L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Sometime too if the hose is long enough you can put R134a can in a pan
> of hot water while trying to draw vapor from it because as liquid
> boils to gas in can it cools it a lot and when this happens the
> pressure in can drops and slows things down a lot on charging. The
> idea of flipping can as above is not a bad idea as I do it but limit
> is to a few seconds or so at a time so you do not get a slug of liquid
> in compressor.
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Sometime too if the hose is long enough you can put R134a can in a pan
> of hot water while trying to draw vapor from it because as liquid
> boils to gas in can it cools it a lot and when this happens the
> pressure in can drops and slows things down a lot on charging. The
> idea of flipping can as above is not a bad idea as I do it but limit
> is to a few seconds or so at a time so you do not get a slug of liquid
> in compressor.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:jfe343pbhp4st4jp9fg0knd7gv865h1004@4ax.com
>
>
> Sometime too if the hose is long enough you can put R134a can in a pan
> of hot water while trying to draw vapor from it because as liquid
> boils to gas in can it cools it a lot and when this happens the
> pressure in can drops and slows things down a lot on charging. The
> idea of flipping can as above is not a bad idea as I do it but limit
> is to a few seconds or so at a time so you do not get a slug of liquid
> in compressor.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com



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N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:43:24 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.

That is illegal in 37 states, including California.

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-- Nancy ------ III



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N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:43:24 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.

That is illegal in 37 states, including California.

--
"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"

-- Nancy ------ III



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N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:43:24 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.

That is illegal in 37 states, including California.

--
"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"

-- Nancy ------ III



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N. (Nancy) Huge IIIII

On Wed, 09 May 2007 15:43:24 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> In a class, we were allowed to shake it upright.

That is illegal in 37 states, including California.

--
"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"

-- Nancy ------ III



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Jeff Strickland

I bought a double size can of juice that included a hose and guage. The
directions were printed on the can, and they said to juice the system up to
about 50 psi for the current temp at my house. Completely counter to the
luck that runs in my family, the can was empty just as the spec was met.

As soon as the pressure came back, the compressor clutch kicked on and
remained on, and the cabin air temp hovered at about 50°F.





"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1i90i.8227$HR1.3924@trnddc01...
> The AC compressor clutch cycles on for about 2 seconds then off for about
> 3 seconds then repeats. It never blows cold. It worked fine a few days
> ago, so this is a sudden onset of symptoms.
>
> I have R134a. I also have a guage that plugs onto the Low Pressure Port.
> The sad thing is that I've not used it for a few years and I forgot how.
>
> I have to connect either the guage or the fitting that connects to the can
> of stuff, but I can not connect both at the same time. I think I have to
> take a pressure reading to make sure it is low. My guage has GRN, BLU,
> YEL, and RED sections. Green is 0 to 25psi, blue is 25 to 45, yellow is 45
> to 46, and red is anything above 65, the guage limit is 200.
>
> I need to re-understand the directions.
>
> I _think_ I want the needle to be in the blue area or yellow area, but by
> no means in the red or green areas. I have not checked yet, but I suspect
> it currently is in the green area. Once I ensure that the pressure is
> indeed low, then I can add a can of R134. One can should bring the
> pressure to 45ish psi.
>
> I _think_ what is happening now is that my pressure is right on the line,
> and when the compressor kicks in, the result is pressure drop below the
> threshold of the Low Pressure Switch, so the compressor kicks out. This
> causes the pressure to rise and satisfy the Low Pressure Switch, so the
> compressor kicks on again. The problem repeats from there, and the
> compressor clutch kicks on and off due to activity of the Low Pressure
> Switch.
>
> I've owned the vehicle for a year, and have done virtually nothing to it.
> It has worked perfectly until today, when the AC elected to go offline. I
> have no reason to suspect a leak at this time, but if the can of r134 does
> not do the trick, then I'll need to take it somewhere for service.
>
> All I can do to the AC system is put the stuff in, and I have to ask to be
> sure I have the process right.
>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

I bought a double size can of juice that included a hose and guage. The
directions were printed on the can, and they said to juice the system up to
about 50 psi for the current temp at my house. Completely counter to the
luck that runs in my family, the can was empty just as the spec was met.

As soon as the pressure came back, the compressor clutch kicked on and
remained on, and the cabin air temp hovered at about 50°F.





"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1i90i.8227$HR1.3924@trnddc01...
> The AC compressor clutch cycles on for about 2 seconds then off for about
> 3 seconds then repeats. It never blows cold. It worked fine a few days
> ago, so this is a sudden onset of symptoms.
>
> I have R134a. I also have a guage that plugs onto the Low Pressure Port.
> The sad thing is that I've not used it for a few years and I forgot how.
>
> I have to connect either the guage or the fitting that connects to the can
> of stuff, but I can not connect both at the same time. I think I have to
> take a pressure reading to make sure it is low. My guage has GRN, BLU,
> YEL, and RED sections. Green is 0 to 25psi, blue is 25 to 45, yellow is 45
> to 46, and red is anything above 65, the guage limit is 200.
>
> I need to re-understand the directions.
>
> I _think_ I want the needle to be in the blue area or yellow area, but by
> no means in the red or green areas. I have not checked yet, but I suspect
> it currently is in the green area. Once I ensure that the pressure is
> indeed low, then I can add a can of R134. One can should bring the
> pressure to 45ish psi.
>
> I _think_ what is happening now is that my pressure is right on the line,
> and when the compressor kicks in, the result is pressure drop below the
> threshold of the Low Pressure Switch, so the compressor kicks out. This
> causes the pressure to rise and satisfy the Low Pressure Switch, so the
> compressor kicks on again. The problem repeats from there, and the
> compressor clutch kicks on and off due to activity of the Low Pressure
> Switch.
>
> I've owned the vehicle for a year, and have done virtually nothing to it.
> It has worked perfectly until today, when the AC elected to go offline. I
> have no reason to suspect a leak at this time, but if the can of r134 does
> not do the trick, then I'll need to take it somewhere for service.
>
> All I can do to the AC system is put the stuff in, and I have to ask to be
> sure I have the process right.
>
>
>

Jeff Strickland

I bought a double size can of juice that included a hose and guage. The
directions were printed on the can, and they said to juice the system up to
about 50 psi for the current temp at my house. Completely counter to the
luck that runs in my family, the can was empty just as the spec was met.

As soon as the pressure came back, the compressor clutch kicked on and
remained on, and the cabin air temp hovered at about 50°F.





"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1i90i.8227$HR1.3924@trnddc01...
> The AC compressor clutch cycles on for about 2 seconds then off for about
> 3 seconds then repeats. It never blows cold. It worked fine a few days
> ago, so this is a sudden onset of symptoms.
>
> I have R134a. I also have a guage that plugs onto the Low Pressure Port.
> The sad thing is that I've not used it for a few years and I forgot how.
>
> I have to connect either the guage or the fitting that connects to the can
> of stuff, but I can not connect both at the same time. I think I have to
> take a pressure reading to make sure it is low. My guage has GRN, BLU,
> YEL, and RED sections. Green is 0 to 25psi, blue is 25 to 45, yellow is 45
> to 46, and red is anything above 65, the guage limit is 200.
>
> I need to re-understand the directions.
>
> I _think_ I want the needle to be in the blue area or yellow area, but by
> no means in the red or green areas. I have not checked yet, but I suspect
> it currently is in the green area. Once I ensure that the pressure is
> indeed low, then I can add a can of R134. One can should bring the
> pressure to 45ish psi.
>
> I _think_ what is happening now is that my pressure is right on the line,
> and when the compressor kicks in, the result is pressure drop below the
> threshold of the Low Pressure Switch, so the compressor kicks out. This
> causes the pressure to rise and satisfy the Low Pressure Switch, so the
> compressor kicks on again. The problem repeats from there, and the
> compressor clutch kicks on and off due to activity of the Low Pressure
> Switch.
>
> I've owned the vehicle for a year, and have done virtually nothing to it.
> It has worked perfectly until today, when the AC elected to go offline. I
> have no reason to suspect a leak at this time, but if the can of r134 does
> not do the trick, then I'll need to take it somewhere for service.
>
> All I can do to the AC system is put the stuff in, and I have to ask to be
> sure I have the process right.
>
>
>