Chased a thief
#31
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Re: Chased a thief
they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
"kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you stick
the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
key...
For your edification:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/kryptonite.asp
n.
"Ben" <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote in message
news:X3gdd.80334$VJ2.53900@fe40.usenetserver.com.. .
> Yeah.. I should have thought about it more.. I wish I still had my guns..
> I had to sell them when I got laid off a few years ago and have never
> replaced them... As for tonight, the Jeep is already in the garage.. I
> found these devices at Quadratec and was wondering if they are worth
> installing..
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04101917525468
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
> 95 YJ 2.5L
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:gV6dd.74609$tU4.56034@okepread06...
>> Ben did pass the time by typing:
>>> Well, I got woke up by my wife this morning to chase a man off trying to
>>> steal the half doors off my YJ.. I can't believe the nerve of some
>>> sphinkter
>>> trying to steal my half doors off my Jeep in my driveway at 2AM... I
>>> guess
>>> it is time to start parking it in the garage... Which means I have to
>>> clean
>>> the garage.. LOL
>>> Oh well, just a warning to all Jeep owners... Protect you Jeep!!!
>>
>> Glad to hear your ok and the thief didn't make off with your property.
>>
>> <now I'm going to rant a bit, it's not directed at you.>
>>
>> It's all good and well to think about chasing down a thief, but
>> remember that SOB may be armed or drugged from next day to tuesday.
>> No property is worth your life.
>>
>> Safest thing anyone can do is install exterior motion-detecting lights.
>> Thieves hate light, the mear thought of someone knowing they are there
>> is usually enough to make them find someplace else.
>>
>> Car alarms also help. Although it's not going to stop them all, even
>> a blinky light will make your vehicle less appealing. But don't confuse
>> that with the "security stickers" sold at stores. Thieves know what the
>> fake ones look like too, and use that as a sign the owner doesn't have
>> an alarm.
>>
>> Or move to Texas where it's legal to shoot a thief at night. Just don't
>> poke a hole in your jeep and watch the splatter. :)
>>
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>
>
>
down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
"kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you stick
the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
key...
For your edification:
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/kryptonite.asp
n.
"Ben" <bmccunenospam@knology.net> wrote in message
news:X3gdd.80334$VJ2.53900@fe40.usenetserver.com.. .
> Yeah.. I should have thought about it more.. I wish I still had my guns..
> I had to sell them when I got laid off a few years ago and have never
> replaced them... As for tonight, the Jeep is already in the garage.. I
> found these devices at Quadratec and was wondering if they are worth
> installing..
>
> http://www.quadratec.com/cgi-bin/sgi...04101917525468
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
> 95 YJ 2.5L
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:gV6dd.74609$tU4.56034@okepread06...
>> Ben did pass the time by typing:
>>> Well, I got woke up by my wife this morning to chase a man off trying to
>>> steal the half doors off my YJ.. I can't believe the nerve of some
>>> sphinkter
>>> trying to steal my half doors off my Jeep in my driveway at 2AM... I
>>> guess
>>> it is time to start parking it in the garage... Which means I have to
>>> clean
>>> the garage.. LOL
>>> Oh well, just a warning to all Jeep owners... Protect you Jeep!!!
>>
>> Glad to hear your ok and the thief didn't make off with your property.
>>
>> <now I'm going to rant a bit, it's not directed at you.>
>>
>> It's all good and well to think about chasing down a thief, but
>> remember that SOB may be armed or drugged from next day to tuesday.
>> No property is worth your life.
>>
>> Safest thing anyone can do is install exterior motion-detecting lights.
>> Thieves hate light, the mear thought of someone knowing they are there
>> is usually enough to make them find someplace else.
>>
>> Car alarms also help. Although it's not going to stop them all, even
>> a blinky light will make your vehicle less appealing. But don't confuse
>> that with the "security stickers" sold at stores. Thieves know what the
>> fake ones look like too, and use that as a sign the owner doesn't have
>> an alarm.
>>
>> Or move to Texas where it's legal to shoot a thief at night. Just don't
>> poke a hole in your jeep and watch the splatter. :)
>>
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>
>
>
>
#32
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Re: Chased a thief
Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
....puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
into the lock like a small clamp head).
As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
it out ...
NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:2tm7nvF212rp3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
> down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
> "kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
> news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you
stick
> the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
> key...
opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
....puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
into the lock like a small clamp head).
As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
it out ...
NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:2tm7nvF212rp3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
> down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
> "kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
> news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you
stick
> the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
> key...
#33
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Re: Chased a thief
Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
....puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
into the lock like a small clamp head).
As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
it out ...
NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:2tm7nvF212rp3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
> down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
> "kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
> news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you
stick
> the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
> key...
opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
....puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
into the lock like a small clamp head).
As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
it out ...
NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:2tm7nvF212rp3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
> down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
> "kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
> news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you
stick
> the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
> key...
#34
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Re: Chased a thief
Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
....puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
into the lock like a small clamp head).
As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
it out ...
NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:2tm7nvF212rp3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
> down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
> "kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
> news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you
stick
> the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
> key...
opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
....puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
into the lock like a small clamp head).
As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
it out ...
NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
"Nathan Otis" <na@smeat.spam.net> wrote in message
news:2tm7nvF212rp3U1@uni-berlin.de...
> they will only deter a casual theif. If he want's it, those will slow him
> down for, oh... about 20 seconds. The locking mechanism is like those
> "kryptonite" type bike locks. You know the ones... they're all over the
> news for their heralded unpickability... Someone realized that if you
stick
> the open end of a bic pen in the lock, it opens like you have the master
> key...
#35
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Re: Chased a thief
I've got a few rounds of salt crystal shot next to my shotgun for
these very instances.
"I'm not sure why he's got all those holes in his *** officer, it
doesn't look like there is any lead though. I really wish he'd quit
crying."
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:13:30 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>At risk of getting holes in your Jeep, you could just shoot the bastard and
>go back to bed.
#36
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Re: Chased a thief
I've got a few rounds of salt crystal shot next to my shotgun for
these very instances.
"I'm not sure why he's got all those holes in his *** officer, it
doesn't look like there is any lead though. I really wish he'd quit
crying."
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:13:30 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>At risk of getting holes in your Jeep, you could just shoot the bastard and
>go back to bed.
#37
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Re: Chased a thief
I've got a few rounds of salt crystal shot next to my shotgun for
these very instances.
"I'm not sure why he's got all those holes in his *** officer, it
doesn't look like there is any lead though. I really wish he'd quit
crying."
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:13:30 -0700, "CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>At risk of getting holes in your Jeep, you could just shoot the bastard and
>go back to bed.
#38
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Re: Chased a thief
griffin wrote:
> Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
> opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
> in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
> recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
> tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
> ...puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
> into the lock like a small clamp head).
Even easier than that is to hacksaw through the steering wheel itself. A
sharp saw will cut through most steering wheels quickly, then you just
have to bend ithe wheel away far enough to slip the club off.
>
> As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
> 2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
> car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
> here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
> steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
> dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
> they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
> it out ...
>
> NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
This is true, and that includes the fact that the car can (possibly) be
taken from you by force, which makes the immobilizer worthless. My 80
year old great-aunt was murdered by a 19 year old man for her mid-90's
Honda Accord about 3 years ago. He shot her, put her body in the trunk
and drove around making purchases on her credit cards, all done in broad
daylight and starting from a mall parking lot. Finding him was an easy
job for the police.
The point is, if a criminal wants something badly enough, they will
probably find a way to get it, though not all of them will physically
harm or kill their victim to get it.
Pat
> Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
> opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
> in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
> recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
> tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
> ...puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
> into the lock like a small clamp head).
Even easier than that is to hacksaw through the steering wheel itself. A
sharp saw will cut through most steering wheels quickly, then you just
have to bend ithe wheel away far enough to slip the club off.
>
> As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
> 2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
> car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
> here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
> steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
> dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
> they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
> it out ...
>
> NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
This is true, and that includes the fact that the car can (possibly) be
taken from you by force, which makes the immobilizer worthless. My 80
year old great-aunt was murdered by a 19 year old man for her mid-90's
Honda Accord about 3 years ago. He shot her, put her body in the trunk
and drove around making purchases on her credit cards, all done in broad
daylight and starting from a mall parking lot. Finding him was an easy
job for the police.
The point is, if a criminal wants something badly enough, they will
probably find a way to get it, though not all of them will physically
harm or kill their victim to get it.
Pat
#39
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Re: Chased a thief
griffin wrote:
> Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
> opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
> in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
> recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
> tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
> ...puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
> into the lock like a small clamp head).
Even easier than that is to hacksaw through the steering wheel itself. A
sharp saw will cut through most steering wheels quickly, then you just
have to bend ithe wheel away far enough to slip the club off.
>
> As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
> 2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
> car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
> here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
> steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
> dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
> they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
> it out ...
>
> NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
This is true, and that includes the fact that the car can (possibly) be
taken from you by force, which makes the immobilizer worthless. My 80
year old great-aunt was murdered by a 19 year old man for her mid-90's
Honda Accord about 3 years ago. He shot her, put her body in the trunk
and drove around making purchases on her credit cards, all done in broad
daylight and starting from a mall parking lot. Finding him was an easy
job for the police.
The point is, if a criminal wants something badly enough, they will
probably find a way to get it, though not all of them will physically
harm or kill their victim to get it.
Pat
> Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
> opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
> in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
> recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
> tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
> ...puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
> into the lock like a small clamp head).
Even easier than that is to hacksaw through the steering wheel itself. A
sharp saw will cut through most steering wheels quickly, then you just
have to bend ithe wheel away far enough to slip the club off.
>
> As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
> 2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
> car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
> here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
> steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
> dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
> they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
> it out ...
>
> NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
This is true, and that includes the fact that the car can (possibly) be
taken from you by force, which makes the immobilizer worthless. My 80
year old great-aunt was murdered by a 19 year old man for her mid-90's
Honda Accord about 3 years ago. He shot her, put her body in the trunk
and drove around making purchases on her credit cards, all done in broad
daylight and starting from a mall parking lot. Finding him was an easy
job for the police.
The point is, if a criminal wants something badly enough, they will
probably find a way to get it, though not all of them will physically
harm or kill their victim to get it.
Pat
#40
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Re: Chased a thief
griffin wrote:
> Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
> opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
> in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
> recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
> tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
> ...puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
> into the lock like a small clamp head).
Even easier than that is to hacksaw through the steering wheel itself. A
sharp saw will cut through most steering wheels quickly, then you just
have to bend ithe wheel away far enough to slip the club off.
>
> As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
> 2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
> car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
> here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
> steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
> dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
> they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
> it out ...
>
> NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
This is true, and that includes the fact that the car can (possibly) be
taken from you by force, which makes the immobilizer worthless. My 80
year old great-aunt was murdered by a 19 year old man for her mid-90's
Honda Accord about 3 years ago. He shot her, put her body in the trunk
and drove around making purchases on her credit cards, all done in broad
daylight and starting from a mall parking lot. Finding him was an easy
job for the police.
The point is, if a criminal wants something badly enough, they will
probably find a way to get it, though not all of them will physically
harm or kill their victim to get it.
Pat
> Wow, those are some insane videos they show on a link off that site. The guy
> opened one in like 2 seconds. It was like when they had a rash of car thefts
> in this city ...all of the cars had clubs on the wheels. When the cars were
> recovered, the clubs were laying on the passenger seat. I guess a simple
> tool can snap the lock (looks like a steering wheel puller in reverse
> ...puts pressure on each side of the club arms and then presses down/drills
> into the lock like a small clamp head).
Even easier than that is to hacksaw through the steering wheel itself. A
sharp saw will cut through most steering wheels quickly, then you just
have to bend ithe wheel away far enough to slip the club off.
>
> As for GM's claim that their immobilizers are theft-proof. My friend (owns a
> 2001 Grand Am GT) and his Dad were changing some stereo components in the
> car and figured out a trick for disabling the immobilizer. I won't post it
> here for obvious reasons; however, it would take them under 2 minutes to
> steal any "immobilizer-protected" vehicle. When my buddy called the local GM
> dealer, they told him he was lying. He said he'd go down and show them and
> they declined. Pure arrogance. One day a real car thief is going to figure
> it out ...
>
> NOTHING is theft-proof ...nothing.
This is true, and that includes the fact that the car can (possibly) be
taken from you by force, which makes the immobilizer worthless. My 80
year old great-aunt was murdered by a 19 year old man for her mid-90's
Honda Accord about 3 years ago. He shot her, put her body in the trunk
and drove around making purchases on her credit cards, all done in broad
daylight and starting from a mall parking lot. Finding him was an easy
job for the police.
The point is, if a criminal wants something badly enough, they will
probably find a way to get it, though not all of them will physically
harm or kill their victim to get it.
Pat