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CB Radio or PRS
Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our
anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My question is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground plain for the antennae to attain full gain. My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards winter. Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the
trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:c5a0jp$kf6$4@news.wave.co.nz... > Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW > |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the
trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:c5a0jp$kf6$4@news.wave.co.nz... > Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW > |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the
trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:c5a0jp$kf6$4@news.wave.co.nz... > Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW > |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the
trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n z> wrote in message news:c5a0jp$kf6$4@news.wave.co.nz... > Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW > |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW wrote:
> Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My > question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than a great radio and a cheap antenna. What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a CB. Just a thought. Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW wrote:
> Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My > question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than a great radio and a cheap antenna. What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a CB. Just a thought. Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW wrote:
> Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My > question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than a great radio and a cheap antenna. What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a CB. Just a thought. Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW wrote:
> Hi All, I have just been offered a radio for my TJ by my DW as our > anniversary present. She wants me to buy it in the next week. My > question > is should I go with a CB Radio or a PRS? I intend to mount it permanently > and not get he handheld variety. Some of the trail areas around here have > no cell phone coverage, so a two-way radio is very handy. I asked a > retailer here and he said PRS would have no problems with an external > mounted antennae. According to him, CBs need the roof to act a ground > plain for the antennae to attain full gain. > > My idea was to mount the antennae either on the front or the rare bumper. > I do have a hardtop, which I intend to keep as we are now moving towards > winter. > > Thanks in advance for all the wonderful ideas and expertise. > TW Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than a great radio and a cheap antenna. What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a CB. Just a thought. Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message
news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman > > 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. Heh, remember the "Jesus nut" on your RVN-era Huey? ;) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message
news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman > > 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. Heh, remember the "Jesus nut" on your RVN-era Huey? ;) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message
news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman > > 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. Heh, remember the "Jesus nut" on your RVN-era Huey? ;) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message
news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > Lessons of a Vietnam Helicopter Crewman > > 26. If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. Heh, remember the "Jesus nut" on your RVN-era Huey? ;) Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address N6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Charlie wrote:
> Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be much more of a pleasant communication device to use. Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, with such a low wattage is beyond me. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. While true, it's going to be hard to convince your contact in Japan to come and pull out your rig. :) > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
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Charlie wrote:
> Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be much more of a pleasant communication device to use. Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, with such a low wattage is beyond me. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. While true, it's going to be hard to convince your contact in Japan to come and pull out your rig. :) > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Charlie wrote:
> Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be much more of a pleasant communication device to use. Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, with such a low wattage is beyond me. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. While true, it's going to be hard to convince your contact in Japan to come and pull out your rig. :) > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
Charlie wrote:
> Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be much more of a pleasant communication device to use. Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, with such a low wattage is beyond me. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. While true, it's going to be hard to convince your contact in Japan to come and pull out your rig. :) > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5" 01 XJ Sport There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." -- Dave Barry Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940 Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase') A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase, 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II. (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:PK0ec.6230$Pw1.1167@fed1read05... > Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the > trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and > organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > N6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > Thanks Jerry. Our club does not list CBs as mandatory equipment, but as "good to have". I rarely go alone out that far simply because I don't have a winch to get myself out of trouble. Till that time I will mostly go for club runs or with buddies. I am leaning towards a CB, but the FRS/PRS are so small in size comparatively that it would be easy to fit just about anywhere. Locally, both CBs and PRS are a max 5W power units and can be had with external antenna. TW |
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"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:PK0ec.6230$Pw1.1167@fed1read05... > Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the > trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and > organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > N6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > Thanks Jerry. Our club does not list CBs as mandatory equipment, but as "good to have". I rarely go alone out that far simply because I don't have a winch to get myself out of trouble. Till that time I will mostly go for club runs or with buddies. I am leaning towards a CB, but the FRS/PRS are so small in size comparatively that it would be easy to fit just about anywhere. Locally, both CBs and PRS are a max 5W power units and can be had with external antenna. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:PK0ec.6230$Pw1.1167@fed1read05... > Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the > trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and > organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > N6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > Thanks Jerry. Our club does not list CBs as mandatory equipment, but as "good to have". I rarely go alone out that far simply because I don't have a winch to get myself out of trouble. Till that time I will mostly go for club runs or with buddies. I am leaning towards a CB, but the FRS/PRS are so small in size comparatively that it would be easy to fit just about anywhere. Locally, both CBs and PRS are a max 5W power units and can be had with external antenna. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:PK0ec.6230$Pw1.1167@fed1read05... > Definitely go with a CB since that is what is most commonly used on the > trail between Jeepers, especially on organized trail runs. Most clubs and > organized trail rides list a CB on the mandatory equipment list. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > N6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > Thanks Jerry. Our club does not list CBs as mandatory equipment, but as "good to have". I rarely go alone out that far simply because I don't have a winch to get myself out of trouble. Till that time I will mostly go for club runs or with buddies. I am leaning towards a CB, but the FRS/PRS are so small in size comparatively that it would be easy to fit just about anywhere. Locally, both CBs and PRS are a max 5W power units and can be had with external antenna. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > > Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. > > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. > HAM license..... Thats a touchy subject for me. I have been reading up on it and it looks very interesting. However, I don't know how practical it would be to install it in the TJ. I might get a unit and put it in the basement for personal enjoyment. We can get external antenna with FRS/PRSs in NZ. One of the local suppliers is importing units from Australia (www.gme.com.au) and Uniden. I like Uniden's X150 Pro at this stage. I was worried about lack of metal roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close proximity) or in the back? Thanks TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > > Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. > > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. > HAM license..... Thats a touchy subject for me. I have been reading up on it and it looks very interesting. However, I don't know how practical it would be to install it in the TJ. I might get a unit and put it in the basement for personal enjoyment. We can get external antenna with FRS/PRSs in NZ. One of the local suppliers is importing units from Australia (www.gme.com.au) and Uniden. I like Uniden's X150 Pro at this stage. I was worried about lack of metal roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close proximity) or in the back? Thanks TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > > Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. > > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. > HAM license..... Thats a touchy subject for me. I have been reading up on it and it looks very interesting. However, I don't know how practical it would be to install it in the TJ. I might get a unit and put it in the basement for personal enjoyment. We can get external antenna with FRS/PRSs in NZ. One of the local suppliers is importing units from Australia (www.gme.com.au) and Uniden. I like Uniden's X150 Pro at this stage. I was worried about lack of metal roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close proximity) or in the back? Thanks TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Charlie" <nospam@all.com> wrote in message news:_b1ec.6258$Pw1.3014@fed1read05... > > Of those two the CB would probably be better. Generally it will have more > range that the PRS(FRS here in the US). Also, here at least, I don't think > you can use an external antenna with an FRS radio. If you get a CB, get the > best antenna you can. A cheap radio and a good antenna is a lot better than > a great radio and a cheap antenna. > > What Jerry said about the CB for club runs in true. If, however, you are > going to be out by yourself and want a radio to call help if needed I would > suggest you consider getting a HAM license and go that route. With the HF > radios especially you can talk a lot farther than you usually can with a > CB. Just a thought. > > Remember though. Antenna. GOOD antenna. > HAM license..... Thats a touchy subject for me. I have been reading up on it and it looks very interesting. However, I don't know how practical it would be to install it in the TJ. I might get a unit and put it in the basement for personal enjoyment. We can get external antenna with FRS/PRSs in NZ. One of the local suppliers is importing units from Australia (www.gme.com.au) and Uniden. I like Uniden's X150 Pro at this stage. I was worried about lack of metal roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close proximity) or in the back? Thanks TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Wt1ec.14589$w8.11923@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om... > > I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is > UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to > wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be > much more of a pleasant communication device to use. > Thats what the guy said, PRS/FRSs are clearer because they are UHF. Also the units are smaller in physical size. But I am still leaning towards a CB because of AM signal not requiring line of sight for attain maximum result. > > My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the > signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory > attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing > with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, > with such a low wattage is beyond me. > In NZ, PRS/FRSs can be had with external antennas which can be mounted anywhere on the rig. There is no restriction as such. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Wt1ec.14589$w8.11923@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om... > > I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is > UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to > wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be > much more of a pleasant communication device to use. > Thats what the guy said, PRS/FRSs are clearer because they are UHF. Also the units are smaller in physical size. But I am still leaning towards a CB because of AM signal not requiring line of sight for attain maximum result. > > My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the > signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory > attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing > with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, > with such a low wattage is beyond me. > In NZ, PRS/FRSs can be had with external antennas which can be mounted anywhere on the rig. There is no restriction as such. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Wt1ec.14589$w8.11923@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om... > > I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is > UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to > wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be > much more of a pleasant communication device to use. > Thats what the guy said, PRS/FRSs are clearer because they are UHF. Also the units are smaller in physical size. But I am still leaning towards a CB because of AM signal not requiring line of sight for attain maximum result. > > My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the > signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory > attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing > with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, > with such a low wattage is beyond me. > In NZ, PRS/FRSs can be had with external antennas which can be mounted anywhere on the rig. There is no restriction as such. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Wt1ec.14589$w8.11923@newssvr22.news.prodigy.c om... > > I get about the same reliable range from my FRS as my CB. The FRS is > UHF/FM and therefore line of sight, where the HF/AM CB should tend to > wrap the terrain a little better. I have/use both. I find the FRS to be > much more of a pleasant communication device to use. > Thats what the guy said, PRS/FRSs are clearer because they are UHF. Also the units are smaller in physical size. But I am still leaning towards a CB because of AM signal not requiring line of sight for attain maximum result. > > My FRS rigs have mag mount external antennas which help in getting the > signal out. You CAN use an external antenna, it just has to be factory > attached and non-removeable so you can't boost your signal by futzing > with the antenna gain. Why this band is so restricted, antenna-wise, > with such a low wattage is beyond me. > In NZ, PRS/FRSs can be had with external antennas which can be mounted anywhere on the rig. There is no restriction as such. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:21:17 +1200, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote: > I was worried about lack of metal >roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better >off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close >proximity) or in the back? > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right rear of the tub. I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:21:17 +1200, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote: > I was worried about lack of metal >roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better >off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close >proximity) or in the back? > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right rear of the tub. I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:21:17 +1200, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote: > I was worried about lack of metal >roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better >off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close >proximity) or in the back? > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right rear of the tub. I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 17:21:17 +1200, "TW" <a t t w @ w a v e . c o . n
z> wrote: > I was worried about lack of metal >roof and what it would do to the reception for a CB. On a TJ, am I better >off installing the antenna in the front (thus all metal hood in close >proximity) or in the back? > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right rear of the tub. I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. -- Old Crow '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl' '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1 TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51 |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jd8i705ce0i2ef8ff8j313t1svkctduv09@4ax.com... > > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 > "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. > It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal > strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right > rear of the tub. Interesting idea. I have seen some drivers of other makes having the antenna mounted on a lip coming off the spare tyre, but from the back (the space between the rare glass and the spare tyre mount). However, they usually have metal roofs. I don't, as such I have no idea about its effectiveness for signal strength. > I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute > every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 > miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back > unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. > I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in > the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. > Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! > > Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I > could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. > -- What about smoke flares or an emergency beacon? Just kidding, matches or a safety lighter is a good idea, because if stranded overnight then you can keep yourself warm by lighting a small fire. I think I'll go out and buy one tomorrow. I've got a lot of things in my tool kit that I now carry, but nothing to start a fire. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jd8i705ce0i2ef8ff8j313t1svkctduv09@4ax.com... > > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 > "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. > It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal > strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right > rear of the tub. Interesting idea. I have seen some drivers of other makes having the antenna mounted on a lip coming off the spare tyre, but from the back (the space between the rare glass and the spare tyre mount). However, they usually have metal roofs. I don't, as such I have no idea about its effectiveness for signal strength. > I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute > every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 > miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back > unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. > I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in > the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. > Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! > > Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I > could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. > -- What about smoke flares or an emergency beacon? Just kidding, matches or a safety lighter is a good idea, because if stranded overnight then you can keep yourself warm by lighting a small fire. I think I'll go out and buy one tomorrow. I've got a lot of things in my tool kit that I now carry, but nothing to start a fire. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jd8i705ce0i2ef8ff8j313t1svkctduv09@4ax.com... > > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 > "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. > It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal > strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right > rear of the tub. Interesting idea. I have seen some drivers of other makes having the antenna mounted on a lip coming off the spare tyre, but from the back (the space between the rare glass and the spare tyre mount). However, they usually have metal roofs. I don't, as such I have no idea about its effectiveness for signal strength. > I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute > every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 > miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back > unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. > I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in > the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. > Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! > > Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I > could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. > -- What about smoke flares or an emergency beacon? Just kidding, matches or a safety lighter is a good idea, because if stranded overnight then you can keep yourself warm by lighting a small fire. I think I'll go out and buy one tomorrow. I've got a lot of things in my tool kit that I now carry, but nothing to start a fire. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jd8i705ce0i2ef8ff8j313t1svkctduv09@4ax.com... > > I'm running a CB(Radio Shack's cheapest, thank you<g>) with a K-40 > "trunk lip" style mount base load antenna. > It's in a YJ, and the antenna is mounted to an extra piece of metal > strap that has been added to the spare tire travel stop on the right > rear of the tub. Interesting idea. I have seen some drivers of other makes having the antenna mounted on a lip coming off the spare tyre, but from the back (the space between the rare glass and the spare tyre mount). However, they usually have metal roofs. I don't, as such I have no idea about its effectiveness for signal strength. > I use the radio to listen/talk to truckers on my 90 minute commute > every day. I find the *useable* range with this setup to be around 4 > miles. I can hear further than that, but it won't make the trip back > unless the atmosphere is pretty quiet. > I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in > the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too. > Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics! > > Oh, yeah, I always carry matches in my emergency kit... I guess I > could use smoke signals, too, if I had to. > -- What about smoke flares or an emergency beacon? Just kidding, matches or a safety lighter is a good idea, because if stranded overnight then you can keep yourself warm by lighting a small fire. I think I'll go out and buy one tomorrow. I've got a lot of things in my tool kit that I now carry, but nothing to start a fire. TW |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW
Are you going to keep asking the same question over and over in a different way until somebody agrees with you and tells you to buy the prs system? Buy both. CBs can be bought at most garage sales for less than $20 and their range is superior to the other system. But if you want a handi-talky get it. |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW
Are you going to keep asking the same question over and over in a different way until somebody agrees with you and tells you to buy the prs system? Buy both. CBs can be bought at most garage sales for less than $20 and their range is superior to the other system. But if you want a handi-talky get it. |
Re: CB Radio or PRS
TW
Are you going to keep asking the same question over and over in a different way until somebody agrees with you and tells you to buy the prs system? Buy both. CBs can be bought at most garage sales for less than $20 and their range is superior to the other system. But if you want a handi-talky get it. |
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