Ahoyskpr

Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new Sahara
says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced clearance with
the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter? Please
try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps don't....!"


Happy Holidays

JimG

4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have you
not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
(11-24-03) you may want to read

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R


"Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
Sahara
> says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced clearance
with
> the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
Please
> try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
don't....!"
>
>
> Happy Holidays

JimG

4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have you
not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
(11-24-03) you may want to read

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R


"Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
Sahara
> says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced clearance
with
> the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
Please
> try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
don't....!"
>
>
> Happy Holidays

JimG

4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have you
not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
(11-24-03) you may want to read

--
JimG
80' CJ-7, 258 CID
35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
4.56 D30-D44 SOA
D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
LockRight F&R


"Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
Sahara
> says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced clearance
with
> the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
Please
> try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
don't....!"
>
>
> Happy Holidays

fletcher

I carry chains on my "Real" CJ-7 I have to admit that the only time they
have been installed was in the driveway to make sure they fit right.
However I would rather lay on my belly in the snow and mud for 20 minutes
putting on chains than to make a long walk out of someplace.



"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:9S%Db.14333$2t1.11006@news02.roc.ny...
> 4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
> it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have
you
> not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
> (11-24-03) you may want to read
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
>
> "Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
> Sahara
> > says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced
clearance
> with
> > the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
> Please
> > try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
> don't....!"
> >
> >
> > Happy Holidays
>
>

fletcher

I carry chains on my "Real" CJ-7 I have to admit that the only time they
have been installed was in the driveway to make sure they fit right.
However I would rather lay on my belly in the snow and mud for 20 minutes
putting on chains than to make a long walk out of someplace.



"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:9S%Db.14333$2t1.11006@news02.roc.ny...
> 4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
> it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have
you
> not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
> (11-24-03) you may want to read
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
>
> "Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
> Sahara
> > says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced
clearance
> with
> > the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
> Please
> > try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
> don't....!"
> >
> >
> > Happy Holidays
>
>

fletcher

I carry chains on my "Real" CJ-7 I have to admit that the only time they
have been installed was in the driveway to make sure they fit right.
However I would rather lay on my belly in the snow and mud for 20 minutes
putting on chains than to make a long walk out of someplace.



"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:9S%Db.14333$2t1.11006@news02.roc.ny...
> 4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
> it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have
you
> not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
> (11-24-03) you may want to read
>
> --
> JimG
> 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> LockRight F&R
>
>
> "Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
> Sahara
> > says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced
clearance
> with
> > the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
> Please
> > try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
> don't....!"
> >
> >
> > Happy Holidays
>
>

Mike Romain

In my experience if you can't get out in 4x4, chains aren't likely to
help unless it is glass ice and even then.....

I have seen several folks try to use chains on runs I have been on.
Once in the spring in mud and the other times in snow with a soft bottom
in places and the 'all' had serious issues getting anywhere at all.

Man those sets of chains dug holes so fast my dog was drooling with
jealousy.... And he was a 150 lb terrier cross that 'liked' trying to
find his way to China. Seriously, he got out and tried to help the
tires dig more when they stopped spitting mud. It was pretty funny.

We had to tell them to either park it and run shotgun or take the damn
chains off or at least get at the end of the row so no one has to pull
you out until the trip back....

I have gotten out from a winter camp 15 miles back on snowmobile/logging
trails with 1" of glare ice on top of slush in a flash freeze
situation. We couldn't walk on the trail, but the Cherokee with BFG
AT's could crawl it in 1st low with amazing control. I ran a 100 yd.
empty first just to see if I could, did a 5 point turn and came back and
filled it with gear, a couple duffels on the roof and 4 adult sized
people and it just purred along.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

fletcher wrote:
>
> I carry chains on my "Real" CJ-7 I have to admit that the only time they
> have been installed was in the driveway to make sure they fit right.
> However I would rather lay on my belly in the snow and mud for 20 minutes
> putting on chains than to make a long walk out of someplace.
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:9S%Db.14333$2t1.11006@news02.roc.ny...
> > 4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
> > it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have
> you
> > not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
> > (11-24-03) you may want to read
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> >
> > "Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > > Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
> > Sahara
> > > says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced
> clearance
> > with
> > > the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
> > Please
> > > try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
> > don't....!"
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays
> >
> >

Mike Romain

In my experience if you can't get out in 4x4, chains aren't likely to
help unless it is glass ice and even then.....

I have seen several folks try to use chains on runs I have been on.
Once in the spring in mud and the other times in snow with a soft bottom
in places and the 'all' had serious issues getting anywhere at all.

Man those sets of chains dug holes so fast my dog was drooling with
jealousy.... And he was a 150 lb terrier cross that 'liked' trying to
find his way to China. Seriously, he got out and tried to help the
tires dig more when they stopped spitting mud. It was pretty funny.

We had to tell them to either park it and run shotgun or take the damn
chains off or at least get at the end of the row so no one has to pull
you out until the trip back....

I have gotten out from a winter camp 15 miles back on snowmobile/logging
trails with 1" of glare ice on top of slush in a flash freeze
situation. We couldn't walk on the trail, but the Cherokee with BFG
AT's could crawl it in 1st low with amazing control. I ran a 100 yd.
empty first just to see if I could, did a 5 point turn and came back and
filled it with gear, a couple duffels on the roof and 4 adult sized
people and it just purred along.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

fletcher wrote:
>
> I carry chains on my "Real" CJ-7 I have to admit that the only time they
> have been installed was in the driveway to make sure they fit right.
> However I would rather lay on my belly in the snow and mud for 20 minutes
> putting on chains than to make a long walk out of someplace.
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:9S%Db.14333$2t1.11006@news02.roc.ny...
> > 4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
> > it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have
> you
> > not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
> > (11-24-03) you may want to read
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> >
> > "Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > > Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
> > Sahara
> > > says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced
> clearance
> > with
> > > the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
> > Please
> > > try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
> > don't....!"
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays
> >
> >

Mike Romain

In my experience if you can't get out in 4x4, chains aren't likely to
help unless it is glass ice and even then.....

I have seen several folks try to use chains on runs I have been on.
Once in the spring in mud and the other times in snow with a soft bottom
in places and the 'all' had serious issues getting anywhere at all.

Man those sets of chains dug holes so fast my dog was drooling with
jealousy.... And he was a 150 lb terrier cross that 'liked' trying to
find his way to China. Seriously, he got out and tried to help the
tires dig more when they stopped spitting mud. It was pretty funny.

We had to tell them to either park it and run shotgun or take the damn
chains off or at least get at the end of the row so no one has to pull
you out until the trip back....

I have gotten out from a winter camp 15 miles back on snowmobile/logging
trails with 1" of glare ice on top of slush in a flash freeze
situation. We couldn't walk on the trail, but the Cherokee with BFG
AT's could crawl it in 1st low with amazing control. I ran a 100 yd.
empty first just to see if I could, did a 5 point turn and came back and
filled it with gear, a couple duffels on the roof and 4 adult sized
people and it just purred along.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

fletcher wrote:
>
> I carry chains on my "Real" CJ-7 I have to admit that the only time they
> have been installed was in the driveway to make sure they fit right.
> However I would rather lay on my belly in the snow and mud for 20 minutes
> putting on chains than to make a long walk out of someplace.
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:9S%Db.14333$2t1.11006@news02.roc.ny...
> > 4WD vehicles (including Jeeps) don't need chains or studs. Being a Sahara
> > it may have the Trac-Lock rear, that along with front wheel help. Have
> you
> > not driven it snow yet? There is an earlier thread on this subject
> > (11-24-03) you may want to read
> >
> > --
> > JimG
> > 80' CJ-7, 258 CID
> > 35" BFG MT's on 15x10 Centerlines
> > 4.56 D30-D44 SOA
> > D300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > Warn 8000i w/dual batteries
> > LockRight F&R
> >
> >
> > "Ahoyskpr" <ahoyskpr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20031217111253.19816.00000423@mb-m01.aol.com...
> > > Arggg...not that I anticipate needing them but... The manual for my new
> > Sahara
> > > says not to use snow chains. I guess it's because of the reduced
> clearance
> > with
> > > the 30" tires. Any thoughts on this other than running studs all winter?
> > Please
> > > try to keep the humor to a dull roar. I know all about, "real jeeps
> > don't....!"
> > >
> > >
> > > Happy Holidays
> >
> >