in, but there also plenty of times when I want the
: added traction of traditional part-time 4wd and 4low. If you want all
: three options in the same rig that removes a bunch of possible choices
: from the list--at least for vehicles in my price range :)
:
Oh --- I understand completely!
Those are the VERY reasons I chose the Libby.

I have owned two CJs in my past life, and found them to be a lot of fun, but
not much for a daily driver.
As far as features, obviously the Libby will be better accomidated, but the
Cherokkee is a helluva nice rig. I have nothing bad to say about the, I
wanted one for a long time, and was looking for one when I found that they
had been picked out of the herd and replaced with the KJ....

Not wanting a used rig, I got the Liberty. In your case, Like I said, you
already know what you want, so go find a good one and get er done!

:)

Kate

billy ray

Why would you consider a Liberty and not a ZJ or WJ Grand Cherokees?

That you are considering a Liberty implies to me that you have interest in
more than just a utilitarian vehicle.

If your interest is to upgrade the vehicle for more off-road you will find
ZJ parts plentiful and ZJs went to Select-Trac as the standard autobox in, I
believe, '96.

As for your budget you can buy a lot for $16k.

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"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
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>u can buy a dam near new liberty for 16 k
>
> coyotefred@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm hoping you all can help me with a Jeep buying decision. I'm
>> trying to decide between a late 90s/early 2000s Cherokee (not the
>> Grands, just straight Cherokee) and a 2002 or 2003 Jeep Liberty.
>>
>> I'd like to spend no more than $16000, and would like to pay
>> something less than that (Santa has to pay his bills).
>>
>> This Jeep would be seeing about 75% paved/highway driving (60
>> miles/day), 15% lousy gravel, rock and "gumbo" county roads and
>> pasture 2-track (including the 4-mile gumbo stretch to my house), and a
>> little moderate "off-roading" now and then (by necessity rather
>> than choice) for hunting and fishing trips.
>>
>> I'm only looking at Cherokees and Libertys with Selec-trac, since I
>> want the option of full-time4WD for mixed driving conditions on our
>> highways during winter.
>>
>> Bottom-line I need to decide whether it is worth it to spend another
>> $5-$6000 for Liberty. For example, I can get a '99 Selec-trac
>> Cherokee in great shape with 62K miles for around $9000. Or I can
>> spend around $16,000 for a 2003 Liberty with Selec-trac.
>>
>> It seems to me that I'd be paying for lots of appearance and
>> "comfort" stuff with the Liberty that I'm not particularly
>> interested in. I actually like the simple and blocky old look of the
>> Cherokee.
>>
>> But maybe there are some reliability or performance reasons to spend
>> more for a newer Liberty rather than that '99 Cherokee. Gas mileage
>> seems about the same. I think the Liberty has a little more ground
>> clearance though.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>